the Pledge
mikepegg44
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Kind of interesting...sure seems like a lot of common sense in there, but this line stuck with me
"We will require that every bill contain a citation of Constitutional authority. We will give all Representatives and citizens at least three days to read the bill before a vote."
Strange that this needs to be pointed out. shouldn't this always have been the policy? To actually read things before they are voted on...
anyone have any thoughts after having read it?
"We will require that every bill contain a citation of Constitutional authority. We will give all Representatives and citizens at least three days to read the bill before a vote."
Strange that this needs to be pointed out. shouldn't this always have been the policy? To actually read things before they are voted on...
anyone have any thoughts after having read it?
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Kinda reminds me of "W" and the Patriot Act
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in what way does it remind you of that?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
it's just another "do as I say not as I do" statement. It's meaningless coming from anything associated with the GOP.
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because it was 4billion pages long and they only had like 2 days to read it
obviously no one actually read it
have you seen some of the stupid shit in there
not even related to terrorism??
Yeah... the Constitutional law professor is not at all familiar with the Constitution. :roll:
I agree. He has to know what is being shit on before the shitting actually starts.
Pros
• Small business tax deduction equal to 20% of income
• Tax breaks for every bracket
• Roll back government spending by $100M in first year
• Establish budget caps
• End bailouts
• Cut Congress’ budget
• Enact medical liability reform
• Able to purchase health care across state lines
Cons
• More money for defense
• Repeal health care plan (although if they have a plan to replace it, then this will be a pro)
• It doesn’t address term limits in fixing Congress
• It doesn’t address Social Security (20% of Federal Budget)
• It doesn’t address Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP (20% of federal budget)
• They say Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile by 2015 to justify funding a missile defense program. I say bullshit. Did you see their golden unmanned drone??? These same guys will have a ballistic missile in four years? I wonder if it will be made out of gold also . . .
My biggest issue is that three largest sources of federal spending (defense, medicare, social security), two of them are not addressed, and the one that is addressed (defense) looks like it will see a significant increase spending.
I didn't read the pledge so forgive me if I am misunderstanding your post but 100 million? That is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
I haven't read it yet, because I cannot download it at work...
But, didn't we get a 'Contract With America' in 1994 that was the same thing? And what did we get when we finally got a Republican Controlled government?
Two Wars, the creation of the largest government agency, warrantless Government intrusion, the dismantling of FEMA and an unregulated Wall Street that nearly caused a Depression, whose consequences we are still dealing with.
Hail, Hail!!!
Yeah... $100 million... wow... don't strain yourselves republicans. And defense rising goes up, I wonder if they set that a side differently or if they just really cut other programs to get a net reduction of $100 million. And I like them cutting taxes, but if they are only cutting spending $100 million, it's going to fuck us more than we are now.
"Enact medical liability reform" - that always sounds like a great idea until people start putting out details about the plans.
"Able to purchase health care across state lines" - I still don't get how this will help the cost of insurance at all. No doctors offices will suddenly accept a hundred other plans that are out there. And all it will do is consolidate companies into more ones that are "too big to fail".
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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They roll up their sleeves, have this event at a hardware store and POOF!!! the republicans are all for the common man.
Where the hell were these assholes during the years 2001-2009?
D.C. makes me sick.
P.S. I am a pacifist, but I want to fight Eric Cantor.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
hit the nail on the head. That is some damn propaganda machine that the Republicans have.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
I will say, I am all for the 10th amendment becoming the rule by which the federal government is run...considering it is the rule by which federal government should be run.
As far as the contract goes from 94...at least we got a balanced budget and debt reduction under clinton and the republican house...hopefully we can get the same thing here although I doubt it.
Anyone have a gif of John Boehner saying show me the money...cuz all I can think about is Jerry Maguire and his little memo...lot's of great words but very little plan.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I doubt it too but only because of the wars and the amount of spending that is going on.
This does make me wonder about something. Would you guys support charging politicians with perjury if they voted for anti-Constitutional laws? They swore an oath to defend the Constitution. I'm thinking this would be a good way to straighten out ALL politicians.
that is a good idea, it should be a crime to knowingly lie on the campaign trail, but the voting for a law that is ultimately found unconstitutional is rather difficult to prove simply because of interpretation.
They are just trying to jump on the bandwagon and get support. what will ultimately happen is they will take over and send a bunch of bills to obama and he will veto them. Then they can say...see we tried.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Heard it all before...Cause it's basically just another hybrid plagerized versions of Newt's
"Contract on America"
It's like 1994 all over again...only 100 times more stupid and out of touch.
It amazes me what little respect this delusional band of cowboy shysters have for the American People...
This would actually be good comedy if it wasn't so goddamn scary.
Maybe the average American is as stupid as the Repubicans think...How else could anyone get behind:
1) Cutting taxes to the richest 1%
2) Raising taxes on the middle class
3) Repealing Heath Care Reform
4) Privatizing Social Security
5) Doing away with Unemployment insurance
6) Doing away Medicare
7) Limiting the rights of Gays
8) Limiting a Womens Right to Choose
9) Cutting funds to Education
10) Cutting funds to inastructure and "Essential Services"
11) Cuts to research and development for Medical and Science
12) Further ignore the need for Green Energy
13) Increase military spending
14) Increase deep water offshore drilling
15) Increase racial profiling
16) deregulation of Wall Street
17)dergulation of Corporations
Ha Ha !!! awesome!!!
I think the majority of these teabaggers and right wing waterheads have mistaken The Constitution
for The Bible
pretty hilarious.
Call it what you will, but the Constitution sure has benefitted us well...including you, I'm sure.
Do you mean this part?:
"In a self-governing society, the only bulwark against the power of the state is the consent of the governed, and regarding the policies of the current government, the governed do not consent.
An unchecked executive, a compliant legislature, and an overreaching judiciary have combined to thwart the will of the people and overturn their votes and their values, striking down longstanding laws and institutions and scorning the deepest beliefs of the American people.
An arrogant and out-of-touch government of self-appointed elites makes decisions, issues mandates, and enacts laws without accepting or requesting the input of the many."
...
Who was the guy that called himself, 'The Decider'? Didn't he say he didn't care what polls (taken from what american citizens were saying) said? And wasn't the Congress of Tom Delay (and his boss, Jack Abramoff) is control of the purse strings?
Don't any of them have a memory that goes past 2009?
Hail, Hail!!!
It isn't going to happen because of the political polarization that exists today. There would be complete gridlock and nothing would ever get done.
As for the Constitution question posed... they are part of the process and procedure that the Constitution defines. They can pass a law, but if it is deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it is stricken from the books. that is the checks and balances put in place to ensure that one Branch does not hold all of the power.
To hold lawmakers criminally liable for legislating laws... is unconstitutional.
Hail, Hail!!!
http://factcheck.org/2010/09/factchecki ... index.html
Summary
The Republican “Pledge to America,” released Sept. 23, contains some dubious factual claims:
* It declares that “the only parts of the economy expanding are government and our national debt.” Not true. So far this year government employment has declined slightly, while private sector employment has increased by 763,000 jobs.
* It says that “jobless claims continue to soar,” when in fact they are down eight percent from their worst levels.
* It repeats a bogus assertion that the Internal Revenue Service may need to expand by 16,500 positions, an inflated estimate based on false assumptions and guesswork.
* It claims the stimulus bill is costing $1 trillion, considerably more than the $814 billion, 10-year price tag currently estimated by nonpartisan congressional budget experts.
* It says Obama’s tax proposals would raise taxes on “roughly half the small business income in America,” an exaggeration. Much of the income the GOP is counting actually comes from big businesses making over $50 million a year.
For details on these and other examples please read on to the Analysis section.
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