All they have to say is sorry, no news today. That's it. When they post a Tweet on Friday to say be up to date at the end of the weekend, and historically they release news immediately after that then yeah, people have a right to feel entitled to at least an update as to when we will hear something. Not entitled to news but entitled to at least an update when they know people are begging for information and refreshing for hours. Of course no one is pointing a gun at people's heads and forcing them to do that but I completely understand that the band means a ton to some of you and you don't want to risk missing tickets going on sale immediately or something. The 10C/Management have that little amount of respect for the fans that they cause people to do that?
It's an endless cycle around here. The same thing happens all of the time. They either tease us with something or newsbreaks elsewhere....then people ask questions/complain.....then people are yelled at for bitching and feeling entitled....then arguments ensue and people are unhappy....i chime in and complain ....then they finally release the news or just ignore it completely and never say a word about it. Remember just a few short weeks ago when people shelled out money for the LOTL box set as a pre-order and the 10 Club wouldn't so much as say it's real or we are working on it? This has been going on for so long and part of me feels as though they love doing this to the members. I have fiercely defended the 10 Club and the mods the past year regarding them not being allowed to release news and I stand by that. But there is zero reason they can't chime in at some point and give some sort of update but they can lock a thread because it's "rude" to discuss that not everyone appreciates the music of Brad. Doing this to your fans/customers isn't rude?
And to those who get mad that people complain and feel entitled, I understand you feel that way and your mind won't be changed. You don't have to respond to this. I'm not looking to start an argument with you and I respect your opinion on the matter. Please respect the opinion of those who feel differently. Can't we all just get along? :thumbup:
Australian/NZ Big Day Out Festival second lineup announcement in 3 hours on the Fasterlouder.com website. Coincidence? Wouldn't it be hilarious if the tweet has nothing to do with Australia...
BDO, Man I hope not, that has turned into the biggest pile of crap over the years (or my 41 years have finally caught up with me). I'm hoping for a Ed at a venue like this:
And it the middle of some of Australia's best wine, surf and beaches. And only a few mins from my place...
Can we all crash?
No .. Ed's coming to Byron Bay which is not far from my place.
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Again...where on Earth have we concluded that it is Australia? I can see the "one man stands alone" reference meaning a solo tour, but Australia? Oz = Australia? That still doesn't answer the question as to why they would send a message to all 10c members when the impending announcement truly impacts a fraction of 10c members (and PJ fans in general). Think of it: I would definitely travel overseas to see PJ; its definitely doubtful that I would do the same to see Ed solo (as much as I love Ed). That's probably true for most PJ/Ed fans.
It just makes no sense that a message directed to all 10c members, implying a big announcement (that most 10c members anticipate will impact them directly) would be about a tour in Australia...which if that is indeed the announcement, would impact only a small percentage of PJ/Ed fans. Doesn't add up...
You haven't been here long have you? They've done this kind of thing a bunch of times before. They certainly want to give people a heads up that something's in the works. Once they make the announcement of a tour it's too late to renew/join so they send a tweet early hinting at what's to come and giving a membership deadline. They know that people will (try to) figure out what it means and some may jump to the wrong conclusions. In fact, if you want you can ignore the tweet and wait for the official anouncement but if you're not current you'll miss out.
Again...where on Earth do we conclude that any impending announcement has to do with AUSTRALIA? Oz = Australia? I'm familiar with the tweets and heads-up they usually give about memberships etc...that's not what's confusing me. What's confusing me is how everyone is so convinced that it has
anything to do with Australia. Nowhere in the tweet did it say the word "Oz" and in any event, the reference could be to the scarecrow and the whole "if I only had a brain [I would've made sure my membership was current]" (as has been suggested). And if we're all scrupulously analyzing the tweet for clues, why has no one focused on what "WTH?" means? I'm not really up on my text lingo, but I'm familiar with the text phrase "WTF?", but I've never heard someone use the phrase "WTH?" Couldn't "WTH" mean something?
Let's be truly analytical about this. What do we know (not what we speculate or assume):
1) they've done this type of thing before and it usually precedes an announcement of some sort
2) whatever "news" is coming is likely to impact 10c members (i.e. the mention of membership dates)
We can speculate as to what the message means or will be, but the only thing certain is that 10c members are put on notice that their memberships should be current if they want to partake in whatever is coming. It doesn't make much sense that the message is "10c members get your memberships current because we're announcing something that will impact about a tenth of you."
As I said before, I think there's just as much a case for a broader announcement that will directly impact or interest all 10c members than there is one for just Aussie members. But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate. So if we've determined that there is an announcement and the announcement is about a tour and it is going to be in Australia, then I'm not surprised that some of us have spent over 140+ pages trying to prove that our conclusion is correct. But frankly, I'd say there's not a lot to back that conclusion up, other than our own personal hopes and wishes.
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I'm not seeing the big deal. They said for everybody to make sure they had their memberships up to date because something was coming... they didn't say when the announcement would be. We need to take into account all of the other factors that may be playing a role. Things in this business can change so abruptly. For all we know, they may have had us update our memberships because the final plan could've been nailed down as early as Monday, though it could be a little later... but if it came later and somebody wasn't given enough time or notice, we'd be hearing about it then too. Maybe it's in their control, maybe it's not. I'm not sure I understand how people can sit by a website all day based off of pure speculation and self-interpretations. If it's for something rare out of the Goods section and I miss out, life goes on. If it's tickets, I agree, sale dates are often short notice but I don't recall ever seeing an announcement that set us up to have to buy immediately at the time of the announcement or we're screwed.
To each their own, but I'm going to just check in here and there throughout the day. Staying on the website all day long for something that may or may not appeal to me just isn't for me. Good luck to all.
Again...where on Earth have we concluded that it is Australia? I can see the "one man stands alone" reference meaning a solo tour, but Australia? Oz = Australia? That still doesn't answer the question as to why they would send a message to all 10c members when the impending announcement truly impacts a fraction of 10c members (and PJ fans in general). Think of it: I would definitely travel overseas to see PJ; its definitely doubtful that I would do the same to see Ed solo (as much as I love Ed). That's probably true for most PJ/Ed fans.
It just makes no sense that a message directed to all 10c members, implying a big announcement (that most 10c members anticipate will impact them directly) would be about a tour in Australia...which if that is indeed the announcement, would impact only a small percentage of PJ/Ed fans. Doesn't add up...
You haven't been here long have you? They've done this kind of thing a bunch of times before. They certainly want to give people a heads up that something's in the works. Once they make the announcement of a tour it's too late to renew/join so they send a tweet early hinting at what's to come and giving a membership deadline. They know that people will (try to) figure out what it means and some may jump to the wrong conclusions. In fact, if you want you can ignore the tweet and wait for the official anouncement but if you're not current you'll miss out.
Again...where on Earth do we conclude that any impending announcement has to do with AUSTRALIA? Oz = Australia? I'm familiar with the tweets and heads-up they usually give about memberships etc...that's not what's confusing me. What's confusing me is how everyone is so convinced that it has
anything to do with Australia. Nowhere in the tweet did it say the word "Oz" and in any event, the reference could be to the scarecrow and the whole "if I only had a brain [I would've made sure my membership was current]" (as has been suggested). And if we're all scrupulously analyzing the tweet for clues, why has no one focused on what "WTH?" means? I'm not really up on my text lingo, but I'm familiar with the text phrase "WTF?", but I've never heard someone use the phrase "WTH?" Couldn't "WTH" mean something?
Let's be truly analytical about this. What do we know (not what we speculate or assume):
1) they've done this type of thing before and it usually precedes an announcement of some sort
2) whatever "news" is coming is likely to impact 10c members (i.e. the mention of membership dates)
We can speculate as to what the message means or will be, but the only thing certain is that 10c members are put on notice that their memberships should be current if they want to partake in whatever is coming. It doesn't make much sense that the message is "10c members get your memberships current because we're announcing something that will impact about a tenth of you."
As I said before, I think there's just as much a case for a broader announcement that will directly impact or interest all 10c members than there is one for just Aussie members. But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate. So if we've determined that there is an announcement and the announcement is about a tour and it is going to be in Australia, then I'm not surprised that some of us have spent over 140+ pages trying to prove that our conclusion is correct. But frankly, I'd say there's not a lot to back that conclusion up, other than our own personal hopes and wishes.
Right, here's what I think on this. We all want to get our memberships in order and we should have done by now unless we are complete imbeciles. There are likely to be a host of tour dates announced in the coming months, and there will be cut off dates (short term ones). The first cut off date for the looming announcement could well apply to Australia only (Oz), and the tickets will be limited to members current before Monday (See tweet). It may also apply to other regions, and the tweet may of course be nothing to do with Oz, but it could mean 'Oz first'. The reason we strongly believe it is a tour announcement is that nobody can remember a time when a tweet saying membership up to date wasn't about a tour announcement. The address thing is probably 'Local residents only', as registered by Monday.
Make sense?
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But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate.
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In a totally different context .... but still, exactly what I was discussing earlier on today. Damn.
But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate.
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In a totally different context .... but still, exactly what I was discussing earlier on today. Damn.
Yeah it's called pattern thinking based on previously observed patterns. aka 'experience'
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so many people are saying that we are all reading too much in to this 'oz' thing but as an Aussie I can tell you that it is DESPERATION!! being sooo far away from everywhere else means we don't always get shows that we want (and before anyone gets cranky I KNOW it is the same or worse for some other countries!) I personally didn't think we would EVER get a solo EV tour. so if it IS - I am sooooo damn excited!
so many people are saying that we are all reading too much in to this 'oz' thing but as an Aussie I can tell you that it is DESPERATION!! being sooo far away from everywhere else means we don't always get shows that we want (and before anyone gets cranky I KNOW it is the same or worse for some other countries!) I personally didn't think we would EVER get a solo EV tour. so if it IS - I am sooooo damn excited!
Exactly. Bring it on I say.
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Australian/NZ Big Day Out Festival second lineup announcement in 3 hours on the Fasterlouder.com website. Coincidence? Wouldn't it be hilarious if the tweet has nothing to do with Australia...
BDO, Man I hope not, that has turned into the biggest pile of crap over the years (or my 41 years have finally caught up with me). I'm hoping for a Ed at a venue like this:
Please not BDO...Paul speaks the truth....Big pile of steamy crap....would rather shave my back whilst chewing on tinfoil than do another BDO...It won't be BDO... :roll:
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so many people are saying that we are all reading too much in to this 'oz' thing but as an Aussie I can tell you that it is DESPERATION!! being sooo far away from everywhere else means we don't always get shows that we want (and before anyone gets cranky I KNOW it is the same or worse for some other countries!) I personally didn't think we would EVER get a solo EV tour. so if it IS - I am sooooo damn excited!
I don't think it's too much of a quantum leap to read two obvious references to the Wizard of Oz as referring to 'Oz', and 'One man stands alone' as implying a solo tour
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He will not play BDO, and Bluesfest i think is out of the question as well. Too late.
Definitely not Big Day Out.. that would totally be the wrong environment for an EV solo show.
Why too late for Bluesfest? It's not until April next year and there is still a second artist announcement to come. And Ben is playing next year.
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Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
I think you completely underestimate Australia's love for PJ! believe me Aussie Jammers are in mass!
(actually just came here to see if there are any news... gonna go to bed now!
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so many people are saying that we are all reading too much in to this 'oz' thing but as an Aussie I can tell you that it is DESPERATION!! being sooo far away from everywhere else means we don't always get shows that we want (and before anyone gets cranky I KNOW it is the same or worse for some other countries!) I personally didn't think we would EVER get a solo EV tour. so if it IS - I am sooooo damn excited!
I don't think it's too much of a quantum leap to read two obvious references to the Wizard of Oz as referring to 'Oz', and 'One man stands alone' as implying a solo tour
I don't think it is eithre - but there are MANY doubters it seems!
But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate.
:shock:
In a totally different context .... but still, exactly what I was discussing earlier on today. Damn.
Yeah it's called pattern thinking based on previously observed patterns. aka 'experience'
It started off like this : should I assess the facts and try and figure out the truth or should I prove my point ? We quarreled over this . :roll: As it turns out, experience may have been misleading today...
Nooo....there's no way it will be BDO....surely....
I'll eat dog food for a week if EV does a solo show at the Big Day Out festival.
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Soooo ... I spent the whole day at work without peeking at this page at any moment and nothing has happened?? I am in a way disappointed, I must say. This whole thing has me kept up all monday and there is nothing to be sad or happy about by now? What's up with you, tenclub? Are you just teasing people? I am going to bed for a second time without anything new to know ...
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I appreciate what the 10c does for fan club members..But, we all know it could be ran much more efficentently...
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No .. Ed's coming to Byron Bay which is not far from my place.
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Again...where on Earth do we conclude that any impending announcement has to do with AUSTRALIA? Oz = Australia? I'm familiar with the tweets and heads-up they usually give about memberships etc...that's not what's confusing me. What's confusing me is how everyone is so convinced that it has
anything to do with Australia. Nowhere in the tweet did it say the word "Oz" and in any event, the reference could be to the scarecrow and the whole "if I only had a brain [I would've made sure my membership was current]" (as has been suggested). And if we're all scrupulously analyzing the tweet for clues, why has no one focused on what "WTH?" means? I'm not really up on my text lingo, but I'm familiar with the text phrase "WTF?", but I've never heard someone use the phrase "WTH?" Couldn't "WTH" mean something?
Let's be truly analytical about this. What do we know (not what we speculate or assume):
1) they've done this type of thing before and it usually precedes an announcement of some sort
2) whatever "news" is coming is likely to impact 10c members (i.e. the mention of membership dates)
We can speculate as to what the message means or will be, but the only thing certain is that 10c members are put on notice that their memberships should be current if they want to partake in whatever is coming. It doesn't make much sense that the message is "10c members get your memberships current because we're announcing something that will impact about a tenth of you."
As I said before, I think there's just as much a case for a broader announcement that will directly impact or interest all 10c members than there is one for just Aussie members. But this is classic pattern thinking: most people predetermine their conclusions about a given situation, attach to a thought or a conclusion absent conscious analysis, and then spend the rest of their time trying to prove that said conclusion is true, rather than objectively assessing the situation. That's not a bad thing; it just is the way people operate. So if we've determined that there is an announcement and the announcement is about a tour and it is going to be in Australia, then I'm not surprised that some of us have spent over 140+ pages trying to prove that our conclusion is correct. But frankly, I'd say there's not a lot to back that conclusion up, other than our own personal hopes and wishes.
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To each their own, but I'm going to just check in here and there throughout the day. Staying on the website all day long for something that may or may not appeal to me just isn't for me. Good luck to all.
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Right, here's what I think on this. We all want to get our memberships in order and we should have done by now unless we are complete imbeciles. There are likely to be a host of tour dates announced in the coming months, and there will be cut off dates (short term ones). The first cut off date for the looming announcement could well apply to Australia only (Oz), and the tickets will be limited to members current before Monday (See tweet). It may also apply to other regions, and the tweet may of course be nothing to do with Oz, but it could mean 'Oz first'. The reason we strongly believe it is a tour announcement is that nobody can remember a time when a tweet saying membership up to date wasn't about a tour announcement. The address thing is probably 'Local residents only', as registered by Monday.
Make sense?
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In a totally different context .... but still, exactly what I was discussing earlier on today. Damn.
Yeah it's called pattern thinking based on previously observed patterns. aka 'experience'
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Exactly. Bring it on I say.
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I don't think it's too much of a quantum leap to read two obvious references to the Wizard of Oz as referring to 'Oz', and 'One man stands alone' as implying a solo tour
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Definitely not Big Day Out.. that would totally be the wrong environment for an EV solo show.
Why too late for Bluesfest? It's not until April next year and there is still a second artist announcement to come. And Ben is playing next year.
(actually just came here to see if there are any news... gonna go to bed now!
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It started off like this : should I assess the facts and try and figure out the truth or should I prove my point ? We quarreled over this . :roll: As it turns out, experience may have been misleading today...
I'll eat dog food for a week if EV does a solo show at the Big Day Out festival.
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