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    FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Firstly, it's silly to generalize and characterize the "entire left" by a few people... and secondly, what exactly does "dabble in marxism" mean? How does a person go about experimentation in communism? You love to throw around these type of terms but it really is nothing more than catch phrases with no real meaning. So please explain further for clarification and specifics so we can understand what you're claiming or saying.

    prfctlefts wrote:
    All of you had no problem when biden was a senator from Deleware so maybe I should remind some of you just how smart our vice president is and his character.But at least O'Donnell didn't kill anybody at Chappaquiddick (Ted Kennedy), join the Ku Klux Klan (Bob Byrd), "allegedly" commit rape (Bill Clinton), or, like Harry Reid's pet, Chris Coons, dabbled in Marxism and Oh yeah and what about your Messiah Obama and his drug years..
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    Jason P wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    18 months some of you on here said that we would never grow into anything that would ever make a difference or something like we would never be able to get anyone elected. Looks like you were wrong. :D

    You should never underestimate the results when a group of well educated and responsible people finally get fed up to the point that they turn to political activism. A lot of people are in denial of the Tea Party's impact.


    I know... it's more and more apparent everyday just how stubborn 95% of the people on this forum are sometimes. What they are forgetting and ignoring is history. Deleware has been a red state several times in the past.Both the RINOS and their Democratic counterparts have been showing sneering contempt for the voters for a long time and they are about to pay dearly for it. They have kicked the voters in the face for far too long a time and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
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    FiveB247x wrote:
    Firstly, it's silly to generalize and characterize the "entire left" by a few people... and secondly, what exactly does "dabble in marxism" mean? How does a person go about experimentation in communism? You love to throw around these type of terms but it really is nothing more than catch phrases with no real meaning. So please explain further for clarification and specifics so we can understand what you're claiming or saying.

    prfctlefts wrote:
    All of you had no problem when biden was a senator from Deleware so maybe I should remind some of you just how smart our vice president is and his character.But at least O'Donnell didn't kill anybody at Chappaquiddick (Ted Kennedy), join the Ku Klux Klan (Bob Byrd), "allegedly" commit rape (Bill Clinton), or, like Harry Reid's pet, Chris Coons, dabbled in Marxism and Oh yeah and what about your Messiah Obama and his drug years..


    Pardon me I meant BEARDED MARXIST..

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36726.html
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    satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,138
    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Firstly, it's silly to generalize and characterize the "entire left" by a few people... and secondly, what exactly does "dabble in marxism" mean? How does a person go about experimentation in communism? You love to throw around these type of terms but it really is nothing more than catch phrases with no real meaning. So please explain further for clarification and specifics so we can understand what you're claiming or saying.

    prfctlefts wrote:
    All of you had no problem when biden was a senator from Deleware so maybe I should remind some of you just how smart our vice president is and his character.But at least O'Donnell didn't kill anybody at Chappaquiddick (Ted Kennedy), join the Ku Klux Klan (Bob Byrd), "allegedly" commit rape (Bill Clinton), or, like Harry Reid's pet, Chris Coons, dabbled in Marxism and Oh yeah and what about your Messiah Obama and his drug years..


    Pardon me I meant BEARDED MARXIST..

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36726.html
    oh wow an article written twenty years ago wow :roll:
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    My point exactly...
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    quick....to the deflection mobile...


    she is bat sh!t crazy!!!!! after watching all the tea party parties. She is perfect for them.
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    kenny olav wrote:
    Heheheh... the Daily Show is brilliant as always on this topic...

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-s ... -the-palin


    Shit, I didn't realize there was so much material to be used to mock Ms. O'Donnell. Maybe the Democrats won't fuck this one up after all.

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    gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    I would like to say I don't have the time to worry about a wing nut wacko like her or Palin if I didn't deep down feel like they have a fighting chance of winning a general election. 'Murricans do love their fire and brimstone. We re-elected George W Bush for Christ's sake. We could elect anyone that scares up enough angry white folk.
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,147
    she'll fit right in with the rest of the criminals in congress


    Mr. Keegan explained that in 2009, when Ms. O'Donnell was out of money, she paid her landlord, Brent Vasher, two months rent out of her campaign funds. On FEC forms, Ms. O'Donnell called the expenditures "expense reimbursements." Mr. Keegan also attested that Ms. O'Donnell routinely used campaign funds for meals and gas, and even a bowling outing. This is not surprising given that Ms. O'Donnell has not held a steady job or had a discernable source of income for many years.

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    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Firstly, it's silly to generalize and characterize the "entire left" by a few people... and secondly, what exactly does "dabble in marxism" mean? How does a person go about experimentation in communism? You love to throw around these type of terms but it really is nothing more than catch phrases with no real meaning. So please explain further for clarification and specifics so we can understand what you're claiming or saying.

    prfctlefts wrote:
    All of you had no problem when biden was a senator from Deleware so maybe I should remind some of you just how smart our vice president is and his character.But at least O'Donnell didn't kill anybody at Chappaquiddick (Ted Kennedy), join the Ku Klux Klan (Bob Byrd), "allegedly" commit rape (Bill Clinton), or, like Harry Reid's pet, Chris Coons, dabbled in Marxism and Oh yeah and what about your Messiah Obama and his drug years..


    Pardon me I meant BEARDED MARXIST..

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36726.html

    Ain't that a euphemism for a Russian lady's privates?
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    CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,219
    prfctlefts wrote:
    All of you had no problem when biden was a senator from Deleware so maybe I should remind some of you just how smart our vice president is and his character.But at least O'Donnell didn't kill anybody at Chappaquiddick (Ted Kennedy), join the Ku Klux Klan (Bob Byrd), "allegedly" commit rape (Bill Clinton), or, like Harry Reid's pet, Chris Coons, dabbled in Marxism and Oh yeah and what about your Messiah Obama and his drug years..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01359.html


    Joe Biden - His Lies and Exaggerations
    News Type: Opinion — Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
    politics, biden, vice-president
    By Dr Know
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    http://drknow.newsvine.com/_news/2008/0 ... ggerations

    I just listened to a tape of a statement made by Joe Biden during his campaign for president in 1988. Someone in the audience asked him "Where did you go to school and how did you do?"

    Joe said. "I will gladly compare my IQ with yours. I went to school and graduated with 3 degrees and was the leading student in the Political Science department. I went to law school on a full scholarship. In my first year I did not want to be there and I was in the bottom 2/3 of my class. I changed my mind and finished in the top half of my class. I will gladly compare my IQ to yours." I cannot be sure that these are the EXACT words but they are very close.

    The facts are:

    1) He did NOT get 3 degrees, he did not get 2 degrees it was 1 in Political Science. He never answered WHERE he went.

    2) He received a HALF scholarship to law school based on need. When confronted with this he said he never remembered paying anything for law school.One can only speculate why that is.

    3) His math abilities are not very good. The top 2/3 overlaps with the top 1/2. In addition he lied. He was 76th in a class of 85. That places him in the bottom 10.5% of his law school class.

    4) He never stated where he attended school in the answer to this question

    The attitude displayed demonstrates how he feels he is superior to others. Somehow he thinks that placing in the bottom 10% (11%, if you must) proves that he has the superior intellect.

    He was later proven to have plagiarized on papers in law school and he used a speech originally given by a British politician without giving any attribution or acknowledgment.

    Is this the quality of person we want leading our country?



    and then there's this :lol::lol: See we can play this smear game too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rkoqglq9dU


    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/biden- ... elevision/
    ...
    Just some constructive criticism...
    It makes you appear to be a Right Wing Republican douche everytime you play the partisan card. Like... just because someone is critical of the Tea party or a Tea Party candidate... dredging up partisan counter attacks that have no relevance to the core issue makes you appear to be... well, a true blue Republican, towing the party line. Now, if you are and independent as you claim to be, you wouldn't be so partisan... but, if you really are a proud Republican who does as the party says, then carry on.
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    Me... personally... I think this whole 'witchcraft' thing is a joke. What she did when she was younger... dating some Wizard... ain't that big a deal. It is people like Karl Rove that has taken issue:
    "Karl Rove, who was an adviser to President George W. Bush and is a vocal critic of O'Donnell, called her out on her controversies Sunday during his own appearance on Fox News. "There are serious questions that have been raised about Miss O'Donnell's background, character, statements and previous actions," Rove said. "My view is she can't simply ignore it. She's got to deal with it and explain it and put it in its most sympathetic light and move on.""
    ref. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20 ... e-odonnell
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    Now... Karl Rove IS a Right Wing Republican Douchebag. My advice to you is... don't be like Karl Rove.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    well it appears that the GOP will be giving her financial backing after all...i knew they would, even after their leadership opposed it a few days ago...this is stated in the article below as well as a few choice words about gay people....

    Christine O'Donnell keeps rightwingers spellbound despite witchcraft claim
    Tea Party hero still going strong despite revelations including comment that homosexuals suffer from an 'identity disorder'

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/se ... ican-right

    The Republican right is swinging behind the Tea Party's beleaguered hero, Christine O'Donnell, despite a stream of revelations about her past, including her claim that she dabbled in witchcraft.

    Senator Jim DeMint, of South Carolina, a conservative who is emerging as one of the most powerful figures in the Republican party, is contributing $250,000 (£160,000) for an ad this week in support of O'Donnell.

    His backing contrasts with the lukewarm response of the Republican party establishment, which opposed her in the first place and appears to be squirming over the quotes being unearthed from interviews over the past decade about gay people, sexual morality and other issues.

    The Washington Post published an interview she gave in 2006 in which she is quoted as saying homosexuals suffer from an "identity disorder".

    But many Tea Party activists and conservative Republicans appear unconcerned, either because they back her views or because they see her as a victim of an onslaught by the liberal US media.

    O'Donnell was the surprise victor of the Republican primary in Delaware for the US Senate last week, beating a moderate Republican supported by the party establishment. She will now face the Democratic candidate, Chris Coons. The party establishment had threatened to withhold funding for her, regarding her as too extreme to stand a chance of winning in the state. It is now grudgingly promising to provide at least minimum support.

    DeMint's financial donation is a message to the party establishment not to write her off.

    Although not a household name like Sarah Palin, DeMint endorsed during the primary season O'Donnell as well as other conservatives and Tea Party activists.

    According to the Politico website, the 30-second ad he is paying for in Delaware portrays her as, unlike Coons, a politician who stands up to "party bosses and power brokers". It has a clip of Coons being referred to by the Democratic Senate leader, Harry Reid, as "my pet".

    O'Donnell claims that since her win on 14 September, her campaign has received $2m from donors.

    The Washington Post website has published an interview she gave in 2006 to a Delaware paper, the Wilmington News Journal, in which she is quoted as saying: "People are created in God's image. Homosexuality is an identity adopted through societal factors. It's an identity disorder."

    The quote comes in spite of her sister, Jean, being openly gay and supportive of her campaign
    .

    O'Donnell tried to a laugh off another quote, in 1999, in which she said: "I dabbled into witchcraft. I never joined a coven. I hung around people who were doing these things."

    She told a meeting in Delaware yesterday: "How many of you didn't hang out with questionable folks in high school? There's been no witchcraft since. If there was, Karl Rove (George W Bush's political strategist and one of her most outspoken critics) would be a supporter now."
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    I like her on politically incorrect where she was going on and on about never telling a lie and it is always wrong. So it was proposed to her that you are harboring jews in WWII and Hitler knocks on your door and asks if jews are in there? Do you tell the truth?

    Her answer.....

    God will come to her aid in that situation.

    She sounds perfect for the tea party.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    Smellyman wrote:
    I like her on politically incorrect where she was going on and on about never telling a lie and it is always wrong. So it was proposed to her that you are harboring jews in WWII and Hitler knocks on your door and asks if jews are in there? Do you tell the truth?

    Her answer.....

    God will come to her aid in that situation.

    She sounds perfect for the tea party.
    eddie izzard made good points in that exchange. he said there are varying degrees of lying and that it is necessary in some cases. it is one thing to lie to a cop when he asks if that is your car double parked. and if a nazi shows up at your door and you are harboring jews, what would you say? she completely ducked that question because if she said she would lie to the cop or lie to protect the jews from the germans she would completely contradict herself and look very bad...she should have just answered with a yes or no instead of how she answered. but i guess god is a hot button topic for the people she is trying to court...
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    the first id heard of this woman was on the radio news this morning. it bought up the whole vehemently denying she was ever a witch thingy. which i have to say made me laugh. then it went on to say that she reckons masturbation is akin to adultery... and thats where she lost me. i thought how can you cheat on your husband or wife with yourself??? anyhoo thats what i heard. all i can say is there are some interesting folks out there. 8-)
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    the first id heard of this woman was on the radio news this morning. it bought up the whole vehemently denying she was ever a witch thingy. which i have to say made me laugh. then it went on to say that she reckons masturbation is akin to adultery... and thats where she lost me. i thought how can you cheat on your husband or wife with yourself??? anyhoo thats what i heard. all i can say is there are some interesting folks out there. 8-)
    unfortunately these "interesting folks" pass for candidates in todays political climate...




    give me a socialist with a criminal record, please.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    Commy wrote:
    the first id heard of this woman was on the radio news this morning. it bought up the whole vehemently denying she was ever a witch thingy. which i have to say made me laugh. then it went on to say that she reckons masturbation is akin to adultery... and thats where she lost me. i thought how can you cheat on your husband or wife with yourself??? anyhoo thats what i heard. all i can say is there are some interesting folks out there. 8-)
    unfortunately these "interesting folks" pass for candidates in todays political climate...




    give me a socialist with a criminal record, please.
    agreed. at least a person with a criminal record to me it would seem would have to be more honest and less self righteous because they would have to talk about that record. IMO someone with a record would be less likely to tell me crap like masturbation is wrong, homosexuality is an abomination, and god will make a decision for you...
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:
    the first id heard of this woman was on the radio news this morning. it bought up the whole vehemently denying she was ever a witch thingy. which i have to say made me laugh. then it went on to say that she reckons masturbation is akin to adultery... and thats where she lost me. i thought how can you cheat on your husband or wife with yourself??? anyhoo thats what i heard. all i can say is there are some interesting folks out there. 8-)
    unfortunately these "interesting folks" pass for candidates in todays political climate...




    give me a socialist with a criminal record, please.
    agreed. at least a person with a criminal record to me it would seem would have to be more honest and less self righteous because they would have to talk about that record. IMO someone with a record would be less likely to tell me crap like masturbation is wrong, homosexuality is an abomination, and god will make a decision for you...

    depends how they got that criminal record.
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:


    give me a socialist with a criminal record, please.
    agreed. at least a person with a criminal record to me it would seem would have to be more honest and less self righteous because they would have to talk about that record. IMO someone with a record would be less likely to tell me crap like masturbation is wrong, homosexuality is an abomination, and god will make a decision for you...

    depends how they got that criminal record.


    resisting arrest....indescriminate arrest at an anti war protest....throwing a brick at a mcdonalds. every year or so americans should be pissed off enough to destroy at least a mcdonalds for fucks sake. and leaders willing to be right there with us. lots of things.



    obviously not murder or rape or any of that, come on now.
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:
    agreed. at least a person with a criminal record to me it would seem would have to be more honest and less self righteous because they would have to talk about that record. IMO someone with a record would be less likely to tell me crap like masturbation is wrong, homosexuality is an abomination, and god will make a decision for you...

    depends how they got that criminal record.


    resisting arrest....indescriminate arrest at an anti war protest....throwing a brick at a mcdonalds. every year or so americans should be pissed off enough to destroy at least a mcdonalds for fuck sake. and leaders willing to be right there with us. lots of things.



    obviously not murder or rape or any of that, come on now.

    not even of its rape by deception??? ;)

    well you know commy with all the crazy bastards running around here i needed clarification. 8-)

    oh and speaking of which, th best use of a fast food restaurant ive ever seen is a pizza hut near me that is now a funeral home. i consider that a step forward. :thumbup:
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984

    not even of its rape by deception??? ;)

    well you know commy with all the crazy bastards running around here i needed clarification. 8-)

    oh and speaking of which, th best use of a fast food restaurant ive ever seen is a pizza hut near me that is now a funeral home. i consider that a step forward. :thumbup:


    lol.




    progress.


    it happens.
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    if she's gonna tell me I can't masturbate, then I'm starting a campaign for women to stop pooping.
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    fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Jasunmark wrote:
    norm wrote:


    Yeah, she also used to run an ex-gay campaign with a guy who told her that his Ex-gay therapy didn't work... she didn't care, it was too important to her TV appearances. This woman is insane. So are the Tea Tards who elected her.

    I'm just aghast that someone like this can make it this far but we all know that if Balloon Boy ran for office, about 1/4 of the people would vote for HIM too.

    please show a link to this please.
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    If you hate something....


    Funny that all those bitching about the stupid attacks against Obama ...being a muslim, not born in the USA, etc....are now playing the same stupid game.
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    if she's gonna tell me I can't masturbate, then I'm starting a campaign for women to stop pooping.

    you have to do this
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    If you hate something....


    Funny that all those bitching about the stupid attacks against Obama ...being a muslim, not born in the USA, etc....are now playing the same stupid game.
    it is not the same stupid game when there are numerous documented interviews and tv appearances where she comes off as a complete whackjob.
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    If you hate something....


    Funny that all those bitching about the stupid attacks against Obama ...being a muslim, not born in the USA, etc....are now playing the same stupid game.
    it is not the same stupid game when there are numerous documented interviews and tv appearances where she comes off as a complete whackjob.


    It's the same thing. It's a distraction from the issues. And it's exactly what some of these people want. SO keep playing into their hand, and they will keep wining primaries and elections.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    If you hate something....


    Funny that all those bitching about the stupid attacks against Obama ...being a muslim, not born in the USA, etc....are now playing the same stupid game.
    it is not the same stupid game when there are numerous documented interviews and tv appearances where she comes off as a complete whackjob.


    It's the same thing. It's a distraction from the issues. And it's exactly what some of these people want. SO keep playing into their hand, and they will keep wining primaries and elections.
    would you vote for her?
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    it is not the same stupid game when there are numerous documented interviews and tv appearances where she comes off as a complete whackjob.


    It's the same thing. It's a distraction from the issues. And it's exactly what some of these people want. SO keep playing into their hand, and they will keep wining primaries and elections.
    would you vote for her?

    Haven't read enough, but I'm leaning towards no.
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    CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,219
    It's the same thing. It's a distraction from the issues. And it's exactly what some of these people want. SO keep playing into their hand, and they will keep wining primaries and elections.
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    I completely agree with you... this whole 'witchcraft' thing is a distraction from the real issues.
    While I believe that a person's background is important to our decisions whether to vote for a candidate in important, I believe the background information should be directly attached to the role that person will be playing in all of our lives. O'Connell is running for one of 100 seats available... that is 100 out of our population of what... 400 million?
    I would focus on her claims of running on a campaign claims about 'Fiscal Responsibility', when she used campaign funds for personal expenses, including giving her mother money from her campaign warchest. That is not fiscal responsibility in my book.
    Instead, she will play the persecution card, claiming the 'Liberal Media' is making false claims against her and her misuse of campaign funds will get swept up with the witchcraft thing.
    ...
    But.... such is politics in America. The Electorate goes out and votes more than they used to, but the literacy level of the voting public has dropped a few notches as more and more uninformed voters go to the polls. Politics in America has been dumbed down to the level of sports... meaning sports is something most Americans understand... winning and losing... loyalty to the team... hatred of the rival. It won't be long til elections become popularity contests and we end up with President Snooki.
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