Fuck drunk drivers!!!
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pandora wrote:texting recently made illegal here in GA
Soon to be most places, I assume, but still, how do the police enforce it?Idaho's Premier Outdoor Writer
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This is awful, I'm so sorry for your daughter's friend's family.
I've always thought DUI punishments were way too lenient, and this outcome is just so tragic. A big hug for you Shawshank!! You sound like you could use one.
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eyedclaar wrote:pandora wrote:texting recently made illegal here in GA
Soon to be most places, I assume, but still, how do the police enforce it?
The controversy has started already, some saying it is more dangerous as texters put the phone out of sight now, trying to conceal, text and drive at the same time.
I would imagine a cop will watch someone who they suspect and stop and check the phone. The seatbelt law is enforced in and around my home with police often randomly stopping and checking drivers, perhaps they will do that too.
The fine for texting is 150$ I think. Seatbelt fine is quite low and includes passenger in the front seat.0 -
One of the biggest offenders of DUI's are cops. I had a softball friend who is a DC cop and when his buddies would join us after games they would drink to no end. I would tell them I'm at my two beer limit how about you guys, they would say, "we don't worry about that shit we take of each other". I was like are you kidding me these guys would routinely drink 8-10 beers after games and i know they pull people over for far less.
Sorry for your loss it's very tragic indeed. i tell my step kids to wear their seatbelts when in a car backseat or not cause they are people out there driving drunk all the time. One never knows when your number is being called.
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this was a major issue in my area. The cops bungled the investigation (purposely or not, who knows). It's disgusting. The judge even said he was getting away with murder.
I still see the roadside flowers at the site all the time. It's so sad.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2007/10/29/harveymordenzenk.htmlg under p wrote:One of the biggest offenders of DUI's are cops. I had a softball friend who is a DC cop and when his buddies would join us after games they would drink to no end. I would tell them I'm at my two beer limit how about you guys, they would say, "we don't worry about that shit we take of each other". I was like are you kidding me these guys would routinely drink 8-10 beers after games and i know they pull people over for far less.
Sorry for your loss it's very tragic indeed. i tell my step kids to wear their seatbelts when in a car backseat or not cause they are people out there driving drunk all the time. One never knows when your number is being called.
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When I read about tragedies like this, it makes me wonder how people can even fathom getting behind the wheel after they have been drinking. Sadly, many people make the decision based on the their risk of getting caught/blowing above the legal limit. I wish people would base their decisions on the fact that they may seriously injure, or even kill, an innocent person.
If people can't make good decisions on their own, the legal system needs to harshen the punishment given to first-time and re-offenders.0 -
Well, I got an update today, and I don't think this is going to be a free ride for this person after all. They have him charged with intoxication manslaughter. He's also being held for the immigration violation. For a while there they were making it sound like they were going to give him a ride to the border and send him on his way, but it's not looking like that now. Tomorrows the visitation and Thursday is the funeral. I think it's going to really hit home then. Thanks for all the kind words and support from everyone here.0
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Shawshank wrote:No offense taken Triumph, I understand totally what you are saying. It would be equally devastating no matter what citizenship the person held. I think I just feel anger, more so than I ever have before, because they are already saying they may be limited to just deporting this guy. That's just not right. I realize that nothing they do will bring our friend back, or give this girl back her father, but to essentially have no consequences. It makes no sense. Don't get me wrong, I don't have hatred for this person, infact the hardest thing I've had to do is explain to my kids why we should pray for the person that caused this, just like we do for the family that is suffering. Still though, we all make decisions, and we all should have to be held to the consequences of those decisions.
I just can't fathom the loss. My daughter has cried herself to sleep every night since it happened, so I can't imagine what her friend is going through. It just hurts even more to see your kids hurting so bad and knowing there's really nothing you can do. If there's good that can come out of this, it's just that the already close bond I shared with my kids just grew even stronger. My wife and I are already planning to step up and do whatever we can to at least fill whatever small part of that massive void that we can. As far as I'm concerned the girl is a part of our family now, and we will treat her as such, and her mom will get as much support and care as we can possibly give. That's really all we can do.
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Paul David wrote:this was a major issue in my area. The cops bungled the investigation (purposely or not, who knows). It's disgusting. The judge even said he was getting away with murder.
I still see the roadside flowers at the site all the time. It's so sad.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2007/10/29/harveymordenzenk.htmlg under p wrote:One of the biggest offenders of DUI's are cops. I had a softball friend who is a DC cop and when his buddies would join us after games they would drink to no end. I would tell them I'm at my two beer limit how about you guys, they would say, "we don't worry about that shit we take of each other". I was like are you kidding me these guys would routinely drink 8-10 beers after games and i know they pull people over for far less.
Sorry for your loss it's very tragic indeed. i tell my step kids to wear their seatbelts when in a car backseat or not cause they are people out there driving drunk all the time. One never knows when your number is being called.
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Wow it appears officers cover for each other up in Canada too. I certainly hope that officer doesn't have a job with the department anymore.
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unsung wrote:Yeah. Ok I'll agree drunks are bad.
I'm not going to turn this political. So I better stay out because it's f-ing bs these mfers are allowed to stay here.
I hope the family gets through this. Pm me the memorial schooling fund so I can send a check.
F illegal alien sympathizers.
You're completely detracting the point of the thread so you can go on with your "illegals" tirade. :roll:live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
I'm really sorry to hear about this all.
I knwo they've just made stricter laws here in B.C. ...too many people JUST DON'T GET IT.
They see what happens but they still think they're invincible... And unfortunately its usually the innocent people who get hurt.
Best of luck to you, your daughter, and all the families affected. :(live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
SO sorry to hear about that Shawshank.
The laws are waaay to easy on drunk drivers.
I just saw today that a guy was convicted here in south Fla for manslaughter after pleading guilty to causing a crash that killed two people in a road race. He was 2x the legal limit drunk, and he got 10 yrs in jail! Fuck that man. He'll be out in a few years. He should be in for 25 fucking years guaranteed. its bullshit.Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
unsung wrote:Yeah. Ok I'll agree drunks are bad.
I'm not going to turn this political. So I better stay out because it's f-ing bs these mfers are allowed to stay here.
I hope the family gets through this. Pm me the memorial schooling fund so I can send a check.
F illegal alien sympathizers.
They're here because Americans pay them. Blaming the drug versus the user is freakin lame and oh so conveinent. So f those that blame others for thier vices.
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