Obama Argues His Assassination Program Is A "State Secret"

catefrances

Godfather. wrote:

you guys kill me I make a simple statement simply put "if a person involves them selfs in things that can get them hurt or in trouble" then they very well could and at at the point the bottom line is that person should have never put them self in a position of trouble or harm, you forum genius's turn it in to a religious thing and a over blown mess adding and twisting as it goes along.......just freakin dandy. but I am not too surprised.

Godfather

well i didnt turn it into a religious thing. but you speak as if its a cut and dried thing when its not. you cant just disassociate yourself from people , especially people youve invested yourself in, purely cause they involve themselves in nefarious activities. all you can do is choose not to go that road yourself. though i suppose if your moral compass is put so far out of whack that what they do offends your sensibilites then sure by all means drop them.

Pepe Silvia

Godfather. wrote:

quote from pep "do you?? because according to your logic it would be perfectly acceptable to assassinate Jesus"

well pep welcome to the debate, this is the dumbest thing Ive seen you post but then again it's just like you to post something like this (always looking for the argument). have a nice day buddy.

Godfather.

is it? at least i can take pride in the fact that i didn't say anything stupid like you did in saying they can get their due process AFTER they have been killed!

anyway, it's just like you to make attacks instead of addressing the points.

and how is it stupid? i am taking it from this exchange:

Godfather. wrote:

catefrances wrote:

oh i see so its guilt by association then is it? superfantastic! :roll:

in some cases yes.....if someone is going to play the game they better know the rules.
in a bank robbery the get-a-way driver goes to prison too.....right ?

Godfather.

jesus was said to have hung out with some questionable people and according to you in some cases just being around a criminal is enough to get you killed so where do you draw that line?

Godfather.

Pepe Silvia wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

quote from pep "do you?? because according to your logic it would be perfectly acceptable to assassinate Jesus"

well pep welcome to the debate, this is the dumbest thing Ive seen you post but then again it's just like you to post something like this (always looking for the argument). have a nice day buddy.

Godfather.

is it? at least i can take pride in the fact that i didn't say anything stupid like you did in saying they can get their due process AFTER they have been killed!

anyway, it's just like you to make attacks instead of addressing the points.

and how is it stupid? i am taking it from this exchange:

Godfather. wrote:

catefrances wrote:

oh i see so its guilt by association then is it? superfantastic! :roll:

in some cases yes.....if someone is going to play the game they better know the rules.
in a bank robbery the get-a-way driver goes to prison too.....right ?

Godfather.

Jesus was said to have hung out with some questionable people and according to you in some cases just being around a criminal is enough to get you killed so where do you draw that line?

I never said after they were dead Pep and this"Jesus was said to have hung out with some questionable people and according to you in some cases just being around a criminal is enough to get you killed so where do you draw that line?[/quote]"
is this your only avenue for attack on my statement..by using my faith ? so again if you do not believe why would you use Jesus' name for an example ? makes no sense.
re-read my first post and think about it I am not off base with what I had posted it's when people add to and twist my post around that turns it into a go nowhere argument.

Godfather.

Godfather.

who is to blame for tigers problems.......
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/ ... test=faces

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I don't know. maybe his caddy, since he's close to him a lot of the time, he's dumb enough to hang out with him, he must be a cheater too.

Godfather. wrote:

who is to blame for tigers problems.......
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/ ... test=faces

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

no, you didn't say it "COULD" get them in trouble, you said they might get what they deserve/is coming to them. HUGE difference.

I brought up faith, if you notice, in a sarcastic manner, because it's such a significant part of most of your arguments. It wasn't my intent to put your faith on trial, I was merely drawing an interesting hypocritical stance as I saw it, given what you have spouted about in the past. it's not about your faith, it's about your past positions. if you can bring up faith ad nauseum, then so can I.

So why all of a sudden you aren't addressing our other points? Or the fact that you totally contradicted yourself and I called you on it?

Godfather. wrote:

you guys kill me I make a simple statement simply put "if a person involves them selfs in things that can get them hurt or in trouble" then they very well could and at at the point the bottom line is that person should have never put them self in a position of trouble or harm, you forum genius's turn it in to a religious thing and a over blown mess adding and twisting as it goes along.......just freakin dandy. but I am not too surprised.

Godfather

Godfather.

Paul David wrote:

no, you didn't say it "COULD" get them in trouble, you said they might get what they deserve/is coming to them. HUGE difference.

I brought up faith, if you notice, in a sarcastic manner, because it's such a significant part of most of your arguments. It wasn't my intent to put your faith on trial, I was merely drawing an interesting hypocritical stance as I saw it, given what you have spouted about in the past. it's not about your faith, it's about your past positions. if you can bring up faith ad nauseum, then so can I.

So why all of a sudden you aren't addressing our other points? Or the fact that you totally contradicted yourself and I called you on it?

Godfather. wrote:

you guys kill me I make a simple statement simply put "if a person involves them selfs in things that can get them hurt or in trouble" then they very well could and at at the point the bottom line is that person should have never put them self in a position of trouble or harm, you forum genius's turn it in to a religious thing and a over blown mess adding and twisting as it goes along.......just freakin dandy. but I am not too surprised.

Godfather

my point in my first post was pretty simple really, to me it's a bottom line simple idea,"everything we do and places we go and people we meet bring us to where we are at today it's about the choices we have made in our liefs that ultimately bring us to this day.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

my point in my first post was pretty simple really, to me it's a bottom line simple idea,"everything we do and places we go and people we meet bring us to where we are at today it's about the choices we have made in our liefs that ultimately bring us to this day.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Paul David wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

my point in my first post was pretty simple really, to me it's a bottom line simple idea,"everything we do and places we go and people we meet bring us to where we are at today it's about the choices we have made in our liefs that ultimately bring us to this day.

Godfather.

that was good. I take it you disagree with my thought.

Godfather.

Pepe Silvia

Godfather. wrote:

is this your only avenue for attack on my statement..by using my faith ? so again if you do not believe why would you use Jesus' name for an example ? makes no sense.
re-read my first post and think about it I am not off base with what I had posted it's when people add to and twist my post around that turns it into a go nowhere argument.

Godfather.

nice deflection :roll:

i brought up jesus not because of your faith, you poor, poor martyr, you, but because it's a valid point. YOU said:
"a old friend of mine used to say " if you wanna be known as a crook then hang out with crooks". and then you will get what crooks deserve.....right ?"

jesus hung out with questionable people so in your mind he would deserve to be treated badly

try to follow me here

this is a thread about an assassination program, if you didn't know that means to KILL someone

YOU said:

"ya know what come to think of it.....most maybe all of the people killed in a situation such as this uselly set them selfs up for what they have received by becoming involved in a life style they know can turn bad, a old friend of mine used to say " if you wanna be known as a crook then hang out with crooks". and then you will get what crooks deserve.....right ?

Godfather."

to which paul david brought up due process to which you replied:

"I said nothing about due process..that comes after."

so what did you mean by 'after'??