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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Temple getting 6.5 to 7.5 on various sites vs. Nova tonight. Wow jump all over that. I would have thought it be around 4. Temple 81-68.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,362
    pjhawks wrote:
    Temple getting 6.5 to 7.5 on various sites vs. Nova tonight. Wow jump all over that. I would have thought it be around 4. Temple 81-68.

    I'd take 7 points, but no way we're winning by 13. Pavillion is a really tough place to play. 42 straight W's there for Nova (although they play all the really good Big East teams at the WTF Center). 9 1/2 more hours!

    Won't see you there Jeags??? If you make it, look for one of the 7 or 8 guys with a red shirt.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    I'd take 7 points, but no way we're winning by 13. Pavillion is a really tough place to play. 42 straight W's there for Nova (although they play all the really good Big East teams at the WTF Center). 9 1/2 more hours!

    Won't see you there Jeags??? If you make it, look for one of the 7 or 8 guys with a red shirt.

    i actually just turned down tickets. feel like shit and have a ton of stuff to do around the house. i'm pretty pissed, but whatever. gotta rest up for tomorrow night.

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is gonna be a great game. awesome final tuneup for nova heading into big east play. you guys definitely need fernandez to find his shot again in order to win. nova couldn't cover him last year. if nova plays up to their talent level i think they'll squeak it out. revenge game and being at the dupont is a definite advantage.

    i see a 5 point game either way. not the end of the world for either team who loses though. good luck!
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,362
    Here's Nova's slate so far this year:
    vs. Bucknell (W)
    vs. Marist (W)
    vs. Boston U (W)
    vs. Lafayette (W)
    vs. UCLA (W)
    at Tennessee (L)
    vs. St. Joe's (W)
    at Penn (W)
    at LaSalle (W)
    vs. Delaware (W)
    at Monmouth (W)

    And here's Temple:
    vs. Seton Hall (W)
    vs. Toledo (W)
    vs. Cal in Orlando (L)
    vs. Georgia in Orlando (W)
    vs. Texas A&M in Orlando (L)
    at Central Michigan (W)
    at Maryland (W)
    vs. Georgetown (W)
    vs. Akron (W)
    vs. N. Illinois (W)
    at Ohio (W)

    The schedule is obviously weakened by playing all those MAC teams, but stlil pretty good.
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    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,362
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    I'd take 7 points, but no way we're winning by 13. Pavillion is a really tough place to play. 42 straight W's there for Nova (although they play all the really good Big East teams at the WTF Center). 9 1/2 more hours!

    Won't see you there Jeags??? If you make it, look for one of the 7 or 8 guys with a red shirt.

    i actually just turned down tickets. feel like shit and have a ton of stuff to do around the house. i'm pretty pissed, but whatever. gotta rest up for tomorrow night.

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is gonna be a great game. awesome final tuneup for nova heading into big east play. you guys definitely need fernandez to find his shot again in order to win. nova couldn't cover him last year. if nova plays up to their talent level i think they'll squeak it out. revenge game and being at the dupont is a definite advantage.

    i see a 5 point game either way. not the end of the world for either team who loses though. good luck!

    Good luck to you as well! For some reason this isn't really a bitter rivalry (a la St. Joe's-Nova, or the old Temple-UMass). All time Nova leads 43-41.

    Hopefully someday the Owls play a Perfect Game and have inflated rankings for the next 25 years. 8-)
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    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • The Juggler
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    i actually just turned down tickets. feel like shit and have a ton of stuff to do around the house. i'm pretty pissed, but whatever. gotta rest up for tomorrow night.

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is gonna be a great game. awesome final tuneup for nova heading into big east play. you guys definitely need fernandez to find his shot again in order to win. nova couldn't cover him last year. if nova plays up to their talent level i think they'll squeak it out. revenge game and being at the dupont is a definite advantage.

    i see a 5 point game either way. not the end of the world for either team who loses though. good luck!

    Good luck to you as well! For some reason this isn't really a bitter rivalry (a la St. Joe's-Nova, or the old Temple-UMass). All time Nova leads 43-41.

    Hopefully someday the Owls play a Perfect Game and have inflated rankings for the next 25 years. 8-)

    i just read something where the all time record is disputed. nova says they lead 42-20. temple says its 43-41. :lol:
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    go Owls. And if I don't get a chance to come on tomorrow have a fun and safe New Years.
  • The Juggler
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    yo johnny do you ever read ken pomeroy's site? i love it. http://kenpom.com/

    he's got his own ratings system, strength of schedule, and a schedule predictor that's usually fairly accurate. incidentally he has nova ranked 13th and temple at 31 with nova winning by 7 tonight. who knows?

    but some really cool info/stats to look at there.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,362
    The Jeagler wrote:
    i just read something where the all time record is disputed. nova says they lead 42-20. temple says its 43-41. :lol:

    42-20? No fucking way. How do they come up with this? (isn't Nova the school that had ineligible players in the 70s?) It said 43-41 in the Inquirer this morning, and that sounds very reasonable considering the teams' histories.
    The Jeagler wrote:
    yo johnny do you ever read ken pomeroy's site? i love it. http://kenpom.com/

    he's got his own ratings system, strength of schedule, and a schedule predictor that's usually fairly accurate. incidentally he has nova ranked 13th and temple at 31 with nova winning by 7 tonight. who knows?

    but some really cool info/stats to look at there.

    I'll check it out.
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    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    my bad. i meant 42-40
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,362
    The Jeagler wrote:
    my bad. i meant 42-40

    I googled it and I thought it said 42-20 as well. Damn sleep deprivation. :lol:
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • booomm11
    booomm11 Posts: 865
    Corey Stokes leads Nova in scoring?? :o
    being so KiND.. tO LEt me RiDe!!!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    booomm11 wrote:
    Corey Stokes leads Nova in scoring?? :o


    the bayonne bomber! stokes is an assassin from beyond the arc :mrgreen:
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  • The Fixer
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    edited December 2010
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  • The Fixer
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    The Jeagler wrote:

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is terrible reasoning. vegas adjusts. most teams will end up around .500 vs the spread. it's a fact...basic law of averages

    I just got it at 5. bought it up to 5.5. fuck nova

    also, props to those towson tigers for taking out lasalle last night
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is terrible reasoning. vegas adjusts. most teams will end up around .500 vs the spread. it's a fact...basic law of averages

    I just got it at 5. bought it up to 5.5. fuck nova

    also, props to those towson tigers for taking out lasalle last night

    yeah vegas adjusts...over time. this is still december. conference play hasn't even started for most teams. a lot of the top 10-15 teams lines are inflated this time of the year. i thought you said you read millman's blog? ;) i think it's all about the sweat barometer. nova has the 4th worst margin of all top 25 teams. you're on the right side with this game. good value there especially buying the hook. well played.
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  • The Fixer
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    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    the line is 6-- still inflated due to nova's ranking though. temple's 7-3 vs the spread, nova is 3-4. so i'd definitely take temple if i wasn't a nova fan. that is a no brainer.

    this is terrible reasoning. vegas adjusts. most teams will end up around .500 vs the spread. it's a fact...basic law of averages

    I just got it at 5. bought it up to 5.5. fuck nova

    also, props to those towson tigers for taking out lasalle last night

    yeah vegas adjusts...over time. this is still december. conference play hasn't even started for most teams. a lot of the top 10-15 teams lines are inflated this time of the year. i thought you said you read millman's blog? ;) i think it's all about the sweat barometer. nova has the 4th worst margin of all top 25 teams. you're on the right side with this game. good value there especially buying the hook. well played.

    I do read that blog. that sweat barometer is garbage
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I don't know what's worse...corey fisher's jumper or listening to scott graham
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited December 2010
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    this is terrible reasoning. vegas adjusts. most teams will end up around .500 vs the spread. it's a fact...basic law of averages

    I just got it at 5. bought it up to 5.5. fuck nova

    also, props to those towson tigers for taking out lasalle last night

    yeah vegas adjusts...over time. this is still december. conference play hasn't even started for most teams. a lot of the top 10-15 teams lines are inflated this time of the year. i thought you said you read millman's blog? ;) i think it's all about the sweat barometer. nova has the 4th worst margin of all top 25 teams. you're on the right side with this game. good value there especially buying the hook. well played.

    I do read that blog. that sweat barometer is garbage

    certainly coming into play for anyone who bet on nova tonight....yet again.
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  • The Juggler
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    well apparently the rumors of villanova's demise (pj hawk, i'm looking in your direction ;) ) have been greatly exaggerated. :lol:

    seriously, that was an awesome game. it's what the big 5 is all about. and it played out pretty much like i expected.

    such a huge win for nova cuz it shows they have enough talent to win a big game even when fisher can't buy a bucket (imagine how good they will be when they're all on top of their games :shock: ). stokes has ice water in his veins...wayns is kyle lowry with a better jump shot...and MOUPHTAOU is the next hakeem the dream--only kidding. he is a beast in the making though. he gets better every game.

    johnny a--helluva game buddy. this will go down as a "good loss" for temple on selection sunday. so it helps both teams. dunphy and wright are fun to watch operate. like a chess match between those two. its so cool to have two big time college basketball programs to follow this winter.


    oh, and fixer covered---so everybody wins tonight! :thumbup:
    GO CATS!
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