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whygohome

Byrnzie wrote:

whygohome wrote:

OntheEdge's comments are so typical of the regurgitating, misinformed, uneducated citizenry that will stop at nothing to spread the propaganda of hate and idiocy.

I just cannot believe that there are people who are so incredibly warped in this country. Oh wait, yes I can. Bye, bye America, your precious citizens have destroyed your legacy. Greed, stupidity, entitlement, laziness - intellectual and physical (obesity rate at 30% you fat fucks!), corporate slavery, big oil, materialism, consumerism, TV obsessions, celebrity worship, stagnation, stubborn, tired philosophies, have all dismantled the integrity and intelligence in this country.

At least you still have beer, and some good music.

Very true. Just picked up a Saranac Winter Sampler 12 pack. Some decent brews. Got a sixer of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, as well. So, I can't complain. I'm still a little upset about the state of American Society though.

Oh yeah. I get to listen to a bunch of Pearl Jam, Radiohead, Pink Floyd, AIC, Soundgarden, and Dylan. Not too bad.

whygohome

gabers wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

gabers wrote:

Couldn't have said it better myself. The crock of shit bit. If anyone with a scrap of brains can't see what an absolute disaster the George W. Bush presidency was then I question they deserve the right to vote.

That was a brilliant response there gabbers....You must be a politician :shock:

Godfather.

Sometimes Godfather, the truth hurts. The man was a walking clusterfuck that couldn't piece together a coherent statement - Palin without tits, as it were. He really couldn't do anything right. Unless you were rich and didn't have any family in the military I guess.

"Palin without tits." Can I use that?
Hilarious.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

whygohome wrote:

"Palin without tits." Can I use that?
Hilarious.

gabers

whygohome wrote:

gabers wrote:

Sometimes Godfather, the truth hurts. The man was a walking clusterfuck that couldn't piece together a coherent statement - Palin without tits, as it were. He really couldn't do anything right. Unless you were rich and didn't have any family in the military I guess.

"Palin without tits." Can I use that?
Hilarious.

Glad to put a smile on some faces in the Moving Train.

It's a bastardization of referring to Palin as "Bush with tits". Pretty sure that was a Bill Maher quote. Love ya Bill.

wolfamongwolves

Godfather. wrote:

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

Godfather.

wolfamongwolves wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

I don't know if any of it makes any sense,I only posted it to make a point that there are lots of opinions out there and to people that believe differently than otheres their opinion is just as legit as anybody elses to them and they will argue it to the end...wrong or right, I don't know why ?

Godfather.

polaris_x

Godfather. wrote:

I don't know if any of it makes any sense,I only posted it to make a point that there are lots of opinions out there and to people that believe differently than otheres their opinion is just as legit as anybody elses to them and they will argue it to the end...wrong or right, I don't know why ?

Godfather.

another book you might want to read is Trust Us, We're Experts

http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Us-Were-Exp ... 041&sr=8-1

it's about the use of PR and Lobbyists to sway public opinion ...

yes, there are different opinions on things but the reality is that big corporations are willing to pay PR firms to launch aggressive campaigns that use myths, lies and innuendo to sway public opinion ... so, often when you get articles written like the one you posted - it often reeks of lies and misconceptions ...

it's one thing when someone objectively posts a bunch of crap but it's far more insidious when its a carefully crafted piece funded by special interests knowing that they can reach a specific target audience ...

AllNiteThing

Godfather. wrote:

wolfamongwolves wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

I don't know if any of it makes any sense,I only posted it to make a point that there are lots of opinions out there and to people that believe differently than otheres their opinion is just as legit as anybody elses to them and they will argue it to the end...wrong or right, I don't know why ?

Godfather.

Yes, there are lots of opinions out there. There are lots of uneducated opinions out there and there are a lot of mentally unbalanced people out there. Why use that as your backup? Yikes. I'd be embarrassed.

Godfather.

AllNiteThing,there are all kinds of different people out there is there something that makes you better than them ? thinking so would be more of an embarrassment in my opinion.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

yea there have been a few....

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

But, Barack Obama is failing. Failing big. Failing fast. And failing everywhere: foreign policy, domestic initiatives, and most importantly, in forging connections with the American people. The incomparable Dorothy Rabinowitz in the Wall Street Journal put her finger on it: He is failing because he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them.

All I can say on the matter is that when a person voices their opinion and says things like this about the president:
"...he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them."

I start to lose the ability to take them seriously.

I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but what this author said here is... well, :roll: :crazy:

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

yea there have been a few....

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

But, Barack Obama is failing. Failing big. Failing fast. And failing everywhere: foreign policy, domestic initiatives, and most importantly, in forging connections with the American people. The incomparable Dorothy Rabinowitz in the Wall Street Journal put her finger on it: He is failing because he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them.

All I can say on the matter is that when a person voices their opinion and says things like this about the president:
"...he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them."

I start to lose the ability to take them seriously.

I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but what this author said here is... well, :roll: :crazy:

now that you mention it it does read like "where the buffalo roam" by Hunter S Thompson.

Godfather.

wolfamongwolves

Godfather. wrote:

I don't know if any of it makes any sense,I only posted it to make a point that there are lots of opinions out there and to people that believe differently than otheres their opinion is just as legit as anybody elses to them and they will argue it to the end...wrong or right, I don't know why ?

Godfather.

I'm not criticising you for posting it. Yes, there are plenty of differing opinions out there. All I'm saying is that i find this one so bizarre. I don't undertand where the writer's ideas are coming from.

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

now that you mention it it does read like "where the buffalo roam" by Hunter S Thompson.

Godfather.

'Where the Buffalo Roam' wasn't by Hunter S. Thompson. It was a movie. Hunter S. Thompson was a writer and journalist, not a movie driector, or an actor.

And despite this, there's still absolutely no comparison between that movie and that article you posted above.

AllNiteThing

Godfather. wrote:

AllNiteThing,there are all kinds of different people out there is there something that makes you better than them ? thinking so would be more of an embarrassment in my opinion.

Godfather.

Who said anything about thinking you are better than someone else?! That makes no sense whatsoever.

My point is that you are backing up your points with someone who is using distorted/falsified 'facts' and is clearly mentally ill. It's not a judgement, just an observation. I can't see how someone would feel comfortable backing their opinion up with something that is so clearly biased and baseless. I wouldn't say I'm a better 'person', but my opinions are certainly much more grounded in reality and fact.

AllNiteThing

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

now that you mention it it does read like "where the buffalo roam" by Hunter S Thompson.

Godfather.

'Where the Buffalo Roam' wasn't by Hunter S. Thompson. It was a movie. Hunter S. Thompson was a writer and journalist, not a movie driector, or an actor.

And despite this, there's still absolutely no comparison between that movie and that article you posted above.

There are a few bizarre people posting here. Coincidence they are all Bush apologists?

Byrnzie

AllNiteThing wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

now that you mention it it does read like "where the buffalo roam" by Hunter S Thompson.

Godfather.

'Where the Buffalo Roam' wasn't by Hunter S. Thompson. It was a movie. Hunter S. Thompson was a writer and journalist, not a movie driector, or an actor.

And despite this, there's still absolutely no comparison between that movie and that article you posted above.

There are a few bizarre people posting here. Coincidence they are all Bush apologists?

In all fairness, I think he was just pointing out that the article he posted was a bit 'wacky', and that this wackiness was somehow comparable to Bill Murray's performance in 'Where The Buffalo Roam'. It was just an analogy, albeit a pretty poor one.

Godfather.

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

now that you mention it it does read like "where the buffalo roam" by Hunter S Thompson.

Godfather.

'Where the Buffalo Roam' wasn't by Hunter S. Thompson. It was a movie. Hunter S. Thompson was a writer and journalist, not a movie driector, or an actor.

And despite this, there's still absolutely no comparison between that movie and that article you posted above.

Byrnzie this was all I could find, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081748/
I must admit I thought the book was HST work.

Godfather.

whygohome

wolfamongwolves wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

Obama's perceptions of the world are "out of touch" because he is not an uneducated, warmongering imperialist. How un-American!! Shame on you Barack!!

Godfather.

whygohome wrote:

wolfamongwolves wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Another Failed Presidency
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson.

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

Obama's perceptions of the world are "out of touch" because he is not an uneducated, warmongering imperialist. How un-American!! Shame on you Barack!!

all righty then....he's a warmonger he's just starting to learn,he'll get better at it just give him time.

Godfather.

whygohome

Godfather. wrote:

whygohome wrote:

wolfamongwolves wrote:

I know it was on page 1, but I've just gotten around to reading that article. There was a line towards the end that struck me...

"....His [Obama's] descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience..."

The reason it struck me is that, the whole way through the article, before I reached that line, I found myself thinking of the writer, "....His descriptions of Obama don't make sense and don't correspond with my experience..."

Come to think of it, the same goes for the frankly bizarre characterisation of Bush.

"George Bush Jr didn't fail so much as he was perceived to have been too much of a patrician while being uncomfortable with his more conservative allies... [his] potential was squashed by his own compromise of conservative principles... "

That's it?! I think even the most rudimentary understanding of the Bush presidency is enough to illustrate how far off the mark that is. I don't thinkanyone on either side could seriously say his main problem was being seen to be patrician!

The author of this article is almost comically out of touch. Even if I try to look at this objectively, this article bears no discernable or meaningful relationship to reality from what I can see.


It's not so much that it's bad, or even that it's partisan & I disagree with it.
It's just... well... plain weird. :?

Obama's perceptions of the world are "out of touch" because he is not an uneducated, warmongering imperialist. How un-American!! Shame on you Barack!!

all righty then....he's a warmonger he's just starting to learn,he'll get better at it just give him time.

Godfather.

But don't you think that if it were 100% up to him he would withdraw all troops? Obviously, as we all know, the backlash from the right, the military, and possibly some international leaders (?), would be like nothing we have seen in decades. Obama has learned that what he wants to do is secondary to what he will be allowed to do - allowed by Big Oil, Corporate America, the Right, etc.