I had a real tough time accepting PJ and their 180 degree flip on integrity over a year ago. I loved this band for what they stood up for, first and foremost, and then they sing a different tune? I stopped listening for months, before I could accept them for what they've turned into, and it took just as long for myself to try and understand why they did it. I've decided to settle for loving the music, as it still means the same to me, but I no longer respect EV and the rest like I used to. And no comment about what I think about band management. I'm still here because of all the great people I've met through loving the band, and they're worth it...as well as the music. But I'm coming back around to appreciating EV for who he is.
Sometime we have to stop holding our heroes up on pedestals. Or we'll continually let ourselves down. So I'm OK with the band now, knowing that they're as flawed as I am.
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That's an interesting question. I was wondering about the same thing, first thinking that I would probably quit admiring or at least enjoying the artist's or whoever's work if I found out their beliefs drastically differed from mine. They I came to thinking that you can't deny your fav. artist the tolerance you grant others.
Now I'm confused about all this. I think somehow I wouldn't enjoy the artist's work as much. And I don't know if that's morally right.
I had a real tough time accepting PJ and their 180 degree flip on integrity over a year ago. I loved this band for what they stood up for, first and foremost, and then they sing a different tune? I stopped listening for months, before I could accept them for what they've turned into, and it took just as long for myself to try and understand why they did it. I've decided to settle for loving the music, as it still means the same to me, but I no longer respect EV and the rest like I used to. And no comment about what I think about band management. I'm still here because of all the great people I've met through loving the band, and they're worth it...as well as the music. But I'm coming back around to appreciating EV for who he is.
Sometime we have to stop holding our heroes up on pedestals. Or we'll continually let ourselves down. So I'm OK with the band now, knowing that they're as flawed as I am.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
I somewhat find it odd that the band wouldn't make MTV videos for years but now has its own satellite radio station.
Don't get me wrong listening puts me in a better place, it just does puzzle me.
It doesn't puzzle me, people grow old, they change, priorities change. It's a process we all go through.
When we are young it is our most rebellious time. A time to dissect, find fault, demand change. I'm not saying that totally disappears with age but it mellows.
Fathers provide the very best they can for their heirs. This becomes the most important factor as they age. Its not all about money but money is security for those they love.
The future is not too bright either, the more money one has, the safer one will be...in my opinion.
As far as radio vs videos, I don't think Pearl Jam was ever into the camera like they are the music. I think if a video is made they like to show themselves natural, in action at what they do best, live on stage. So, I'm not sure you can compare the two really. It's about the music for them not acting in a video.
They remain uncommercialized compared to most bands, in my opinion.
I somewhat find it odd that the band wouldn't make MTV videos for years but now has its own satellite radio station.
In my mind these are 2 completely separate and unrelated issues. Their stance on videos was based on a few things: thinking MTV was a joke, thinking videos never really show what the song is about, wanting listeners to interpret the songs their own way, wanting to bow out of the spotlight, etc.
PJ has always been about the music. To have their own station accessible to millions of people? That's like a freaking goldmine to them. THAT is what they are about...and it's why they have had an internet station on their site for months now. They like their music being accessible, and now it is.
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I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
I don't quite understand how some people don't see the drastic change the band had made since their formative years, if you've been a fan for the long haul. I loved the guys for being true to themselves, standing up for what they believed in, as well as being anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally. That really inspired me to have more integrity myself. But it's all changed in the last couple years; with putting out Baskspacer, they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience and being commercial, they're playing private and corporate gigs, and instead of putting the art of music front and center, it's about money. This is JUST my opinion. I understand they have families, so do I. But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization. And for that, I now accept it, but it was a tough pill to swallow for many months.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
I don't understand how some people don't see the drastic change the band had made from their formative years, if you've been a fan for the long haul. I loved the guys for being true to themselves, standing up for what they believed in, as well as being anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally. That really inspired me to have more integrity myself. It's all changed; with putting out Baskspacer, they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience and being commercial, playing private and corporate gigs, and instead of putting the art of music front and center, it's about money. This is JUST my opinion. I understand they have families, so do I. But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization. And for that, I now accept it, but it was a tough pill to swallow for many months.
How are they not "anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally."
"they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience"... I don't see that at all... if that's what they intended they didn't do a very good job of it. And even if they did, as artists they can create whatever they want, who are we to judge?
"playing private and corporate gigs"... for whom? Are they playing for BP or GM or something?
"But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization." ...This just reeks of the old opinion that 'when you're popular you've sold out.' I don't see how there is truth in anything that you're saying... I think you're taking this band a little too seriously maybe.
In regards to beliefs... it is easier to accept others' beliefs when you realize we all have different reality tunnels. We are all viewing the world from our own perspective and each person's persective is drastically different from our own. There is no single concrete almight correct version of reality and once you reconcile that with the recognition that everyone is viewing reality from their own "tunnel," others don't seem insane or strange or normal... they're just viewing the world from a different perspective. And EVERY perspective is just as valid as the next. I also think it is more healthy to believe in as little as possible or even better; believe in NOTHING. I still have a few beliefs that I'm trying to shake (love, optimism, for example) but in general I think in degrees of probability, not in unshakable beliefs that create bias and bigotry. If people starting thinking in degrees of probability and starting saying "maybe" a bit more often this world would be so much better off. "I BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING, NOTHING IS SACRED. I BELIEVE IN NOTHING, EVERYTHING IS SACRED."
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I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
I don't understand how some people don't see the drastic change the band had made from their formative years, if you've been a fan for the long haul. I loved the guys for being true to themselves, standing up for what they believed in, as well as being anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally. That really inspired me to have more integrity myself. It's all changed; with putting out Baskspacer, they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience and being commercial, playing private and corporate gigs, and instead of putting the art of music front and center, it's about money. This is JUST my opinion. I understand they have families, so do I. But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization. And for that, I now accept it, but it was a tough pill to swallow for many months.
How are they not "anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally."
"they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience"... I don't see that at all... if that's what they intended they didn't do a very good job of it. And even if they did, as artists they can create whatever they want, who are we to judge?...
personally i just think the fixer was a shit song. but no where near as shit as johnny guitar. but as i said its what i personally think.
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For me it was never what the band stood for...it was always the music and Eddie's beautiful voice that one can lose themselves in. The lyrics I personalized into my own life. I could have cared less if they were for the guy I voted for or not, against corporations, for or against the war, none of that mattered to me. The politics actually could have turned me off if I didn't love the music so much and need it too.
I think Fixer is an awesome song with a great message for young people. Stop thinking about yourselves all the time and put others needs ahead of your own. Be a fixer in your life and in others lives. I don't listen to the radio much but I'm glad it made the waves and more people are turned on to Pearl Jam. I want them to find the happiness I have found these 20 years, the happiness found in loving their music. Share the love.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
I don't quite understand how some people don't see the drastic change the band had made since their formative years, if you've been a fan for the long haul. I loved the guys for being true to themselves, standing up for what they believed in, as well as being anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally. That really inspired me to have more integrity myself. But it's all changed in the last couple years; with putting out Baskspacer, they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience and being commercial, they're playing private and corporate gigs, and instead of putting the art of music front and center, it's about money. This is JUST my opinion. I understand they have families, so do I. But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization. And for that, I now accept it, but it was a tough pill to swallow for many months.
As much as this is continuing to take the discussion further away from catefrances' point, I agree with you. In the early days Pearl Jam made some kickass music, took on Ticketmaster on behalf of their fans, and raised a middle finger to MTV. I have a version of Even Flow from back in the day that starts off with EV going on a rant about the people who took limos to their show.
For me, the turn happened when they let the TV show "Friends" use Yellow Ledbetter. It was a sign that the band was now at least, to some degree, factoring money into their decisions. I find it hard to believe that Vs-era Pearl Jam would let a sitcom use one of their songs, or would write music for a Julia Roberts chick flick. I also think Backspacer was a blatantly commercial album that was written to get the band more airplay - and I know I'm not alone there, because in addition to the protests over the sound of the album from some fans, the band members themselves were admitting it in interviews they gave prior to the album's release. Personally, it's my least-favourite PJ album for that reason - it's a little too pop for me, and doesn't have the depth of prior albums. That's not to say it isn't a wash for me - I absolutely love Force of Nature - but I find myself skipping over more songs on that album than any other PJ album - including the oft-maligned Riot Act (which will always have a special place in my heart because they went and did something completely different with You Are, and I freaking love that song too).
So, like you, I went through a phase after the album's release where I felt let down by the band, and didn't listen to them for a while. That phase didn't last too long though - they've written far too much awesome music over the years, and at the end of the day one album I don't like is a tiny price to pay for eight I do, and the number of songs from them I love FAR outweighs the number I dislike - and there are VERY few bands I can say that about.
On another note - how would you feel if the band (or any band/artist you liked) collaborated with someone you couldn't stand? I get a kick out of the number of rappers who worship at the altar of Justin Bieber and act like Jesus gave them a hug if he ever says he wants to collaborate with them - it seems to be a desperate ploy for popularity, they'll gladly work with Bieber if it means more people will buy their albums. So, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel if Pearl Jam worked with someone you didn't like? If they were in the studio one day and said, "Say, this song needs female vocals in the bridge - does anyone have Lady Gaga's number?"
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
You know, we can scrutinize the shit out of every decision they make, but ultimately, we don't know why they do what they do for the most part. I was honestly surprised that YL was used in that Friends episode, but do you think the producers of Friends really offered PJ enough money to care about that? It was a long standing show that a lot of people loved, and quite frankly, the song fit well where they put it... just like how PJ puts it in their sets. And i think it only played for a few seconds if I remember correctly.
Otherwise, in my opinion, it is silly to criticize things like the Target deal because no matter what, PJ wants people to hear their music, and how else do people suggest they put out a record? The tired antiquated way of Sony and records gathering dust at random shops? I think the Target deal was a great idea and an attempt to try something new.
Now I agree that Backsper has a different sound. One of my least favorites to date, but I think they are always just trying something different. We can say that about most of the last 4-5 albums.
All this stuff surely has something to do with money, but I would just assume that now that the limelight(oustide of their touring), has eased up, its probably a little easier for them to not take things so damn seriously and just have some fun. I think they've earned that.
You know, we can scrutinize the shit out of every decision they make, but ultimately, we don't know why they do what they do for the most part. I was honestly surprised that YL was used in that Friends episode, but do you think the producers of Friends really offered PJ enough money to care about that? It was a long standing show that a lot of people loved, and quite frankly, the song fit well where they put it... just like how PJ puts it in their sets. And i think it only played for a few seconds if I remember correctly.
Otherwise, in my opinion, it is silly to criticize things like the Target deal because no matter what, PJ wants people to hear their music, and how else do people suggest they put out a record? The tired antiquated way of Sony and records gathering dust at random shops? I think the Target deal was a great idea and an attempt to try something new.
Now I agree that Backsper has a different sound. One of my least favorites to date, but I think they are always just trying something different. We can say that about most of the last 4-5 albums.
All this stuff surely has something to do with money, but I would just assume that now that the limelight(oustide of their touring), has eased up, its probably a little easier for them to not take things so damn seriously and just have some fun. I think they've earned that.
To be perfectly honest, the Target deal never bothered me all that much. It got the album out there to people, and also allowed them to stock it in the smaller independent stores too, which was cool.
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
On another note - how would you feel if the band (or any band/artist you liked) collaborated with someone you couldn't stand? I get a kick out of the number of rappers who worship at the altar of Justin Bieber and act like Jesus gave them a hug if he ever says he wants to collaborate with them - it seems to be a desperate ploy for popularity, they'll gladly work with Bieber if it means more people will buy their albums. So, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel if Pearl Jam worked with someone you didn't like? If they were in the studio one day and said, "Say, this song needs female vocals in the bridge - does anyone have Lady Gaga's number?"
I don't know...I guess it would depend on who they collaborated with? But I'd at least give it a hear before making any judgement. EDIT: Sorry to not elaborate on the topic more but the whole subject about PJ has drained me and I don't care to think about it anymore. It's in the past... And yeah, BS was their weakest work in my opinion.
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To be perfectly honest, the Target deal never bothered me all that much. It got the album out there to people, and also allowed them to stock it in the smaller independent stores too, which was cool.
ive never understood this. surely if an indie store wanted to stock backspacer, or any album for that matter, all theyd have to do is call the band and ask to be shipped copies. i dont see how target was needed for that. anyhoo...
in regards to yellowledbetter being used in friends... recently ive become aware of the use of a song by one of my fave bands in an advertisement. the advert shows a guy running to COGs song run. when i first heard i thought ooh thisll be interesting. i thoguht it was fohuman rights or something similiar. the videoclip for this song, when it came out, addressed australias policy of refugee detention... so you can understand my absolute shock when at the end the guy turns onto his property and slams into something invisible revealing what was being advertised as the real estate section of one of our major newspapers. amd how if you dont advertise in DOMAIN, your house may as well be invisible.
i was stunned. i didnt understand how this song by this band could be used for such a blatantly capitalist enterprise. COG are such a righteous political band it made absolutely no sense to me. it is beyond my realm of reasoning to understand why this has happened and i wont understand it until i find out why they allowed it. maybe even then i still wont understand. i cant even watch that advertisement anymore. has what i seee as the selling of their collective soul stopped me listening to COG? no it hasnt. has it got me thinking about their music differently? no it hasnt. has it got me questioning the band? yes it has. im really not someone who would approach my favourite musician for some casual conversation just cause they are my favourite musician... however in this case i need an answer. whether COG feel the need to answer.. thats up to them.
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I somewhat find it odd that the band wouldn't make MTV videos for years but now has its own satellite radio station.
In my mind these are 2 completely separate and unrelated issues. Their stance on videos was based on a few things: thinking MTV was a joke, thinking videos never really show what the song is about, wanting listeners to interpret the songs their own way, wanting to bow out of the spotlight, etc.
PJ has always been about the music. To have their own station accessible to millions of people? That's like a freaking goldmine to them. THAT is what they are about...and it's why they have had an internet station on their site for months now. They like their music being accessible, and now it is.
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Now I'm confused about all this. I think somehow I wouldn't enjoy the artist's work as much. And I don't know if that's morally right.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but I'm wondering if you could elaborate. What is the 180 degree flip? What is the different tune?
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I somewhat find it odd that the band wouldn't make MTV videos for years but now has its own satellite radio station.
Don't get me wrong listening puts me in a better place, it just does puzzle me.
When we are young it is our most rebellious time. A time to dissect, find fault, demand change. I'm not saying that totally disappears with age but it mellows.
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The future is not too bright either, the more money one has, the safer one will be...in my opinion.
As far as radio vs videos, I don't think Pearl Jam was ever into the camera like they are the music. I think if a video is made they like to show themselves natural, in action at what they do best, live on stage. So, I'm not sure you can compare the two really. It's about the music for them not acting in a video.
They remain uncommercialized compared to most bands, in my opinion.
In my mind these are 2 completely separate and unrelated issues. Their stance on videos was based on a few things: thinking MTV was a joke, thinking videos never really show what the song is about, wanting listeners to interpret the songs their own way, wanting to bow out of the spotlight, etc.
PJ has always been about the music. To have their own station accessible to millions of people? That's like a freaking goldmine to them. THAT is what they are about...and it's why they have had an internet station on their site for months now. They like their music being accessible, and now it is.
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I don't quite understand how some people don't see the drastic change the band had made since their formative years, if you've been a fan for the long haul. I loved the guys for being true to themselves, standing up for what they believed in, as well as being anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally. That really inspired me to have more integrity myself. But it's all changed in the last couple years; with putting out Baskspacer, they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience and being commercial, they're playing private and corporate gigs, and instead of putting the art of music front and center, it's about money. This is JUST my opinion. I understand they have families, so do I. But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization. And for that, I now accept it, but it was a tough pill to swallow for many months.
How are they not "anti-greed, anti-corporate and outspoken politically, socially and environmentally."
"they make a "radio-friendly" song (The Fixer) for the sole purpose of gaining a new audience"... I don't see that at all... if that's what they intended they didn't do a very good job of it. And even if they did, as artists they can create whatever they want, who are we to judge?
"playing private and corporate gigs"... for whom? Are they playing for BP or GM or something?
"But there's a way to secure your financial future without compromising your ideals. Which they did, or their ideals just went way of more money and commercialization." ...This just reeks of the old opinion that 'when you're popular you've sold out.' I don't see how there is truth in anything that you're saying... I think you're taking this band a little too seriously maybe.
In regards to beliefs... it is easier to accept others' beliefs when you realize we all have different reality tunnels. We are all viewing the world from our own perspective and each person's persective is drastically different from our own. There is no single concrete almight correct version of reality and once you reconcile that with the recognition that everyone is viewing reality from their own "tunnel," others don't seem insane or strange or normal... they're just viewing the world from a different perspective. And EVERY perspective is just as valid as the next. I also think it is more healthy to believe in as little as possible or even better; believe in NOTHING. I still have a few beliefs that I'm trying to shake (love, optimism, for example) but in general I think in degrees of probability, not in unshakable beliefs that create bias and bigotry. If people starting thinking in degrees of probability and starting saying "maybe" a bit more often this world would be so much better off. "I BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING, NOTHING IS SACRED. I BELIEVE IN NOTHING, EVERYTHING IS SACRED."
personally i just think the fixer was a shit song. but no where near as shit as johnny guitar. but as i said its what i personally think.
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I think Fixer is an awesome song with a great message for young people. Stop thinking about yourselves all the time and put others needs ahead of your own. Be a fixer in your life and in others lives. I don't listen to the radio much but I'm glad it made the waves and more people are turned on to Pearl Jam. I want them to find the happiness I have found these 20 years, the happiness found in loving their music. Share the love.
As much as this is continuing to take the discussion further away from catefrances' point, I agree with you. In the early days Pearl Jam made some kickass music, took on Ticketmaster on behalf of their fans, and raised a middle finger to MTV. I have a version of Even Flow from back in the day that starts off with EV going on a rant about the people who took limos to their show.
For me, the turn happened when they let the TV show "Friends" use Yellow Ledbetter. It was a sign that the band was now at least, to some degree, factoring money into their decisions. I find it hard to believe that Vs-era Pearl Jam would let a sitcom use one of their songs, or would write music for a Julia Roberts chick flick. I also think Backspacer was a blatantly commercial album that was written to get the band more airplay - and I know I'm not alone there, because in addition to the protests over the sound of the album from some fans, the band members themselves were admitting it in interviews they gave prior to the album's release. Personally, it's my least-favourite PJ album for that reason - it's a little too pop for me, and doesn't have the depth of prior albums. That's not to say it isn't a wash for me - I absolutely love Force of Nature - but I find myself skipping over more songs on that album than any other PJ album - including the oft-maligned Riot Act (which will always have a special place in my heart because they went and did something completely different with You Are, and I freaking love that song too).
So, like you, I went through a phase after the album's release where I felt let down by the band, and didn't listen to them for a while. That phase didn't last too long though - they've written far too much awesome music over the years, and at the end of the day one album I don't like is a tiny price to pay for eight I do, and the number of songs from them I love FAR outweighs the number I dislike - and there are VERY few bands I can say that about.
On another note - how would you feel if the band (or any band/artist you liked) collaborated with someone you couldn't stand? I get a kick out of the number of rappers who worship at the altar of Justin Bieber and act like Jesus gave them a hug if he ever says he wants to collaborate with them - it seems to be a desperate ploy for popularity, they'll gladly work with Bieber if it means more people will buy their albums. So, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel if Pearl Jam worked with someone you didn't like? If they were in the studio one day and said, "Say, this song needs female vocals in the bridge - does anyone have Lady Gaga's number?"
Otherwise, in my opinion, it is silly to criticize things like the Target deal because no matter what, PJ wants people to hear their music, and how else do people suggest they put out a record? The tired antiquated way of Sony and records gathering dust at random shops? I think the Target deal was a great idea and an attempt to try something new.
Now I agree that Backsper has a different sound. One of my least favorites to date, but I think they are always just trying something different. We can say that about most of the last 4-5 albums.
All this stuff surely has something to do with money, but I would just assume that now that the limelight(oustide of their touring), has eased up, its probably a little easier for them to not take things so damn seriously and just have some fun. I think they've earned that.
To be perfectly honest, the Target deal never bothered me all that much. It got the album out there to people, and also allowed them to stock it in the smaller independent stores too, which was cool.
I don't know...I guess it would depend on who they collaborated with? But I'd at least give it a hear before making any judgement. EDIT: Sorry to not elaborate on the topic more but the whole subject about PJ has drained me and I don't care to think about it anymore. It's in the past... And yeah, BS was their weakest work in my opinion.
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ive never understood this. surely if an indie store wanted to stock backspacer, or any album for that matter, all theyd have to do is call the band and ask to be shipped copies. i dont see how target was needed for that. anyhoo...
in regards to yellowledbetter being used in friends... recently ive become aware of the use of a song by one of my fave bands in an advertisement. the advert shows a guy running to COGs song run. when i first heard i thought ooh thisll be interesting. i thoguht it was fohuman rights or something similiar. the videoclip for this song, when it came out, addressed australias policy of refugee detention... so you can understand my absolute shock when at the end the guy turns onto his property and slams into something invisible revealing what was being advertised as the real estate section of one of our major newspapers. amd how if you dont advertise in DOMAIN, your house may as well be invisible.
i was stunned. i didnt understand how this song by this band could be used for such a blatantly capitalist enterprise. COG are such a righteous political band it made absolutely no sense to me. it is beyond my realm of reasoning to understand why this has happened and i wont understand it until i find out why they allowed it. maybe even then i still wont understand. i cant even watch that advertisement anymore. has what i seee as the selling of their collective soul stopped me listening to COG? no it hasnt. has it got me thinking about their music differently? no it hasnt. has it got me questioning the band? yes it has. im really not someone who would approach my favourite musician for some casual conversation just cause they are my favourite musician... however in this case i need an answer. whether COG feel the need to answer.. thats up to them.
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Agreed.