Obama Argues His Assassination Program Is A "State Secret"

Hugh Freaking Dillon

not smart enough for what? not smart enough to never speak to my own family because of their choice of profession? i thought the godfather was all about the family??? is this what you have learned from Jesus' teachings? abandon thy brother in thoust face of dost adversity? is that the 11th, lesser-known commandment?

your analogy makes absolutely no sense in the real world, GF.

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

so by your logic, if my brother is a gang banger, and I happen to be out for coffee with him when he gets busted, and I get thrown in jail, or even shot in the process, it's my fault?

:?

and by your logic...
you're saying that your not smart enough to know better ? so yes by all means it's your fault, do you remember the old saying "if you play with fire you'er going to get burned".

Godfather.

Commy

Paul David wrote:

not smart enough for what? not smart enough to never speak to my own family because of their choice of profession? i thought the godfather was all about the family??? is this what you have learned from Jesus' teachings? abandon thy brother in thoust face of dost adversity? is that the 11th, lesser-known commandment?

your analogy makes absolutely no sense in the real world, GF.

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

so by your logic, if my brother is a gang banger, and I happen to be out for coffee with him when he gets busted, and I get thrown in jail, or even shot in the process, it's my fault?

:?

and by your logic...
you're saying that your not smart enough to know better ? so yes by all means it's your fault, do you remember the old saying "if you play with fire you'er going to get burned".

Godfather.

i think the 11th commandment was...


~Everyone has to give Moses $5.~


you might be right tho

Godfather.

Cate it's you and Paul that need to open your eyes to the real world, no offense to both of you but I explained
how it really is,those are the facts there is nothing made up about what I have posted.

Godfather.

satansbed

It may be just something he has to do, can i ask how many here are familiar with Machiavelli's writings??

Godfather.

Paul David wrote:

not smart enough for what? not smart enough to never speak to my own family because of their choice of profession? i thought the godfather was all about the family??? is this what you have learned from Jesus' teachings? abandon thy brother in thoust face of dost adversity? is that the 11th, lesser-known commandment?

your analogy makes absolutely no sense in the real world, GF.

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

so by your logic, if my brother is a gang banger, and I happen to be out for coffee with him when he gets busted, and I get thrown in jail, or even shot in the process, it's my fault?

:?

and by your logic...
you're saying that your not smart enough to know better ? so yes by all means it's your fault, do you remember the old saying "if you play with fire you'er going to get burned".

Godfather.

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

hey, I wasn't "attacking your faith". if you can use your faith in your arguments, which you do quite often, I can question it in mine. I don't understand how someone who follows the teachings of Christ can honestly say that if I get shot while SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL I got what I deserved. that is BEYOND ludicrous.

answer: C: none of the above. I wouldn't ever hold his gun for him. I never have, and I never would.

Godfather. wrote:

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Paul David wrote:

hey, I wasn't "attacking your faith". if you can use your faith in your arguments, which you do quite often, I can question it in mine. I don't understand how someone who follows the teachings of Christ can honestly say that if I get shot while SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL I got what I deserved. that is BEYOND ludicrous.

answer: C: none of the above. I wouldn't ever hold his gun for him. I never have, and I never would.

Godfather. wrote:

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

do you have faith(believe in God) , serious question I am just wondering and not looking for argument.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Paul David wrote:

hey, I wasn't "attacking your faith". if you can use your faith in your arguments, which you do quite often, I can question it in mine. I don't understand how someone who follows the teachings of Christ can honestly say that if I get shot while SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL I got what I deserved. that is BEYOND ludicrous.

answer: C: none of the above. I wouldn't ever hold his gun for him. I never have, and I never would.

Godfather. wrote:

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

you have changed my post,I never said just "SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL" .

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

you know the answer to that one, GF. But to review, I am agnostic.

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

hey, I wasn't "attacking your faith". if you can use your faith in your arguments, which you do quite often, I can question it in mine. I don't understand how someone who follows the teachings of Christ can honestly say that if I get shot while SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL I got what I deserved. that is BEYOND ludicrous.

answer: C: none of the above. I wouldn't ever hold his gun for him. I never have, and I never would.

Godfather. wrote:

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

do you have faith(believe in God) , serious question I am just wondering and not looking for argument.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

um, yes,actually, you did. it wasn't that long ago:

Godfather. wrote:

you have changed my post,I never said just "SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL" .
Godfather.

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

so by your logic, if my brother is a gang banger, and I happen to be out for coffee with him when he gets busted, and I get thrown in jail, or even shot in the process, it's my fault?

:?

and by your logic...
you're saying that your not smart enough to know better ? so yes by all means it's your fault, do you remember the old saying "if you play with fire you'er going to get burned".

Godfather.

catefrances

Godfather. wrote:

Cate it's you and Paul that need to open your eyes to the real world, no offense to both of you but I explained
how it really is,those are the facts there is nothing made up about what I have posted.

Godfather.

amazing how you think you know me and the life ive lead.

Pepe Silvia

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

you said MOST OR MAYBE ALL of the people killed in a situation such as this.....will get what they deserve. What exactly did you mean by that then?

Godfather. wrote:

ya know what come to think of it.....most maybe all of the people killed in a situation such as this uselly set them selfs up for what they have received by becoming involved in a life style they know can turn bad, a old friend of mine used to say " if you wanna be known as a crook then hang out with crooks". and then you will get what crooks deserve.....right ?

Godfather.

Godfather. wrote:

you have got to be kidding right ??? wtf ? did I say get rid of due process ??? :crazy: :crazy:

Godfather.

"most maybe all of the people killed in a situation such as this usually set them selfs up for what they have received by becoming involved in a life style they know can turn bad"

I said nothing about due process..that comes after.
like said earlier if a person involves them self in something dangerous even just stepping slightly in that circle they set them selfs up for the consequences that are in that circle, for instance if you admire the biker life but don't have the balls to be a biker and befriend a real biker and hang around with him and his friends go for rides parties etc. and a bust comes down on your new friend while you are with him or another club trys to hurt him and your there...guess what.. you just went jail or got your ass beat or worse because YOU put your self in that circle, then you'll be late for work on Monday.
that's all I was saying.

Godfather.

due process comes after.....they are dead???? that doesn't sound very reassuring...

Pepe Silvia

Godfather. wrote:

Paul David wrote:

hey, I wasn't "attacking your faith". if you can use your faith in your arguments, which you do quite often, I can question it in mine. I don't understand how someone who follows the teachings of Christ can honestly say that if I get shot while SITTING NEXT TO A CRIMINAL I got what I deserved. that is BEYOND ludicrous.

answer: C: none of the above. I wouldn't ever hold his gun for him. I never have, and I never would.

Godfather. wrote:

you may never know and thats good but should the time come and you find your self in trouble just by a simple
case of guilt by association then you will understand.
also there you go attacking my faith some of you people on this forum just amaze me...if thats all you have to come back at me with then inside you know I am right in what I have stated.BTW a quick question: if your brother (the gang banger) asked you to hold his gun and all the sudden a bust happens..would you say "it's not mine ..it's my brothers or would you say it's mine and go to jail for your brother ? ...just curious.

Godfather.

do you have faith(believe in God) , serious question I am just wondering and not looking for argument.

Godfather.

do you?? because according to your logic it would be perfectly acceptable to assassinate jesus

Eliot Rosewater

Pepe Silvia wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Political assassinations of civilians is already oogey enough.
It's super oogey when they are citizens of your own country.

Obama sure is doing a number on his own popularity.
He already shot his credibility in the foot (or face, i'd argue), why not go ahead and kill his voter base too?
What a goof.

i bet their won't be a shortage of people supporting him next election

You're probably right. Because the average American voter = Clueless, lazy, and stuck on choosing the "lesser of two evils".

Obama is a piece of shit. Idiocracy, here we come!

Pepe Silvia

the point that seems to be getting lost, at least for godfather, is where is the accountability and oversight? oh, there isn't any and won't be any.

if we take his 'gang banger' logic and guilt by association and 'should've been smart enough to know better' and say a cop shoots someone there is supposed to be a panel that investigates the shooting, some times there are even civil and criminal trials....the difference with this is we just have to take them at their word.

i'm sorry, but how can you think all/most/some politicians are liars and corrupt and be so willing to give power like this to ANYONE!?!?

so, maybe you think you can trust obama not to abuse this, cool, but what if someone you dislike and don't trust wins, what then? you've already set the precedent in allowing it to happen.

Godfather.

catefrances wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Cate it's you and Paul that need to open your eyes to the real world, no offense to both of you but I explained
how it really is,those are the facts there is nothing made up about what I have posted.

Godfather.

amazing how you think you know me and the life ive lead.

yeah sure cate what ever you say.

Godfather.

Godfather.

quote from pep "do you?? because according to your logic it would be perfectly acceptable to assassinate Jesus"

well pep welcome to the debate, this is the dumbest thing Ive seen you post but then again it's just like you to post something like this (always looking for the argument). have a nice day buddy.

Godfather.

catefrances

Godfather. wrote:

catefrances wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Cate it's you and Paul that need to open your eyes to the real world, no offense to both of you but I explained
how it really is,those are the facts there is nothing made up about what I have posted.

Godfather.

amazing how you think you know me and the life ive lead.

yeah sure cate what ever you say.

Godfather.

yeah sure no offense. my eyes are wide open. i understand how it is and i understand how it should be.

i crtainly never said or even intimated anything you said wasnt facts. what i objected to was the inference that just by associating with criminals made one a criminal. the facts as i know them are that is simply not true. but of course my facts are purely anecdotal. they may not be written in stone and corroboraed by science but as i know it, cause was there, theyre facts. yet my father always told me a fact is a lie and a half... so there you go.

Godfather.

you guys kill me I make a simple statement simply put "if a person involves them selfs in things that can get them hurt or in trouble" then they very well could and at at the point the bottom line is that person should have never put them self in a position of trouble or harm, you forum genius's turn it in to a religious thing and a over blown mess adding and twisting as it goes along.......just freakin dandy. but I am not too surprised.

Godfather

Godfather.

BTW good morning Cate.

Godfather.