the Pledge

Gonzo1977

scb wrote:

yahamita wrote:

Its a reminder to Obama and his gangsters since they are NOT familiar with our Constitution...

Yeah... the Constitutional law professor is not at all familiar with the Constitution. :roll:

Ha Ha !!! awesome!!!

I think the majority of these teabaggers and right wing waterheads have mistaken The Constitution
for The Bible

pretty hilarious.

Electric_Delta

Gonzo1977 wrote:

scb wrote:

yahamita wrote:

Its a reminder to Obama and his gangsters since they are NOT familiar with our Constitution...

Yeah... the Constitutional law professor is not at all familiar with the Constitution. :roll:

Ha Ha !!! awesome!!!

I think the majority of these teabaggers and right wing waterheads have mistaken The Constitution
for The Bible

pretty hilarious.

Call it what you will, but the Constitution sure has benefitted us well...including you, I'm sure.

Cosmo

blackredyellow wrote:

I just started reading this thing (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Secti ... agenda.pdf), and it just reeks of irony... some of the statements/pledges make it seem like they have the shortest memory in the world... Most of these fucks who are trumpeting this plan were in office when the GOP had control of the government, and they want us to believe that they have any credibility when calling for reducing spending, transparent government, over-reaching government, etc...

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Do you mean this part?:
"In a self-governing society, the only bulwark against the power of the state is the consent of the governed, and regarding the policies of the current government, the governed do not consent.

An unchecked executive, a compliant legislature, and an overreaching judiciary have combined to thwart the will of the people and overturn their votes and their values, striking down longstanding laws and institutions and scorning the deepest beliefs of the American people.

An arrogant and out-of-touch government of self-appointed elites makes decisions, issues mandates, and enacts laws without accepting or requesting the input of the many."
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Who was the guy that called himself, 'The Decider'? Didn't he say he didn't care what polls (taken from what american citizens were saying) said? And wasn't the Congress of Tom Delay (and his boss, Jack Abramoff) is control of the purse strings?
Don't any of them have a memory that goes past 2009?

norm

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-s ... the-pledge

Cosmo

unsung wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

As far as the contract goes from 94...at least we got a balanced budget and debt reduction under clinton and the republican house...hopefully we can get the same thing here although I doubt it.

I doubt it too but only because of the wars and the amount of spending that is going on.


This does make me wonder about something. Would you guys support charging politicians with perjury if they voted for anti-Constitutional laws? They swore an oath to defend the Constitution. I'm thinking this would be a good way to straighten out ALL politicians.

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It isn't going to happen because of the political polarization that exists today. There would be complete gridlock and nothing would ever get done.
As for the Constitution question posed... they are part of the process and procedure that the Constitution defines. They can pass a law, but if it is deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it is stricken from the books. that is the checks and balances put in place to ensure that one Branch does not hold all of the power.
To hold lawmakers criminally liable for legislating laws... is unconstitutional.

arthurdent

Fact-checking the Pledge:
http://factcheck.org/2010/09/factchecki ... index.html

Summary

The Republican “Pledge to America,” released Sept. 23, contains some dubious factual claims:

* It declares that “the only parts of the economy expanding are government and our national debt.” Not true. So far this year government employment has declined slightly, while private sector employment has increased by 763,000 jobs.
* It says that “jobless claims continue to soar,” when in fact they are down eight percent from their worst levels.
* It repeats a bogus assertion that the Internal Revenue Service may need to expand by 16,500 positions, an inflated estimate based on false assumptions and guesswork.
* It claims the stimulus bill is costing $1 trillion, considerably more than the $814 billion, 10-year price tag currently estimated by nonpartisan congressional budget experts.
* It says Obama’s tax proposals would raise taxes on “roughly half the small business income in America,” an exaggeration. Much of the income the GOP is counting actually comes from big businesses making over $50 million a year.

For details on these and other examples please read on to the Analysis section.