Can Kanye please shutup...
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Kanye West is pissed. Not, this time, at George Bush, but at Today Show host Matt Lauer, who interviewed the star Wednesday morning. In the interview, Kanye backpedals on his notorious 2005 statement that Bush "doesn't care about black people," saying he "didn't have the grounds" to call Bush racist after Hurricane Katrina, and the former president said he appreciates West's sentiment. (Bush appeared live on the show, while West's interview was pre-recorded.)
Watch: Kanye West's Surprise Visit to Rolling Stone
Asked for his reaction to West's comment, Bush says (mispronouncing Kanye's name twice): "I appreciate that. It wasn't just 'Conway' West who was talking like that during Katrina. I cited him as an example [in my new book, Decision Points], I cited others as an example as well, and I appreciate that."
Asked if the statement allows him to forgive West, Bush — who called Kanye's comments the low point of his presidency — said, "Absolutely, of course it does. I'm not a hater, I didn't hate 'Conway' West. But I was talking about an environment in which people were willing to say things that hurt. Nobody wants to be called a racist if in your heart you believe in equality of race."
While Kanye's appearance on the show was brief, he fired off a series of angry tweets after the interview late Tuesday, saying that he did not appreciate the way he was treated by Lauer.
Read Rob Sheffield's Five-Star Review of Kanye's New Album
"Man I'm heading to Abu Dhabi finna go to Ferrari Land YESSSS!!! ....but before I take off let me tell you how they did me at the Today show," West tweeted. "I went up there to express how I was empathetic to Bush because I labeled him a racist and years later I got labeled as a racist. While I was trying to give the interview they started playing the 'MTV' under me with audio!!!!!!! I don't mess with Matt Lauer or the Today Show ... and that's a very nice way for me to put it! HE TRIED TO FORCE MY ANSWERS. IT WAS VERY BRUTAL AND I CAME THERE WITH ONLY POSITIVE INTENT. I feel very alone very used very tortured very forced very misunderstood very hollow very very misused. I don't trust anyone but myself! Everyone has an agenda. I don't do press anymore. I can't be everything to everybody anymore. I can't be everybody's hero and villain savior and sinner Christian and anti Christ!"
He continued: "I can't take anymore advice. I create, I'm creative, I have a good heart, everyone will see and understand one day. Everything sounds like noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING SOUNDS LIKE NOISE!!!!!!! I don't trust anyone! Very judged very scrutinized very criticized! I want everyone to know I have lows all the time but I make it through them! Yo I really wonder if Matt Lauer thought that shit was cool to play the 'MTV' clip while I was speaking about Bush? He played clips of Bush and asked me to look at his face while I was trying to talk to him. I wish Michael Jackson had twitter!!!!!! Maybe Mike could have explained how the media tried to set him up!!! It's all a fucking set up!!!! This is rock and roll life my people... you can't stop the truth you can't stop the music and I have to be strong or 'they' win!!!! . Sometimes it's not simple, some days it's not easy... I just want to create. I love you guys, thanks for the support!"
Will this guy ever shutup? I don't even understand what the hell he is saying here. I'm just really sick of this act from him, enough already. I never saw Kanye as the genius lots of people (including himself) see him as. Sure, his first two albums were good hip-hop albums, and he kind of swayed hip-hop away from gangster rap, but I've grown so tired of his act I hate seeing or hearing him anywhere.
Kanye West is pissed. Not, this time, at George Bush, but at Today Show host Matt Lauer, who interviewed the star Wednesday morning. In the interview, Kanye backpedals on his notorious 2005 statement that Bush "doesn't care about black people," saying he "didn't have the grounds" to call Bush racist after Hurricane Katrina, and the former president said he appreciates West's sentiment. (Bush appeared live on the show, while West's interview was pre-recorded.)
Watch: Kanye West's Surprise Visit to Rolling Stone
Asked for his reaction to West's comment, Bush says (mispronouncing Kanye's name twice): "I appreciate that. It wasn't just 'Conway' West who was talking like that during Katrina. I cited him as an example [in my new book, Decision Points], I cited others as an example as well, and I appreciate that."
Asked if the statement allows him to forgive West, Bush — who called Kanye's comments the low point of his presidency — said, "Absolutely, of course it does. I'm not a hater, I didn't hate 'Conway' West. But I was talking about an environment in which people were willing to say things that hurt. Nobody wants to be called a racist if in your heart you believe in equality of race."
While Kanye's appearance on the show was brief, he fired off a series of angry tweets after the interview late Tuesday, saying that he did not appreciate the way he was treated by Lauer.
Read Rob Sheffield's Five-Star Review of Kanye's New Album
"Man I'm heading to Abu Dhabi finna go to Ferrari Land YESSSS!!! ....but before I take off let me tell you how they did me at the Today show," West tweeted. "I went up there to express how I was empathetic to Bush because I labeled him a racist and years later I got labeled as a racist. While I was trying to give the interview they started playing the 'MTV' under me with audio!!!!!!! I don't mess with Matt Lauer or the Today Show ... and that's a very nice way for me to put it! HE TRIED TO FORCE MY ANSWERS. IT WAS VERY BRUTAL AND I CAME THERE WITH ONLY POSITIVE INTENT. I feel very alone very used very tortured very forced very misunderstood very hollow very very misused. I don't trust anyone but myself! Everyone has an agenda. I don't do press anymore. I can't be everything to everybody anymore. I can't be everybody's hero and villain savior and sinner Christian and anti Christ!"
He continued: "I can't take anymore advice. I create, I'm creative, I have a good heart, everyone will see and understand one day. Everything sounds like noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING SOUNDS LIKE NOISE!!!!!!! I don't trust anyone! Very judged very scrutinized very criticized! I want everyone to know I have lows all the time but I make it through them! Yo I really wonder if Matt Lauer thought that shit was cool to play the 'MTV' clip while I was speaking about Bush? He played clips of Bush and asked me to look at his face while I was trying to talk to him. I wish Michael Jackson had twitter!!!!!! Maybe Mike could have explained how the media tried to set him up!!! It's all a fucking set up!!!! This is rock and roll life my people... you can't stop the truth you can't stop the music and I have to be strong or 'they' win!!!! . Sometimes it's not simple, some days it's not easy... I just want to create. I love you guys, thanks for the support!"
Will this guy ever shutup? I don't even understand what the hell he is saying here. I'm just really sick of this act from him, enough already. I never saw Kanye as the genius lots of people (including himself) see him as. Sure, his first two albums were good hip-hop albums, and he kind of swayed hip-hop away from gangster rap, but I've grown so tired of his act I hate seeing or hearing him anywhere.
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Guy is a complete Jackass.
We know, We know, We know. You don't do press anymore. Then why do you never shut up??
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That's what I say whenever I hear one a Kanye West song on the radio
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Don't even get me started on his contribution to the destruction of art,music, and culture...
I say send the fucker on a one way shuttle to Mars...
Send him along with Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Courtney Love, John Mayer, and Glen Beck....That way nobody on earth would ever have to be subjected to the vomit inducing nonsense spewed from these shit farmers ever again.
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please
don't hold back
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
What kind of ethical or professionalism is exhibited by lauer in telling kanye to LOOK at Bush's face? I mean really? By even suggesting he do that, tleling kanye to do that, he is taking a side in the debate which he is free to do, but i dont think you should do that on the air.
Does Lauer tell other interviewees to LOOK at the face of other people? When he interviewed Bush a few days ago did he tell bush to look at the face of war widows who lost spouses in the wars? It was flat out unethical and unprofessional.
Kanye came on the show to move on. Thats clearly why he showed up. By even playing the clips, of the MTV incident, they are negating his point. Whats the use of Kanye telling people to move on if while he's doing that, they PLAY THE CLIP OF HIM ON MTV?
Kanye shouldnt have run on stage to interrupt taylor, but that whole thing was WAY overblown. Mos Def told kanye to leave the country. Really? All because he interupted someones speech at an award ceremony? REALLY?
I support Kanye. I wrote an e-mail to NBC demanding Lauer be fined.
Most unprofessional interview ive ever seen.
Lets move on people. Even Taylor forgives him. Whats the deal here?
I feel sorry for the guy. The taylor incident affected him more than we will ever know, its quite clear from the inerviews he's done since then, it truely changed him. So are we really gonna keep nailing this guy to the cross everytime his name is brought up.
Can we all learn a little from kanye's message and MOVE THE HELL ON!
Did he even really talk to bush about that? And if the answer is no, then isnt lauer deserving of WAY more anger than kanye
Lauer should be fired based on that alone
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People do insane things at award shows. ODB came onstage maybe drunk or high and interupted Shawn Colvin at the grammys and said "Wu tang is for the children". Did he get press for it? Yeah, but if he was alive today would he deserve to be grilled about it now? There was years between that incident and him passing away, he wasnt grilled on his actions.
Jarvis Cocker, is that his name, the lead singer of pulp or blur or something like that, protested Michael jackson getting an award because he felt he was a pedophile. is it brought up occasionally in interviews, yes, but do people focus on it completely when they think of him, no.
he interuppted a speech on MTV. Me thinks we have bigger issues at hand.
Are you suggesting to me for years kanye should have to endure the press demanding he account for the taylor incident and that it should continune to get ink and airtime?
kanye is egotastical. what else is new?
If someone interupting a speech on mtv is something that gets you THAT upset as to brand kanye a jerk or worse, well you got problems my friends
i feel sorry for kanye because the media uproar and outrage that came out of the incident was not balanced with the magnitude of the incident. This was a guy who came onstage as taylor was speaker, took the mic from her, and said he felt beyonce deserved the award and not taylor. thats it..thats all that happened. to contnually act like the guy is the devil personified over a year later, is beyond absurd, and it surprises me more people on here arent at least sympathetic to his plight post taylor swift.
forget your opinion of him in general, this incident alone, and the media response to it was outrageous. it didnt need to be covered to the extent that it was.
people act like he went on stage and undressed and did some lewd act or something. he went onstage and said someone else deserved the award. end of story. period.
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And IMO, he went on-stage and was a complete jackass. Come on, admit he was a jackass?
Are you Kanye's brother or something?
Why in the hell would you ever feel sorry for him? He made a choice to upstage someone and perform one of the most classless acts I've seen at an awards show, if not the most. As far as I'm concerned, he deserved everything he had coming for him.
Taylor will never get that moment back. Never. Why aren't we feeling sorry for her? A young kid who won her first MTV award (a big deal for someone in pop music), had it taken away by someone who for too long thought he was bigger than music, and bigger than any room he entered.
Put the pom-poms down and please stop downplaying what he did.
Are you Kanye's brother or something?
Why in the hell would you ever feel sorry for him? He made a choice to upstage someone and perform one of the most classless acts I've seen at an awards show, if not the most. As far as I'm concerned, he deserved everything he had coming for him.
Taylor will never get that moment back. Never. Why aren't we feeling sorry for her? A young kid who won her first MTV award (a big deal for someone in pop music), had it taken away by someone who for too long thought he was bigger than music, and bigger than any room he entered.
Put the pom-poms down and please stop downplaying what he did.[/quote]
so in the last year and change that has gone by since the incident, he hasnt recieved any negative press? You make it sound like he raped someone and has to pay or something. The incident was in september of 2009. is november of 2010 last time i checked. When is the statute of limitatons up on this one? Kanye apologized. I even heard he called taylor, and talked to her AND her mother. Taylor forgave him and wrote a song on her new album about him, where she seemed to say he did something wrong, but that it was a mistake and that she even sort of understands what he is gong through. So, what more can be done friend? if taylor forgives him and he's apoligized, what exactly can he do? He messed up at an awards show. The media uproar about it MORE than made up for it. With the president even calling Kanye a bad name.
I dont think I or anyone else downplayed what he did. He paid for it. I think from the sounds of it, he has had to deal with people who feel he did wrong, and dont just say so on a message board, they actually say it to him face to face, enough to warrant him feeling like he couldnt stay in america anymore.
Im not his cheerleader. If you can read at all I called him an egoist, but i also think the punishment should fit the crime. Calling taylor and apoligizing, and apoligizing to her mom Im sure were not easy things to do, and Im sure that was pretty incomfortable for kanye. But he did it, and taylor seems to feel it was a genuine apology.
Lil Mama came onstage during the Jay and Alicia Empire song and interupted their routine. Jay and Alicia were upset, and they talked about it in the press, but Lil Mamas actions didnt recieve the same amount of press. Why? Is Lil Mama's career now totally defined by her actions? And do you think Jay and Alicia sit up at night worrying about that night?
I live in a world where you cant erase your actions. I dont know of a way to turn back time, and have taylor swift get to give her speech uninterupted, and have kanye stay in his seat and not say anything, not go onstage. There is no way for us to alter what happened. It happened. The offender saw he did wrong, apoligized, and the wronged party accepted said apology and seemed to even feel sorry for him. What are we hoping for beyond that people? What can be done?
He made a mistake and was sharply and widely criticized, he made amends, he was forgiven and he tried to move on. I dont get the ongoing nature of this as I said. What about it smacks of not forgiving kanye and not letting him live his life without bringing up what happened?
People act dumb at award shows. They get drunk or get high, they act stupid. You ever seen an awards show on MTV? This was maybe the most watched awards show of the entire decade because of this incident. People make outrageous jokes and push the line.
Its one thing to tell me that taylor was still hurting from this incident, or if kanye didnt reach out after the fact.
I refuse to bash the guy just because everyone else does. And I refuse to bash him for something so minor and for something that is such a non issue.
What can kanye do to alleviate this incident? Apologize? Check. Apologize to victims mother? Check. See error of ways and publicly admit they made a mistake? Check. Get the apology recognied and accepted by the victim? Check.
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Just because he passed your little checklist there, doesn't mean that people have to like him. It's everyone's own prerogative to either like the guy or not, I don't care that he apologized. That's great, he's still a jackass.
I thought that before the Taylor incident after he bitched every freakin' year he didn't win an award at the VMA's. The Taylor incident just made him look more like an idiot.
And of course he got negative press, and as I said before, well deserved. I don't feel bad that the guy had to run away out of the country, no one forced him out of here. He did that himself.
And as for what else does the man have to do? Nothing. I don't think he owes me anything. I just think the guy is a grade A wanker.
How are you playing the race card when comparing Kanye's press versus Chris Browns? They're both black male artists, so is the media now picking and choosing when to be racist? Get real.
But you are right on by saying what Chris Brown did was much worse. It was much more disgusting, however the only thing I can think of as to why it wasn't covered the way it should have been is because it didn't occur in front of millions of viewers. People, still to this day, don't know what happened.
In terms of your explanation, maybe you're right. But just because it didn't happen on national TV doesn't mean we don't know what happened. We all saw the pictures; Chris Brown has admitted to it. It is not an ambiguous situation. Maybe the only issue is what she did to set him off. But really that's irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
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