You gotta love the tea party - woman gets her head stept on

satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
LEXINGTON, Kentucky — Supporters of a Republican U.S. Senate candidate wrestled a woman to the ground and one stepped on her head after she tried to confront the candidate in Kentucky.

The incident happened Monday night in Lexington right before a debate between Rand Paul and Democratic opponent Jack Conway.

Lauren Valle of liberal group MoveOn.org, told Louisville station WDRB she was trying to give Paul a fake award when his supporters took her to the ground.

"These supporters were not very nice to me and my message, which is the same as everyone else — I just wanted to get out here with a sign, but I got my head stepped on," Valle told a reporter from Louisville's Fox41, which posted footage of the incident.

The footage shows Valle's blonde wig being pulled off before she's pinned to ground. A man then puts his foot down on her head. Valle said the incident left her with "a bit of a headache."

A police watch commander said early Tuesday that she didn't know if any arrests were made.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it is only going to get worse as the campaign rhetoric builds...how do the rand paul supporters justify or defend this??

    i tried to find the video but have not been able to find it yet.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    it is only going to get worse as the campaign rhetoric builds...how do the rand paul supporters justify or defend this??

    i tried to find the video but have not been able to find it yet.

    video here:

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... hp?ref=fpa
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    it is only going to get worse as the campaign rhetoric builds...how do the rand paul supporters justify or defend this??

    i tried to find the video but have not been able to find it yet.


    I think that most supporters of his would look at this and on face value call the people idiots and say they do not represent the majority of his supporters

    I would definitely like to hear an explanation of why these jackoffs did this. when will people realize that not reacting is always better than overreacting
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    I saw nothing that said Tea Party.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    C'mon aerial we have gone over this allready anything Republican is Tea Party backed you know that :lol::lol:
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    aerial wrote:
    I saw nothing that said Tea Party.

    it doesn't have to say tea party, it said rand paul, who is supported, chiefly by the tea party, this is possibly the stupidest defense i have ever heard, is there anywhere i can nominate it for an award??
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    I'm sure this man is a fair representative of the Tea Party. Have fun with your session.
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    Jason P wrote:
    I'm sure this man is a fair representative of the Tea Party. Have fun with your session.
    it was not just one person, it was a group, outside the debate, supporting rand paul, it was people surronding rand paul that did it, its alot more than one person, it just shows the ignorance of the majority of the tea party
  • Does anyone actually need to see anything that says "Tea Party" to know that Rand Paul is primarily supported by them? And, after the types of rallies and venomous discourse provided by the Tea Party, does it surprise anyone that a member of said party would behave in such a manner?

    Let's not be naive. It doesn't have to be stamped on their foreheads for it to be true.
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    JimFields1 wrote:
    Does anyone actually need to see anything that says "Tea Party" to know that Rand Paul is primarily supported by them? And, after the types of rallies and venomous discourse provided by the Tea Party, does it surprise anyone that a member of said party would behave in such a manner?

    Let's not be naive. It doesn't have to be stamped on their foreheads for it to be true.


    :lol::lol::lol: loving the pun
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    satansbed wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I'm sure this man is a fair representative of the Tea Party. Have fun with your session.
    it was not just one person, it was a group, outside the debate, supporting rand paul, it was people surronding rand paul that did it, its alot more than one person, it just shows the ignorance of the majority of the tea party
    Indeed. A scuffle between a small group of people shown in a 30 second snippet is a fair representation of millions of people. That seems like fair deductive reasoning to me.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    satansbed wrote:

    Lauren Valle of liberal group MoveOn.org,


    Well when you are part of the problem don't bitch about others...just stay on your feet. ;)
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    satansbed wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I'm sure this man is a fair representative of the Tea Party. Have fun with your session.
    it was not just one person, it was a group, outside the debate, supporting rand paul, it was people surronding rand paul that did it, its alot more than one person, it just shows the ignorance of the majority of the tea party


    seriously? if that is what you believe than the media has done their job in shaping your perception of reality. Who's to say that those guys weren't plants. The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident. Has anyone heard from the jokers involved?

    when are liberals and democrats going to just start getting out their agendas and policies and support their candidates rather than putting way too much effort into denigrating the tea party and not enough into supporting their candidates.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    seriously? if that is what you believe than the media has done their job in shaping your perception of reality. Who's to say that those guys weren't plants. The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident. Has anyone heard from the jokers involved?

    when are liberals and democrats going to just start getting out their agendas and policies and support their candidates rather than putting way too much effort into denigrating the tea party and not enough into supporting their candidates.

    I find it funny you whine about the media and moveon.org while defending women beaters...

    "The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident"...I guess she was asking for it, huh...

    :cry:
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inmytree wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    seriously? if that is what you believe than the media has done their job in shaping your perception of reality. Who's to say that those guys weren't plants. The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident. Has anyone heard from the jokers involved?

    when are liberals and democrats going to just start getting out their agendas and policies and support their candidates rather than putting way too much effort into denigrating the tea party and not enough into supporting their candidates.

    I find it funny you whine about the media and moveon.org while defending women beaters...

    "The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident"...I guess she was asking for it, huh...

    :cry:
    I don't think it is whining, and you clearly missed my earlier post. do we know that these two doing most of the damage are not plants? have they spoken, have charges been levied? all we have seen is a small conviently close clip of this happening and had very little other information...with which the TS basically calls the tea party a movement of uneducated ignorant shitheads.

    here is what I said earlier:

    "I would definitely like to hear an explanation of why these jackoffs did this"

    but you are right, I am clearly defending these two and their actions
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I'm sure this man is a fair representative of the Tea Party. Have fun with your session.
    it was not just one person, it was a group, outside the debate, supporting rand paul, it was people surronding rand paul that did it, its alot more than one person, it just shows the ignorance of the majority of the tea party


    seriously? if that is what you believe than the media has done their job in shaping your perception of reality. Who's to say that those guys weren't plants. The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident. Has anyone heard from the jokers involved?

    when are liberals and democrats going to just start getting out their agendas and policies and support their candidates rather than putting way too much effort into denigrating the tea party and not enough into supporting their candidates.
    i find it funny that the tea party refuses to acknowledge that like all parties it has nutcases with violent intentions in that party and they say everyone acting inappropriately is just a "plant"...
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    seriously? if that is what you believe than the media has done their job in shaping your perception of reality. Who's to say that those guys weren't plants. The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident. Has anyone heard from the jokers involved?

    when are liberals and democrats going to just start getting out their agendas and policies and support their candidates rather than putting way too much effort into denigrating the tea party and not enough into supporting their candidates.

    I find it funny you whine about the media and moveon.org while defending women beaters...

    "The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident"...I guess she was asking for it, huh...

    :cry:
    I don't think it is whining, and you clearly missed my earlier post. do we know that these two doing most of the damage are not plants? have they spoken, have charges been levied? all we have seen is a small conviently close clip of this happening and had very little other information...with which the TS basically calls the tea party a movement of uneducated ignorant shitheads.

    here is what I said earlier:

    "I would definitely like to hear an explanation of why these jackoffs did this"

    but you are right, I am clearly defending these two and their actions

    I guess we don't know if they are plants...I suppose we can simply discount anything by saying "oh yeah, how do you know the person wasn't a plant?"....world problems solved....

    :lol:

    My guess is they were reenacting the Aqua Buddha incident...when Rand forced a women to bow down to a false god...

    oh, those silly plants....

    I do have to ask, what sort of explanation would make those fellas behavior ok..?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i thought aqua buddha was a green aftershave liquid from the 80s....

    no wait, that was Aqua VELVA... :oops:
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inmytree wrote:

    I guess we don't know if they are plants...I suppose we can simply discount anything by saying "oh yeah, how do you know the person wasn't a plant?"....world problems solved....

    :lol:

    My guess is they were reenacting the Aqua Buddha incident...when Rand forced a women to bow down to a false god...

    oh, those silly plants....

    I do have to ask, what sort of explanation would make those fellas behavior ok..?


    that is so far from what I was saying you have no idea. In this age of gotcha politics and "journalism" it wouldn't surprise me in the least, it isn't like it hasn't happened before. Their is a new tmz like attitude towards politicians. Those republican college kids trying to provoke an aged congressman comes to mind. I cannot remember the specifics and don't want to look them up.

    Like I said I would like to hear from the two involved. It looks terrible, but there may be an explanation for at least the first guys behavior. the stepping on the neck/head area would not be explainable. If the guy saw someone trying to rush a political candidate he may have thought she was there to harm that candidate, especially someone wearing a wig(disguise). You never know, and until more is said about the story we won't know. You just cannot jump to conclusions based on a small snippet of video.
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    inmytree wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    I find it funny you whine about the media and moveon.org while defending women beaters...

    "The fact that this person is affiliated with Moveon.org speaks volumes about this incident"...I guess she was asking for it, huh...

    :cry:
    I don't think it is whining, and you clearly missed my earlier post. do we know that these two doing most of the damage are not plants? have they spoken, have charges been levied? all we have seen is a small conviently close clip of this happening and had very little other information...with which the TS basically calls the tea party a movement of uneducated ignorant shitheads.

    here is what I said earlier:

    "I would definitely like to hear an explanation of why these jackoffs did this"

    but you are right, I am clearly defending these two and their actions

    I guess we don't know if they are plants...I suppose we can simply discount anything by saying "oh yeah, how do you know the person wasn't a plant?"....world problems solved....

    :lol:

    My guess is they were reenacting the Aqua Buddha incident...when Rand forced a women to bow down to a false god...

    oh, those silly plants....

    I do have to ask, what sort of explanation would make those fellas behavior ok..?

    Fool me once....
    http://www.breitbart.tv/tea-party-infil ... aul-rally/

    Why not a plant? It's happening more and more... It's a technique perfected by the FBI and CIA in turning peaceful protests and rallies into chaos, and therefore reason for forced dispersement. In today's world of sound-byte, out-of-context, and short-clip news being taken as gospel, this is a great way to discredit an entire movement as people buy into it hook, line, and sinker. It doesn't have to be sanctioned by a candidate or any official PAC either, it can be anyone just acting on their own interests. As seen above with the racist "Rand supporter" it only takes one person to pull this off.

    Do I know that the guy who stomped out the Move On.org lady was a plant? Beats me-- but why rule it out? Politics is a dirty dirty game.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    norm wrote:


    thanks for posting, interesting. People really do get carried away. Hopefully this will be a catalyst for people in the country to realize that politics should not go to blows and the hatred and vitriol spit out is unnecessary.

    glad to see Rand Paul's campaign distancing themselves from this guy.
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  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    norm wrote:

    I'd say that puts the "plant" discussion to rest.

    But seriously? Blaming the cops, and then saying it wasn't as bad as the video made it look? How many ways can you interpret watching a man wrestle a woman to the ground and then stand on her neck and head?
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    hmmm so not only was he NOT a plant but he was a county coordinator for rand paul's campaign....

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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Not defending the actions of this person, but he actually did not step on her head. I guess that's a way of making it sound worse than it is.

    Let's face it, this was a deplorable act by one person who in know way represents what Rand Paul would have done. I'm sure Paul is just sickened this happened.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    know1 wrote:
    Not defending the actions of this person, but he actually did not step on her head. I guess that's a way of making it sound worse than it is.

    Let's face it, this was a deplorable act by one person who in know way represents what Rand Paul would have done. I'm sure Paul is just sickened this happened.


    Right. Anyone saying that the Tea Party as a whole is like this one individual must think all Muslims want to fly planes into skyscrapers.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    know1 wrote:
    Not defending the actions of this person, but he actually did not step on her head. I guess that's a way of making it sound worse than it is.

    Let's face it, this was a deplorable act by one person who in know way represents what Rand Paul would have done. I'm sure Paul is just sickened this happened.


    Right. Anyone saying that the Tea Party as a whole is like this one individual must think all Muslims want to fly planes into skyscrapers.

    Not all of the Tea Party but i big % has shown plenty of Aggression and threats to all who don't agree with their rhetoric , Did you see the latest from Christine Odonnel while she was on a Radio Station they threatend because they didn't like the line in :?: :?: :?: ...
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  • what a horrible man.

    so brave. tough guy assaulting a woman, while others hold her down.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    know1 wrote:
    Not defending the actions of this person, but he actually did not step on her head. I guess that's a way of making it sound worse than it is.

    Let's face it, this was a deplorable act by one person who in know way represents what Rand Paul would have done. I'm sure Paul is just sickened this happened.


    Right. Anyone saying that the Tea Party as a whole is like this one individual must think all Muslims want to fly planes into skyscrapers.

    Not all of the Tea Party but i big % has shown plenty of Aggression and threats to all who don't agree with their rhetoric , Did you see the latest from Christine Odonnel while she was on a Radio Station they threatend because they didn't like the line in :?: :?: :?: ...
    Can you prove this!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    aerial wrote:
    [Can you prove this!
    oh i dunno, maybe look at their agressive behavior with distupting the health care town hall meetings. talking loudly, shouting and confronting elected officials and people that they disagree with is intimidation and is aggressive behavior is it not?
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