"But forget the politics: what moral theory allows these firefighters (admittedly acting under orders) to watch this house burn to the ground when 1) they have already responded to the scene; 2) they have the means to stop it ready at hand; 3) they have a reasonable expectation to be compensated for their trouble?" .
That's what gets me. Spoke to a neighbour who's a firefighter. He was appalled. He said no self-respecting firefighter would act that way. I remember during a firefighter strike here (note - even on strike they were responding to emergencies), he gathered the people in our neighbourhood, talked us through things, letting us know where the hydrants were and telling us he had a hose and ladder at his home. He also gave us the direct phone number of the local fire stations. None of the firefighters wanted anything bad to happen because of a political situation and union orders. Being a firefighter is not just a job, it's a vocation - I really can't get my mind around how these firefighters could just stand back and watch...
should have known those two douches were going to weigh in on it...funny they are defending the government and the $75 fee when they are so against government, fees, and taxes.... :roll:
i don't think i would piss on beck if he was on fire...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
should have known those two douches were going to weigh in on it...funny they are defending the government and the $75 fee when they are so against government, fees, and taxes.... :roll:
i don't think i would piss on beck if he was on fire...
The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do.
If I somehow think the right thing to do is not the Christian thing to do, then I am either confused about what is right or confused about Christianity, or both.
In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability.
The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do.
If I somehow think the right thing to do is not the Christian thing to do, then I am either confused about what is right or confused about Christianity, or both.
In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability.
What.
i am surprised they did not come right out and say jesus burnt the guy's house down..
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"The fire department was called when Gene Cranick’s grandson accidentally set his property on fire, but made no attempt to extinguish the flames, for the simple reason that they had no legal ormoral authority or responsibility to do so. When the fire endangered the property of Cranick’s neighbor, who had paid the $75 fee, the fire department swung into action and put out the fire on the neighbor’s property. Cranick’s home meanwhile, burned to the ground after his family had fled for safety. "
No moral responsibility? We ALL have a moral responsibility towards our fellow human beings, whether it's our job or not! Seems their 'moral responsibility' was set in motion for the neighbour who had paid. So moral responsibility = $ then? If my neighbour's house is on fire and I can do something, do I just stand by and watch it burn to ashes with her kitty in it because we haven't negotiated some form of payment/reward for my help?
"The fire department was called when Gene Cranick’s grandson accidentally set his property on fire, but made no attempt to extinguish the flames, for the simple reason that they had no legal ormoral authority or responsibility to do so. When the fire endangered the property of Cranick’s neighbor, who had paid the $75 fee, the fire department swung into action and put out the fire on the neighbor’s property. Cranick’s home meanwhile, burned to the ground after his family had fled for safety. "
No moral responsibility? We ALL have a moral responsibility towards our fellow human beings, whether it's our job or not! Seems their 'moral responsibility' was set in motion for the neighbour who had paid. So moral responsibility = $ then? If my neighbour's house is on fire and I can do something, do I just stand by and watch it burn to ashes with her kitty in it because we haven't negotiated some form of payment/reward for my help?
I don't know what 'morals' you think you have by letting 3 dogs and a cat burn to death for the sake of 75 dollars.
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That's what gets me. Spoke to a neighbour who's a firefighter. He was appalled. He said no self-respecting firefighter would act that way. I remember during a firefighter strike here (note - even on strike they were responding to emergencies), he gathered the people in our neighbourhood, talked us through things, letting us know where the hydrants were and telling us he had a hose and ladder at his home. He also gave us the direct phone number of the local fire stations. None of the firefighters wanted anything bad to happen because of a political situation and union orders. Being a firefighter is not just a job, it's a vocation - I really can't get my mind around how these firefighters could just stand back and watch...
How could they just stand there?? I couldn't live with myself, orders or no orders. :evil:
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i don't think i would piss on beck if he was on fire...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
turns out it is a christian thing to do
http://action.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147499026
some people really make me sick
The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do.
If I somehow think the right thing to do is not the Christian thing to do, then I am either confused about what is right or confused about Christianity, or both.
In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability.
What.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Which is the Christian thing.
Very ambiguous, I know.
Da roof, da roof, da roof is on fiyah!
We don't need no watah let the motha fakka burnnn...burnnn
No moral responsibility? We ALL have a moral responsibility towards our fellow human beings, whether it's our job or not! Seems their 'moral responsibility' was set in motion for the neighbour who had paid. So moral responsibility = $ then? If my neighbour's house is on fire and I can do something, do I just stand by and watch it burn to ashes with her kitty in it because we haven't negotiated some form of payment/reward for my help?