Greatest President in American History?

musicismylife78
musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
From the modern era, or historical, who is your pick for the greatest president in American History?
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  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    From the modern era, or historical, who is your pick for the greatest president in American History?

    Although he was never the saint mythology has turned him into, Abraham Lincoln wins it for me hands down. I bet he was a trip to sit down and have a chat with. :lol:
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    None of them were great. They were politicians.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Byrnzie wrote:
    None of them were great. They were politicians.
    :lol:
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    james marshall


    get off my plane
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    c.j. krueger
    :mrgreen:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    FDR
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Truman
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

    9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
    5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
    8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
    EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    I like Truman, Adams & TR.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I was too young to know Kennedy, I was in 2nd grade when he was shot.
    I remember sitting at my desk, rubbing my hands on the shiny surface.
    The announcement came over the loud speaker.
    We were all let go early, I had a 3 block walk home. My Mama was crying when I got there.
    He was so well liked I would have to say him although I know not of what he did.
    I also liked Reagan's cheery ways and his rosy cheeks, he too was well liked,
    I think he enjoyed a little green now and then. 8-)
    I still believed in our Presidents back then.
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    pandora wrote:
    I was too young to know Kennedy, I was in 2nd grade when he was shot.
    I remember sitting at my desk, rubbing my hands on the shiny surface.
    The announcement came over the loud speaker.
    We were all let go early, I had a 3 block walk home. My Mama was crying when I got there.
    He was so well liked I would have to say him although I know not of what he did.
    I also liked Reagan's cheery ways and his rosy cheeks, he too was well liked,
    I think he enjoyed a little green now and then. 8-)
    I still believed in our Presidents back then.

    ditto
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    pandora wrote:
    I was too young to know Kennedy, I was in 2nd grade when he was shot.
    I remember sitting at my desk, rubbing my hands on the shiny surface.
    The announcement came over the loud speaker.
    We were all let go early, I had a 3 block walk home. My Mama was crying when I got there.
    He was so well liked I would have to say him although I know not of what he did.
    I also liked Reagan's cheery ways and his rosy cheeks, he too was well liked,
    I think he enjoyed a little green now and then. 8-)
    I still believed in our Presidents back then.

    I've got a nice framed display that has an autographed pic of JFK staring at me right now here in my office, along with some other trinkets that came from the White House when he was President. I'm a history nut, so I collect a lot of things. I guess the weirdest thing I have, and yes even I'll admit that it's weird, is a lock of Abraham Lincoln's hair, along with a fragment of the flag that flew on his funeral train. Again, I know it's weird, but a relative of mine was a part of the Lincoln administration, and it was passed down over time. Back then, it was very common to send locks of hair to loved ones, and it was never thought of as strange at all. I have this deal framed in my office and even today I find myself fascinated by it for some reason.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Shawshank wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I was too young to know Kennedy, I was in 2nd grade when he was shot.
    I remember sitting at my desk, rubbing my hands on the shiny surface.
    The announcement came over the loud speaker.
    We were all let go early, I had a 3 block walk home. My Mama was crying when I got there.
    He was so well liked I would have to say him although I know not of what he did.
    I also liked Reagan's cheery ways and his rosy cheeks, he too was well liked,
    I think he enjoyed a little green now and then. 8-)
    I still believed in our Presidents back then.

    I've got a nice framed display that has an autographed pic of JFK staring at me right now here in my office, along with some other trinkets that came from the White House when he was President. I'm a history nut, so I collect a lot of things. I guess the weirdest thing I have, and yes even I'll admit that it's weird, is a lock of Abraham Lincoln's hair, along with a fragment of the flag that flew on his funeral train. Again, I know it's weird, but a relative of mine was a part of the Lincoln administration, and it was passed down over time. Back then, it was very common to send locks of hair to loved ones, and it was never thought of as strange at all. I have this deal framed in my office and even today I find myself fascinated by it for some reason.
    I don't think thats weird at all, I think its very cool.
    My mother in law traced their tree and she found they are related to Lincoln somehow...as are my kids now but I bet a lot of people might be able to say that
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Thomas Jefferson
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    My time, Slick Willy Clinton.
    Before My time, FDR.

    Godfather.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    martin-van-buren_113824t.jpg

    Martin Van Buren!

    I don't know what he did, but any man that could sport the half-balding / muttonchop look with authority had to have been a force of nature. :D
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • James Madison

    Ronald Reagan

    JFK
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • jamburger
    jamburger Posts: 1,775
    Jason P wrote:
    martin-van-buren_113824t.jpg

    Martin Van Buren!

    I don't know what he did, but any man that could sport the half-balding / muttonchop look with authority had to have been a force of nature. :D

    PLUS... did you know he inspired the name for a tough NYC street gang?!?!?!?!

    14-seinfeld-Van_Buren_Boys.jpg

    Quick Georgie... flash them the sign!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Ronald Reagan


    Ronald Reagan was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans, along with the rape of thousands of women - including the raping of nuns.
    He also lied to the American public and pissed on the constitution, setting the standard for further top level abuses of power in the future - Papa Bush, and Bush junior, for example.


    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ronal ... an_iF.html
    '...In the 1980s, U.S.-backed forces committed widespread massacres, political murders and torture. Tens of thousands of civilians died. Many of the dead were children. Soldiers routinely raped women before executing them.
    There can be no doubt, too, that President Reagan was an avid supporter of the implicated military forces, that he supplied them with weapons and that he actively sought to discredit human rights investigators and journalists who exposed the crimes...'


    http://www.counterpunch.org/gaspar06062004.html
    '...Reagan's economic policies were a disaster for working-class Americans. Reagan presided over the worst recession since the 1930s, and economic growth in the 1980s was lower than in the 1970s, despite the stimulus of military Keynesian policies, which created massive federal budget deficits and tripled the federal debt. By the end of the decade, real wages were down and the poverty rate had increased by 20 percent.

    Reagan was also a liar. In November 1986, he publicly denied that his administration had been illegally selling arms to Iran and using the proceeds to fund the contras. One week later he was forced to retract this statement, but denied that the sale was part of a deal to free U.S. hostages. The following year, Reagan admitted that there had been an arms-for-hostages deal, but denied he knew anything about it.

    In 1992, that too proved to be a lie when former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger was compelled to release notes from a January 1986 meeting revealing, "President decided to go with Israeli-Iranian offer to release our 5 hostages in return for sale of 4,000 TOWs [U.S. missiles] to Iran by Israel."

    The man whose administration spearheaded class warfare on behalf of the rich, dragged American politics to the right, and rebuilt US imperialism after the Vietnam debacle, is dead. Good riddance.'
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    jamburger wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    martin-van-buren_113824t.jpg

    Martin Van Buren!

    I don't know what he did, but any man that could sport the half-balding / muttonchop look with authority had to have been a force of nature. :D

    PLUS... did you know he inspired the name for a tough NYC street gang?!?!?!?!

    14-seinfeld-Van_Buren_Boys.jpg

    Quick Georgie... flash them the sign!

    Done and done!

    Martin Van Buren, Greatest President Ever!
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Byrnzie wrote:
    None of them were great. They were politicians.
    ^ this.