Your tax dollars at work

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    here is some more wasted tax dollars...

    Godfather.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/im ... ts-reform/

    http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/r ... -and-abuse

    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongres ... esspay.htm

    http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Ta ... ryDay.aspx
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,435
    f-35. one of the biggest money pits in military history....


    AIR_F-35_JSF_On_Tarmac_lg.jpg
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this is your FDA raiding a raw milk food club ... that's right folks - the guns are drawn in case those crazy raw milk drinkers come out double fisted ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jgpGyyQW8
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    puremagic wrote:
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,435
    Jason P wrote:
    puremagic wrote:
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.
    if a corporation is going to profit from providing goods to americans and operate/be headquartered on american soil then they should pay their share of taxes on the income they generate. they should not be allowed to profit, profit, profit without paying their share of taxes.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.

    sure it was ... who do you think the gov't is paying to accrue all these debts!??
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    puremagic wrote:
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.
    if a corporation is going to profit from providing goods to americans and operate/be headquartered on american soil then they should pay their share of taxes on the income they generate. they should not be allowed to profit, profit, profit without paying their share of taxes.
    It's still beside the point. Government did the spending. Corporations paid taxes by the standards the government set. The government knew how much revenue they were taking in and they knew how much they have been spending.

    Government controls how much is spent.

    Government controls how much is taken in.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    government = corporation ...

    why do you think there are loopholes for corporations like haliburton from having to adhere to the clean water act? ... why do you think corporations routinely violate environmental regulations and laws? ... why do you think the US is in Iraq?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    puremagic wrote:
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.


    yes, everything is simple...

    Corporations = love...
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    It's still beside the point. Government did the spending. Corporations paid taxes by the standards the government set. The government knew how much revenue they were taking in and they knew how much they have been spending.

    Government controls how much is spent.

    Government controls how much is taken in.

    and Gov't can set new standards for Corporations to pay more in taxes...and control how much is taken in therefore they can raise taxes to cover what is spent...

    simple...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.

    sure it was ... who do you think the gov't is paying to accrue all these debts!??
    My main point exactly. The government controls purse. They make the decisions.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.

    sure it was ... who do you think the gov't is paying to accrue all these debts!??
    My main point exactly. The government controls purse. They make the decisions.

    the corporations are the government
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    inmytree wrote:

    and Gov't can set new standards for Corporations to pay more in taxes...and control how much is taken in therefore they can raise taxes to cover what is spent...

    simple...
    But the government didn't set standards and they have known about the deficit for .... well as long as I can remember.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    and Gov't can set new standards for Corporations to pay more in taxes...and control how much is taken in therefore they can raise taxes to cover what is spent...

    simple...
    But the government didn't set standards and they have known about the deficit for .... well as long as I can remember.

    and Obama wants to address it by cutting spending and raising revenue...

    are you saying that since it wasn't addressed before, it can't be addressed now... :?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    f-35. one of the biggest money pits in military history....


    AIR_F-35_JSF_On_Tarmac_lg.jpg
    An excellent reason why we should not support giving the government more money.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    inmytree wrote:

    and Obama wants to address it by cutting spending and raising revenue...

    are you saying that since it wasn't addressed before, it can't be addressed now... :?
    I'm not missing any points anyone is making. But the way I process it is that everything points back to the annual budget that congress approves. They know and have known they are outspending their revenue for years now. I don't see any indication that they have learned their lesson. The only thing they know is that they have finally hit the extreme limit of debt and now they are in trouble.

    Why didn't they address it last year? Or the year before? Why did it take a debt limit to force the issue? And why does the taxpayer have to chip in to fix their fuck-up? And why are people OK with that concept?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    and Obama wants to address it by cutting spending and raising revenue...

    are you saying that since it wasn't addressed before, it can't be addressed now... :?
    I'm not missing any points anyone is making. But the way I process it is that everything points back to the annual budget that congress approves. They know and have known they are outspending their revenue for years now. I don't see any indication that they have learned their lesson. The only thing they know is that they have finally hit the extreme limit of debt and now they are in trouble.

    Why didn't they address it last year? Or the year before? Why did it take a debt limit to force the issue? And why does the taxpayer have to chip in to fix their fuck-up? And why are people OK with that concept?

    you speak of the gov't as if it were a single person that you want to give a nice stern talking to...and funny how the debt limit is suddenly the the single biggest issue ever...

    the reason we are in the mess is unfunded wars and tax cuts (lack of revenue to cover spending for silly things like roads, schools, police, natural disasters)...

    it's as if you're bitching to the waitstaff after you received your check for a big meal...

    time to pay up...it's that simple...
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Jason P wrote:
    puremagic wrote:
    If people are so pissed, why oppose raising the taxes on these Corporations? Why oppose closing the loopholes that give these and other such Corporations taxpayer subsidies? Why oppose trade laws that limited outsourcing? People keep wanting to point the finger at the President, but he is not the one outsourcing jobs. He’s not the one sitting up factories in China, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.
    Simple. Because it wasn't the Corporations that authorized spending the money that put the nation in debt.


    You want to be specific, because we didn’t get to this point in the budget or economic crisis overnight?
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    inmytree wrote:
    it's as if you're bitching to the waitstaff after you received your check for a big meal...

    time to pay up...it's that simple...
    In that scenario (if I represent the government), I would just go over to the nearest table, whack a patron (taxpayer) in the head with a black-jack, steal their wallet, and then go pay the waiter (China).
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!

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