When the government raises taxes - even on the so-called rich - it is just trying to increase its power and influence over our lives...and thereby reduce our so-called freedoms even more.
When it lowers taxes, the opposite is true.
Ugh, again with this crap.
The rich bought the government, so the thing that you despise so much is run by the people whose ass you are constantly licking.
Death taxes, capital gains taxes and taxes on dividends will affect every American that owns stock or dies. I am very concerned about those being raised. If Congress would have done something about the expiring Bush Tax Cuts before the pussies high-tailed it outta there, maybe businesses would at least know whether they could afford to hire people or not.
I don't own a business, but not knowing what the tax rate is going to be has stopped me from doing a lot of spending that I would have otherwise done, including hiring people for construction projects around my house.
When those assholes cut out the wasteful spending, then they can talk to me about raising my taxes.
I think the tax cut issue is a brilliant strategy by the democrats. It's a good strategy because Obama can claim to be the defender of the middle class heading into November while still raising taxes. The GOP is awkwardly forced to oppose the plan because it will cost their voters $700B, which the democrats can then appropriate the money to their voters . . . or pay for the military for one year :shock: . Genius.
its was a plan put in place by the GOP tho, setting the tax cuts to expire under the next president, who they all probably agreed was going to be a democrat, given how terrible a job bush did. it makes it look like obama is raising taxes on the rich, when in reality he's simply putting things back the way they were before bush screwed them.
and i hate to defend obama, because i don't really support anything he does, but he is saving 98% of people from a tax hike, or is going to prevent them from expiring.
and i guess since everyone is so concerned about that top 2% really shows how influencial fox news can be.
The top 2% wage earners in america can afford a tax hike, they probably own half of the county
anyway.
i agree with people being concerned with small businesses getting hit on this. If they're hit then obviously things will not work out well because it is SMALL businesses that create jobs. Secondly, I think that the clinton era taxes saw extremely good production. Lastly, extending these tax cuts will cost us 700billion we don't have, so in essence that's wasteful spending.
This is generally my position as well, though I have to admit I'm not as familiar with the specifics of the Obama plan as I should be. My biggest concern would be how the plan defines the "wealthiest" Americans and whether that includes small business owners that don't file as a corporation. Whether gimmesometruth wants to believe it or not, that is where the majority of job creation comes from. Perhaps not top-paying employment, but let's face it, we can't all be rock stars.
the wealthiest individuals are defined as any individual making over $250,000 or any couple making over $400,000. these are the top 2% of all wage earners.
WHERE ARE THE JOBS THAT WERE REPORTEDLY CREATED BY THESE TAX CUTS? what happened when we were hemoraging over 700,000 jobs a month under bush's last few months?? same tax cuts were in place there, yet no jobs were created. that is a bullshit talking point that the rich are the only ones create the jobs. if they were creating jobs it would be pulling us out of this recession because more people would be working. when unemployment is nearly 10%, where are the jobs that these people are allegedly creating?
you are right, poor people are creating jobs all over the place. Who do you think creates jobs? exlain to me how taking more money from individuals will create jobs?
who the hell are you to say someone isn't paying enough in taxes? They earned it, they worked hard to get it, but yet they shouldn't get to? fuck that. we should all pay 12%. and not a fucking dollar more. The federal government is way too involved in things that states should be in charge of.
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Lastly, extending these tax cuts will cost us 700billion we don't have, so in essence that's wasteful spending.
it isn't the governments money. it doesn't cost them anything. It doesn't cost them anything. it doesn't cost them anything. They never had it.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Death taxes, capital gains taxes and taxes on dividends will affect every American that owns stock or dies. I am very concerned about those being raised. If Congress would have done something about the expiring Bush Tax Cuts before the pussies high-tailed it outta there, maybe businesses would at least know whether they could afford to hire people or not.
I don't own a business, but not knowing what the tax rate is going to be has stopped me from doing a lot of spending that I would have otherwise done, including hiring people for construction projects around my house.
When those assholes cut out the wasteful spending, then they can talk to me about raising my taxes.
There won't be any new jobs in this country while there's a tax break for offshoring jobs. We can thank Republicans for that, when our own representatives favor jobs in other countries rather than job creation in our own country!!
I think the tax cut issue is a brilliant strategy by the democrats. It's a good strategy because Obama can claim to be the defender of the middle class heading into November while still raising taxes. The GOP is awkwardly forced to oppose the plan because it will cost their voters $700B, which the democrats can then appropriate the money to their voters . . . or pay for the military for one year :shock: . Genius.
its was a plan put in place by the GOP tho, setting the tax cuts to expire under the next president, who they all probably agreed was going to be a democrat, given how terrible a job bush did. it makes it look like obama is raising taxes on the rich, when in reality he's simply putting things back the way they were before bush screwed them.
and i hate to defend obama, because i don't really support anything he does, but he is saving 98% of people from a tax hike, or is going to prevent them from expiring.
and i guess since everyone is so concerned about that top 2% really shows how influencial fox news can be.
The top 2% wage earners in america can afford a tax hike, they probably own half of the county
anyway.
I'm more concerned with 100% of the population. I would be more interested in the government finding a way to cut $700M in spending then focusing on justifying a tax increase.
Everyone always complains about how the government wastes money and does not run efficiently. So why do we want to take more money from entrepreneurs that value how their dollar is spent and instead give it back to a massive government filled with bureaucracy?
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I don't own a business, but not knowing what the tax rate is going to be has stopped me from doing a lot of spending that I would have otherwise done, including hiring people for construction projects around my house.
When those assholes cut out the wasteful spending, then they can talk to me about raising my taxes.
and i hate to defend obama, because i don't really support anything he does, but he is saving 98% of people from a tax hike, or is going to prevent them from expiring.
and i guess since everyone is so concerned about that top 2% really shows how influencial fox news can be.
The top 2% wage earners in america can afford a tax hike, they probably own half of the county
anyway.
you are right, poor people are creating jobs all over the place. Who do you think creates jobs? exlain to me how taking more money from individuals will create jobs?
who the hell are you to say someone isn't paying enough in taxes? They earned it, they worked hard to get it, but yet they shouldn't get to? fuck that. we should all pay 12%. and not a fucking dollar more. The federal government is way too involved in things that states should be in charge of.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
to get back to 1979 levels, back when a guy with a job could raise a family.
good idea giving the working class income yeah?
Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Demoncrats will take it out on the average person for their heavy election losses.
I'm sure it will be made to look like it's the Republicans fault for whatever reason, but hey, consider the source.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/1 ... 65501.html
Everyone always complains about how the government wastes money and does not run efficiently. So why do we want to take more money from entrepreneurs that value how their dollar is spent and instead give it back to a massive government filled with bureaucracy?