Apple Making Verizon-Ready iPhone by Year End
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Apple Inc. plans to begin mass producing a new iPhone by the end of 2010 that would allow Verizon Wireless to sell the smartphone early next year, said people briefed by Apple.
The new iPhone would be similar in design to the iPhone 4 currently sold by AT&T Inc. but would be based on an alternative wireless technology called CDMA used by Verizon, these people said. The phone, for which Qualcomm Inc. is providing a key chip, is expected to be released in the first quarter of next year, according to the same people.
An Apple CDMA iPhone would spell the end of the exclusive U.S. arrangement with Apple that AT&T has had since 2007, when the original iPhone debuted.
Separately, Apple is also developing a new iPhone model, said people briefed on the matter. One person familiar with the new iPhone plan said the fifth-generation iPhone will be a different form factor from those that are currently available. It was unclear how soon that version will be available to Verizon.
Spokeswomen for Apple and Qualcomm declined to comment; a spokesman for Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC, declined to comment.
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The new iPhone would be similar in design to the iPhone 4 currently sold by AT&T Inc. but would be based on an alternative wireless technology called CDMA used by Verizon, these people said. The phone, for which Qualcomm Inc. is providing a key chip, is expected to be released in the first quarter of next year, according to the same people.
An Apple CDMA iPhone would spell the end of the exclusive U.S. arrangement with Apple that AT&T has had since 2007, when the original iPhone debuted.
Separately, Apple is also developing a new iPhone model, said people briefed on the matter. One person familiar with the new iPhone plan said the fifth-generation iPhone will be a different form factor from those that are currently available. It was unclear how soon that version will be available to Verizon.
Spokeswomen for Apple and Qualcomm declined to comment; a spokesman for Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC, declined to comment.
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me too but it is interesting
apple has to do something. Android is kicking some ass right now and is predicted to be #1 in short order. Before the new great phones (EVO, Droid X, Galaxy S) started popping up there wasn't much competition. Now that people have seen what can be done with a phone on a solid network, there is no reason to stay with att if the service sucks as much as they say.
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been hearing bout this for sometime now
i might either get this or a new blackberry touchscreen phone if they come out sometime next year
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Yeah, these rumors have been going around forever. I really want a new phone right now, but I'm going to hold out for this one...
the thing i'm worried about is the amount of att users that will switch to vzw and potentially bog down their network like has happened with att
won't be an issue for king of the hill users.
On the upside, verizon is in the process of increasing bandwidth with the LTE network being built out so it shouldn't be a major issue. it will be interesting to watch.
the next question...should we pick up some verizon or apple stock tommorrow?
With all the talk the past few years about ATT's shitty network, I'm sure Verizon will be prepared. At least I hope they will be..
i've had apple stock in my ira since 2000...before the ipod! current value is at 28,000! :P
:P
it's always nice to have big winners.
seems like if apple does get on verizon, there would be a nice little pop and same for verizon. i dug into verizon a little earlier this year. the seemed to be the best carrier to invest in. might be time to relook and pull the trigger on a small spot.
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#1 in what manner?
Customer satisfaction?
Units sold?
Units shipped?
Units in use/Operating market share?
OS market share of smartphones?
As a platform for 3rd party developers?
Profitability?
Amongst a particular demographic?
etc...
Something that gets overlooked by pretty much everyone is that the iPhone is just a platform for Apple's iOS. While Apple values the income from iPhones, the iPhone is only part of what they're really doing, which is creating iOS devices. Apple has the iPhone, iPad, and now the AppleTV as their OS share.
The metric that Apple really wants to be #1 in is profit margin. They are using (for the most part) the exact same components in all three of the devices I mentioned above which means the more devices they put out, the greater the profit margin is for them. It's a simple economy-of-scale advantage which they have over most, if not all, hardware manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc...) who don't have the same level of horizontal integration amongst their product line.
Does Google have more devices out there with their OS on them? I'm pretty sure they do. But if they're only making a fraction of what Apple is making (dollar wise) per unit, then who's the real winner?
And no, I'm not an Apple apologist of fanboy. I just see this line used a lot as some kind of metric for a pissing match which I don't think most people understand the fundamental nature of.
But that's just my opinion.
You make a good point.
My metric was % of market share for phones sold with a given operating system.
Yes Apple cares about profit, as does any company.
in the manner that in addition to verizon, you can also get it on sprint, t-mobile etc...if apple really wanted market share they wouldn't have gone exclusive to att...if they had, android would never have gained the huge acceptance they are getting
All completely true.
Having their products in all places at once has never been part of Apple's market strategy though (at least not since Jobs came back into the picture). They start off with their products in one place/area/region/store and then they expand their view slowly over time. This is what allows them to have such stellar sales performance figures over time. And, I would say, also why your stock is up 28,000x since purchasing it pre iPod.
Look at their release plan for the iPhone. They start off in a few select major consumer markets (US, UK, Germany, Canada, etc...) and then, over time, they put it up for sale in other countries. The iPhone 4 has been on sale in the US since July, but only went on sale in China (arguably the largest consumer market in the world) within the past month.
This strategy gives Apple sustainable sales and profit numbers instead of having an initial spike in interest/sales and then having it fall off of a cliff.
...however, right on the cusp of Verizon launching 4G - LTE service, iPhone is going to NOW start making CDMA phones? Aren't we now in the end-days of CDMA, with the switch beginning early 2011?
Any talk about whether these would be 4G / LTE compatible, in addition to CDMA?
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i'd guess all the new verizon phones will have two radios, well, 3 radio's if you include wifi. it shouldn't really be an issue. the EVO and EPIC both have multiple radios to handle 3g, wifi, and wimax (sprints 4g)
no not put it in wouldn't be very bright
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true but by the time the iphone came about, they didn't really need this strategy...nearly everyone wanted an iphone...they would have made a bigger killing by having it on different carriers...really the exclusivity only benefited att
regardless, it is interesting that they are announcing this at the same time verizon is announcing 4g/lte and the vzw iphone will be on the old technology
http://www.pcworld.com/article/206099/d ... tk=mod_rel
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
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i would assume they would but switches to turn them on and off like the EVO has.
don't believe everything a ceo says.
...if iPhone is available AND on 4G, I'm in. As long as I don't have to not-touch certain spots on the phone, or wear an aluminum hat to get reception.
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
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*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
ahhh good point
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