They are already here. This administration doesn't do anything about it because they don't want to offend their voting base.
You do know he deports more Mexicans than Bush ever did, right?
I haden't thought about that but now that mention I do hear more now about deportation then ever before.
cool.
Godfather.
we need to put some real teeth into the laws already on the books against identity fraud and hiring illegal immigrants. Bankrupt a few companies and throw some CEOs in jail and you might just get some attention.
Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
how much $ did bush sink into that virtual fence that the government is now saying doesn't really work that well?
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Beginning to think republicans are just gigantic pussies. need their gigantic armies and own their own guns for protection against all the gays and brown people who threaten their existence everyday.
Grow a pair republicans, then maybe you won't be sniveling fearful wusses.
Beginning to think republicans are just gigantic pussies. need their gigantic armies and own their own guns for protection against all the gays and brown people who threaten their existence everyday.
Grow a pair republicans, then maybe you won't be sniveling fearful wusses.
yea that sounds like an intelligent thought come on man think about what you just said-posted.
You do know he deports more Mexicans than Bush ever did, right?
I haden't thought about that but now that mention I do hear more now about deportation then ever before.
cool.
Godfather.
we need to put some real teeth into the laws already on the books against identity fraud and hiring illegal immigrants. Bankrupt a few companies and throw some CEOs in jail and you might just get some attention.
Good point arthurdent and Godfather. I hate it when people say "illegals are taking our jobs." No they aren't. They are being given American jobs by American business owners who do not want to pay higher salaries, health coverage, or taxes.
Beginning to think republicans are just gigantic pussies. need their gigantic armies and own their own guns for protection against all the gays and brown people who threaten their existence everyday.
Grow a pair republicans, then maybe you won't be sniveling fearful wusses.
yea that sounds like an intelligent thought come on man think about what you just said-posted.
Godfather.
no duh. meant to be a bit sarcastic.
but I DO believe the previous administration, Fox, Rush, Breitbart feed on your fears, for votes and to keep you in line.....
Good point arthurdent and Godfather. I hate it when people say "illegals are taking our jobs." No they aren't. They are being given American jobs by American business owners who do not want to pay higher salaries, health coverage, or taxes.
Well put.
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Good point arthurdent and Godfather. I hate it when people say "illegals are taking our jobs." No they aren't. They are being given American jobs by American business owners who do not want to pay higher salaries, health coverage, or taxes.
Well put.
Thanks. If possible, see what Phil Knight said about sending his jobs overseas in Michael Moore's The Big One. To paraphrase, Knight said that Americans don't want those jobs, with those jobs being the factory jobs. Meanhwile, Moore was pleading with him to build a factory in Flint, and even had video of Flintonians (?) begging Knight to move a factory there. Fuck Phil Knight; Fuck Nike - the Great "American" Company. This outscourcing bull shit has to stop, as does the bull shit practice of giving illegals jobs. If AMERICANS didn't give them the jobs, they wouldn't be coming over the border in droves.
They are already here. This administration doesn't do anything about it because they don't want to offend their voting base.
You do know he deports more Mexicans than Bush ever did, right?
But, cajunwiki, I need some sources to back this up.
Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration
In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office...
Good point arthurdent and Godfather. I hate it when people say "illegals are taking our jobs." No they aren't. They are being given American jobs by American business owners who do not want to pay higher salaries, health coverage, or taxes.
Well put.
Thanks. If possible, see what Phil Knight said about sending his jobs overseas in Michael Moore's The Big One. To paraphrase, Knight said that Americans don't want those jobs, with those jobs being the factory jobs. Meanhwile, Moore was pleading with him to build a factory in Flint, and even had video of Flintonians (?) begging Knight to move a factory there. Fuck Phil Knight; Fuck Nike - the Great "American" Company. This outscourcing bull shit has to stop, as does the bull shit practice of giving illegals jobs. If AMERICANS didn't give them the jobs, they wouldn't be coming over the border in droves.
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“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
They are already here. This administration doesn't do anything about it because they don't want to offend their voting base.
You do know he deports more Mexicans than Bush ever did, right?
But, cajunwiki, I need some sources to back this up.
Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration
In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office...
So they are
Expecting? This is not the same as doing.
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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Didn't Pelosi and Neapolitan both publicly say raids needed to stop?
So they are
Expecting? This is not the same as doing.
If you read the actual article, instead of just the blurb provided, you would've noticed the sidebar that showed 21,000 illegal immigrants were deported during Obama's first year in office than were deported in Bush's last year. The 2009 number was a record, and the 2010 number is on pace to shatter the 2009 number.
As for the raids, the article also says fewer raids are being conducted under the Obama administration, but more effort is being put into auditing employers suspected of hiring illegal immigrants - they're finding those illegal immigrants by finding inconsistencies in employee documentation.
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
How much are we (Americans) to blame? Examples: American business men that hire illegals in order to avoid paying taxes, higher wages, and health insurance. American addiction to illegal drugs - not pot, but real drugs, such as cocaine.
Why is it a bad thing to be in favor of closing the border? If for nothing else, for the serious problem of overpopulation?
What is the best solution to this problem? I am looking for details here, not just "send 'em back tot Mexico" or "Patrol the border."
How much are we (Americans) to blame? Examples: American business men that hire illegals in order to avoid paying taxes, higher wages, and health insurance. American addiction to illegal drugs - not pot, but real drugs, such as cocaine.
Why is it a bad thing to be in favor of closing the border? If for nothing else, for the serious problem of overpopulation?
What is the best solution to this problem? I am looking for details here, not just "send 'em back tot Mexico" or "Patrol the border."
that is the solution IMO.
the cartels fight and kill over drug profits if it's pot or cocaine and they're coming the US to kill and protect their business so something has to be done and closing the border is a great start.
it's obvious the Mexican government can not protect their own people or them selfs for that matter, it is a government so deeply corrupted that secretes on a bust can not be trusted to the police or higher government officials and the few that are trustworthy are killed in public by the cartels.
so yes close the borders up ASAP and patrol them with BPA's and the national guard.
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You do know he deports more Mexicans than Bush ever did, right?
I haden't thought about that but now that mention I do hear more now about deportation then ever before.
cool.
Godfather.
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
we need to put some real teeth into the laws already on the books against identity fraud and hiring illegal immigrants. Bankrupt a few companies and throw some CEOs in jail and you might just get some attention.
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
ha ha before I got into aerospace I was a crane oiler/operator and had worked on that fence,we laughed
but worked every hour they offered.
Godfather.
Beginning to think republicans are just gigantic pussies. need their gigantic armies and own their own guns for protection against all the gays and brown people who threaten their existence everyday.
Grow a pair republicans, then maybe you won't be sniveling fearful wusses.
yea that sounds like an intelligent thought come on man think about what you just said-posted.
Godfather.
Good point arthurdent and Godfather. I hate it when people say "illegals are taking our jobs." No they aren't. They are being given American jobs by American business owners who do not want to pay higher salaries, health coverage, or taxes.
But, cajunwiki, I need some sources to back this up.
no duh. meant to be a bit sarcastic.
but I DO believe the previous administration, Fox, Rush, Breitbart feed on your fears, for votes and to keep you in line.....
Thanks. If possible, see what Phil Knight said about sending his jobs overseas in Michael Moore's The Big One. To paraphrase, Knight said that Americans don't want those jobs, with those jobs being the factory jobs. Meanhwile, Moore was pleading with him to build a factory in Flint, and even had video of Flintonians (?) begging Knight to move a factory there. Fuck Phil Knight; Fuck Nike - the Great "American" Company. This outscourcing bull shit has to stop, as does the bull shit practice of giving illegals jobs. If AMERICANS didn't give them the jobs, they wouldn't be coming over the border in droves.
At least the plant exists.
Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration
In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01790.html
Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration
In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01790.html[/quote]
So they are
Expecting? This is not the same as doing.
Godfather.
OK, ya gotta give 'em points for creativity/stupidity. The concrete furniture was pretty good.
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
done, points duly noted.
I just thought it was crazy to see those people under the hood of the truck.
Godfather.
Creativity= they know it is illegal
Stupidity= a misinterpretation of desperation
We still have to close the borders, though. 310 million and growing.
If you read the actual article, instead of just the blurb provided, you would've noticed the sidebar that showed 21,000 illegal immigrants were deported during Obama's first year in office than were deported in Bush's last year. The 2009 number was a record, and the 2010 number is on pace to shatter the 2009 number.
As for the raids, the article also says fewer raids are being conducted under the Obama administration, but more effort is being put into auditing employers suspected of hiring illegal immigrants - they're finding those illegal immigrants by finding inconsistencies in employee documentation.
Godfather.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/29/ar ... latestnews
Yes. A few.
How much are we (Americans) to blame? Examples: American business men that hire illegals in order to avoid paying taxes, higher wages, and health insurance. American addiction to illegal drugs - not pot, but real drugs, such as cocaine.
Why is it a bad thing to be in favor of closing the border? If for nothing else, for the serious problem of overpopulation?
What is the best solution to this problem? I am looking for details here, not just "send 'em back tot Mexico" or "Patrol the border."
that is the solution IMO.
the cartels fight and kill over drug profits if it's pot or cocaine and they're coming the US to kill and protect their business so something has to be done and closing the border is a great start.
it's obvious the Mexican government can not protect their own people or them selfs for that matter, it is a government so deeply corrupted that secretes on a bust can not be trusted to the police or higher government officials and the few that are trustworthy are killed in public by the cartels.
so yes close the borders up ASAP and patrol them with BPA's and the national guard.
Godfather.
we should send a US special forces unit or 2 over there and start wiping out the drug cartels and ALL it's associates and members.
Godfather.