5th grader turns in his parents

Drowned Out

Jeanwah wrote:

catefrances wrote:

its all very well congratulating the kid on having strength, but did the child do it out of spite? thats what i want to know.

Yeah, me too. The kid obviously knew full well what he was doing to his parents.

Did he tho? He was in the middle of a DARE program...
Even if he did do it out of spite, he probably doesn't realize just HOW serious it is...I'm betting that unless he is abused or has legit, desperate reasons to WANT out of his house, he will seriously regret this later in life, if he doesn't already.

DeLukin wrote:

The kid did the right thing. The law is the law. I'm sick of hearing how there should be exceptions when it comes to pot. There shouldn't be. It's a black and white issue. They broke the law, he turned them in, they got into trouble for it. I love how people say that everone else is wrong except the parents, who broke the law in the first place. If you're a parent and use illegal drugs, you aren't a very good parent IMO. Flame away if you must, but you're in the minority if you believe otherwise.

If the law is the law, I guess we might as well just stick with what's on the books right now, and give up any hope of evolution.
I'd also like to say that anyone who can pass blanket judgement on tens of millions of people in one fell swoop, based on weed use, would not make a very good parent either.

Eliot Rosewater

There are still too many things about this story that we don't know. But the kid should have never been in the position to even consider whether or not he should turn in his parents for illegal drug use. It's a sad situation but the parents are 100% to blame. If they can't outsmart an eleven year old where do they expect to end up in life anyway? If smoking was that big of a deal to them to risk losing their kids they should have at least been able to outwit a fifth grader to keep their kids in the dark about it.

pandora

For the boys sake, I hope it was a cry for help on the part himself and his siblings.
That they were, in truth, endangered by irresponsible parents.
Otherwise he will regret what he has done even if misguided and innocent.

Jason P

Drowned Out wrote:

Even if he did do it out of spite, he probably doesn't realize just HOW serious it is...I'm betting that unless he is abused or has legit, desperate reasons to WANT out of his house, he will seriously regret this later in life, if he doesn't already.

I imagine he will regret it as soon as his old man's belt meets the bare flesh of his behind

Drowned Out

Jason P wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Even if he did do it out of spite, he probably doesn't realize just HOW serious it is...I'm betting that unless he is abused or has legit, desperate reasons to WANT out of his house, he will seriously regret this later in life, if he doesn't already.

I imagine he will regret it as soon as his old man's belt meets the bare flesh of his behind

Let's hope that isn't what made him turn them in. :(

I'm kinda conflicted on the whole 'parents should have hid it better' thing....in fact, I'm somewhat conflicted on the entire topic of drug education with kids. Should we jump thru hoops to hide it from kids, but trust them not to steal from the liquor cabinet, or from our smoke packs? If a person disagrees that using pot makes you a de facto bad parent, using the shaky morality-based reasoning of illegality....what then?

Obviously, everyone should be encouraged to live a healthy lifestyle, esp until they're adults....But....Is it a parent's duty to, against their beliefs, teach the child to obey for the sake of obeying....? Or is it their duty to teach a kid to stand up for their beliefs? I personally think the possibility of appearing a hypocrite to kids, by hiding use while promoting the prohibitionist stance, has more potential for damage than maintaining an open dialogue about drugs, and allowing them to know you smoke the odd joint.

Cosmo

Doctor prescribed Ritalin is the gateway drug.

musicismylife78

why is no one stating the obvious. the kid wasnt taken out of the parents custody because the parents are users. more than likely the police, in a rare case of actually using their heads, were worried about the parents reaction to the kid turning them in. my guess is the parents werent like "oh well, he made a mistake, we forgive him". My guess is that they flew off the handle. can you imagine how fearful the kid must have been when his parents came to pick him up at school?

musicismylife78

another thing that boggles my mind is the majority of people posting here seem to be BLAMING THE KID! I mean really? No one knows anything beyond the basic skeleton facts about the case. Were the parents abusive? Were they users of other hard drugs? Did they use in front of their kid, or force him to use? We're they nice, loving parents, or mean, spiteful, horrific parents?

My parents and i disagree on everything. from what movies we like, the small stuff, to the big stuff, how to live our lives, what the meaning of life is, what being an adult means etc...

i feel no loyalty to my parents at all. we dont see eye to eye

eyedclaar

Sounds like another good reason to not have kids. Hell, even if I did, the little bastard would never have any free time away from the acid mine, so I'd have nothing to worry about.

Eliot Rosewater

musicismylife78 wrote:

another thing that boggles my mind is the majority of people posting here seem to be BLAMING THE KID! I mean really? No one knows anything beyond the basic skeleton facts about the case. Were the parents abusive? Were they users of other hard drugs? Did they use in front of their kid, or force him to use? We're they nice, loving parents, or mean, spiteful, horrific parents?

My parents and i disagree on everything. from what movies we like, the small stuff, to the big stuff, how to live our lives, what the meaning of life is, what being an adult means etc...

i feel no loyalty to my parents at all. we dont see eye to eye

I don't see at all how this could possibly be the kid's fault. While I am absolutely for the decriminalzation of weed, and don't think filling our jails and prisons with pot users is good, there is no way around blaming the parents 100% for this. They are adults for Christ's sake. And more than that they are parents....and whether or not you agree with them being arrested for this, just letting that ever be a possibility makes them less of parents. Obviously...now they can't even parent these kids, at least for the time being.

musicismylife78

additionally i think 11 year olds can despite the absurd notions put forth on this board, actually be capable of intelligent brain activity. A kid can love his parents and still feel doing drugs is flat out wrong. And given that paradox, what is right? Is being a silent accompliss the right thing? Its not neccesarily an either or like you all make it out to be.

Im straight edge. yet i know and love people who use. I remember hearing about pot for the first time in kindergarten. Kids were talking about it, and I thought they meant an actual pot, like a pot that holds plants. anyways even though i had a odd idea of what it was i knew it was wrong.

I persoanlly believe if the parents are found out to be non creepy parents, and no abuse went on, and drugs werent used openly, and they told their kids drugs are not good, then they shouldnt get in trouble.

and on the other side, I dont think the kid should get in trouble, no matter what. I can think of alot worse things 11 year olds could be doing than being antidrug. Isnt that what we should want for all young kids? Its fine if they want to do it as an adult, but i think its cool the kid is militantly antidrug. i am myself

Godfather.

OOOH BOY! how many ways to Sunday are we going to "what if" or "I wonder" this story ?
lets take bets on the follow up story.....me first.
I'll bet the parents started cutting in on Jr's customer base so Jr. rolled em up and ratted em out. :lolno:

Godfather.

acrossssSsssshittt

what a snitch... lil shit oughtta be spanked ..and officer tyrell needs to smoke a joint and chill the fuck out

Godfather.

acrossOceans wrote:

what a snitch... lil shit oughtta be spanked ..and officer tyrell needs to smoke a joint and chill the fuck out

Godfather.

acrossssSsssshittt

Godfather. wrote:

acrossOceans wrote:

what a snitch... lil shit oughtta be spanked ..and officer tyrell needs to smoke a joint and chill the fuck out

Godfather.

don't you know it Godfather.. all these years of bustin their humps and they can't seem to catch a break

chadwick

im sure some of the members of the rock band pearl jam smoke weed with their family & friends.
and it is most likely a very special and beautiful time for them.
they are hard working men.

what if one their kids snitched them off for smoking a spliff and relaxing poolside after a long & rigorous world tour?

funny how it is fine to be a falling down drunken prick and it's legal but one can't smoke bud without fear of the government grinding your nuts down for ya...

in fact i am not in 5th grade and it is a dream of mine to smoke with pearl jam.

DeLukin

Drowned Out wrote:

I'd also like to say that anyone who can pass blanket judgement on tens of millions of people in one fell swoop, based on weed use, would not make a very good parent either.

So that's worse than the 'do as I say, not as I do' methodology that apparently you subscribe to? Or how about 'rules are rules, son, as long as you agree with them.' That's ridiculous. You can't have it both ways. Either you're a good role model or you're not. Kids aren't stupid and if you don't think you'll severely handicap their ability to know right from wrong by breaking the law and then trying to raise them properly you're diluted.

Take them to a pro-pot rally, take them to a voting booth as you vote for pro-pot candidates, educate them on what's real vs what's Say No to Drugs propoganda, but as soon as you do it while it's still illegal your credibility as a role model is shot.
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DeLukin

chadwick wrote:

you are a funny lady

Right back at ya.

chadwick

it is illegal to smoke weed
instead
i think i will lovingly fondle gw's testicles

BinGnarly

Totally grounded.