The Watchmen (band)

HughFreakingDillon

Watchmen coming back to Winnipeg in March 2016 to perform and record a live album to be released that spring. AWESOME.

HughFreakingDillon

FRONT FUCKING ROW BABY! NEVER IN MY LIFE HAS THAT HAPPENED! SO EXCITED!!!!

oftenreading

Congrats Hugh. They do not appear to be playing anywhere within 2 provinces of me, or I'd be there, too.

HughFreakingDillon

one week away. can't wait.

HughFreakingDillon

danny and joey are releasing an album under Serlin/Greaves. they've been playing snippets here and there on social media. i keep asking when it's going to come out...so far no response. 

willbarclay

cool 

1ThoughtKnown

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

HughFreakingDillon

1ThoughtKnown said:

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

i gather from conversations i've had with them that they don't think there's enough interest to do that. which i find odd, since ken tizzard (bassist) has released almost all of his solo work on vinyl, and his fan base would be infinitely smaller than the band's. 

i asked on IG if they'll be releasing the serlin/greaves record on vinyl, and *crickets*

1ThoughtKnown

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

i gather from conversations i've had with them that they don't think there's enough interest to do that. which i find odd, since ken tizzard (bassist) has released almost all of his solo work on vinyl, and his fan base would be infinitely smaller than the band's. 

i asked on IG if they'll be releasing the serlin/greaves record on vinyl, and *crickets*

That’s really a shame. They did put out that live record on vinyl.  One is on Discogs and it has some good songs but their catalogue is much deeper than that and some of the reviews on it are unflattering. 

My opinion matters little of course,  but I’d attempt a limited edition RSD (only in Canada) next April for about 300-500 copies of one of the 90s releases.  It may surprise them how many fans would purchase a copy. They could also have some with merch on the website. 

I first saw the Watchmen at University of Lethbridge in the fall of ‘92. They were fantastic. Bought the McLaren Furnace Room CD (or was it a cassette) at the show and played the hell out of it. Mister is probably my favourite song by them. 

Having said all that, I can understand why they might not want to take the financial risk. The Moist RE of Silver hasn’t been exactly flying off the shelves from what I’ve observed, although the cancelled tour may be the main contributor to that. 

 

HughFreakingDillon

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

i gather from conversations i've had with them that they don't think there's enough interest to do that. which i find odd, since ken tizzard (bassist) has released almost all of his solo work on vinyl, and his fan base would be infinitely smaller than the band's. 

i asked on IG if they'll be releasing the serlin/greaves record on vinyl, and *crickets*

That’s really a shame. They did put out that live record on vinyl.  One is on Discogs and it has some good songs but their catalogue is much deeper than that and some of the reviews on it are unflattering. 

My opinion matters little of course,  but I’d attempt a limited edition RSD (only in Canada) next April for about 300-500 copies of one of the 90s releases.  It may surprise them how many fans would purchase a copy. They could also have some with merch on the website. 

I first saw the Watchmen at University of Lethbridge in the fall of ‘92. They were fantastic. Bought the McLaren Furnace Room CD (or was it a cassette) at the show and played the hell out of it. Mister is probably my favourite song by them. 

Having said all that, I can understand why they might not want to take the financial risk. The Moist RE of Silver hasn’t been exactly flying off the shelves from what I’ve observed, although the cancelled tour may be the main contributor to that. 

 

ever since they reunited in 2008, I have been BEGGING them to put merch out at their shows. they were not only leaving tons of money on the table, but the fans wanted it. people were still wearing their tattered old shirts from 1996. they saw it as cashing in on their fans. i tried to tell them the fans WANTED it. they finally released a couple things, a grey shirt and a toque, and that was about it. of course they sold out instantly. not sure why they don't capitalize. they don't even sell their cd's at shows. it's bizarre. ken sells his solo stuff and that's it. 

danny put out a 4 song live vinyl of solo songs he performed in a new york club. no promotion. nothing online. i went to a special charity event with just him and joey; an acoustic evening with the two of them. the vinyl was for sale. i lost it. i had no idea it existed. neither did any of my hard core watchmen fan friends. i had him sign it after the show. i'm like "dude, why didn't you promote this?". when people found out about it, he was getting inundated with requests on social media for it. 

i agree with the RSD thing. i think it would go like hotcakes. they put out two songs for download for free on their website that they recorded after they reunited. I kept telling them "put those two on a 7"; people will love it". nope. those songs aren't even available on their site anymore. they also released a few shows for digital download for free. one was a complete acoustic set they did at an australian bar. another was an album show they did for Silent Radar at the Horseshoe in toronto. 

again, so much cash left on the table with these guys. 

1ThoughtKnown

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

i gather from conversations i've had with them that they don't think there's enough interest to do that. which i find odd, since ken tizzard (bassist) has released almost all of his solo work on vinyl, and his fan base would be infinitely smaller than the band's. 

i asked on IG if they'll be releasing the serlin/greaves record on vinyl, and *crickets*

That’s really a shame. They did put out that live record on vinyl.  One is on Discogs and it has some good songs but their catalogue is much deeper than that and some of the reviews on it are unflattering. 

My opinion matters little of course,  but I’d attempt a limited edition RSD (only in Canada) next April for about 300-500 copies of one of the 90s releases.  It may surprise them how many fans would purchase a copy. They could also have some with merch on the website. 

I first saw the Watchmen at University of Lethbridge in the fall of ‘92. They were fantastic. Bought the McLaren Furnace Room CD (or was it a cassette) at the show and played the hell out of it. Mister is probably my favourite song by them. 

Having said all that, I can understand why they might not want to take the financial risk. The Moist RE of Silver hasn’t been exactly flying off the shelves from what I’ve observed, although the cancelled tour may be the main contributor to that. 

 

ever since they reunited in 2008, I have been BEGGING them to put merch out at their shows. they were not only leaving tons of money on the table, but the fans wanted it. people were still wearing their tattered old shirts from 1996. they saw it as cashing in on their fans. i tried to tell them the fans WANTED it. they finally released a couple things, a grey shirt and a toque, and that was about it. of course they sold out instantly. not sure why they don't capitalize. they don't even sell their cd's at shows. it's bizarre. ken sells his solo stuff and that's it. 

danny put out a 4 song live vinyl of solo songs he performed in a new york club. no promotion. nothing online. i went to a special charity event with just him and joey; an acoustic evening with the two of them. the vinyl was for sale. i lost it. i had no idea it existed. neither did any of my hard core watchmen fan friends. i had him sign it after the show. i'm like "dude, why didn't you promote this?". when people found out about it, he was getting inundated with requests on social media for it. 

i agree with the RSD thing. i think it would go like hotcakes. they put out two songs for download for free on their website that they recorded after they reunited. I kept telling them "put those two on a 7"; people will love it". nope. those songs aren't even available on their site anymore. they also released a few shows for digital download for free. one was a complete acoustic set they did at an australian bar. another was an album show they did for Silent Radar at the Horseshoe in toronto. 

again, so much cash left on the table with these guys. 

It’s unfortunate. Maybe they don’t realize how popular vinyl has become? Maybe they just underestimate their own popularity. 

Great band.

HughFreakingDillon

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Can you ask them when they will release their catalogue on vinyl? Particularly McLaren Furnace Room. 

I think it’s about time a run of 500 to 1000 of those were available 

i gather from conversations i've had with them that they don't think there's enough interest to do that. which i find odd, since ken tizzard (bassist) has released almost all of his solo work on vinyl, and his fan base would be infinitely smaller than the band's. 

i asked on IG if they'll be releasing the serlin/greaves record on vinyl, and *crickets*

That’s really a shame. They did put out that live record on vinyl.  One is on Discogs and it has some good songs but their catalogue is much deeper than that and some of the reviews on it are unflattering. 

My opinion matters little of course,  but I’d attempt a limited edition RSD (only in Canada) next April for about 300-500 copies of one of the 90s releases.  It may surprise them how many fans would purchase a copy. They could also have some with merch on the website. 

I first saw the Watchmen at University of Lethbridge in the fall of ‘92. They were fantastic. Bought the McLaren Furnace Room CD (or was it a cassette) at the show and played the hell out of it. Mister is probably my favourite song by them. 

Having said all that, I can understand why they might not want to take the financial risk. The Moist RE of Silver hasn’t been exactly flying off the shelves from what I’ve observed, although the cancelled tour may be the main contributor to that. 

 

ever since they reunited in 2008, I have been BEGGING them to put merch out at their shows. they were not only leaving tons of money on the table, but the fans wanted it. people were still wearing their tattered old shirts from 1996. they saw it as cashing in on their fans. i tried to tell them the fans WANTED it. they finally released a couple things, a grey shirt and a toque, and that was about it. of course they sold out instantly. not sure why they don't capitalize. they don't even sell their cd's at shows. it's bizarre. ken sells his solo stuff and that's it. 

danny put out a 4 song live vinyl of solo songs he performed in a new york club. no promotion. nothing online. i went to a special charity event with just him and joey; an acoustic evening with the two of them. the vinyl was for sale. i lost it. i had no idea it existed. neither did any of my hard core watchmen fan friends. i had him sign it after the show. i'm like "dude, why didn't you promote this?". when people found out about it, he was getting inundated with requests on social media for it. 

i agree with the RSD thing. i think it would go like hotcakes. they put out two songs for download for free on their website that they recorded after they reunited. I kept telling them "put those two on a 7"; people will love it". nope. those songs aren't even available on their site anymore. they also released a few shows for digital download for free. one was a complete acoustic set they did at an australian bar. another was an album show they did for Silent Radar at the Horseshoe in toronto. 

again, so much cash left on the table with these guys. 

It’s unfortunate. Maybe they don’t realize how popular vinyl has become? Maybe they just underestimate their own popularity. 

Great band.

either that or their management knows way more about the music industry than I do. which obviously is the case. I'm just a fanboy that will buy anything. The average music fan? not so much. 

willbarclay

I think financially it might be a gamble for them and their not willing to bet on it. Sure, some vinyl will sell, but how much?

1ThoughtKnown

That’s why I suggested the small run for RSD

HughFreakingDillon

or they could do what the headstones did. pledgemusic (which went out of business, but there are others)

willbarclay

Well if your a Canadian band not named “the Hip” I think there is hesitation on these things.
im a huge I Mother Earth fan and I’ve been waiting for their album Scenery and Fish to get a vinyl release for a long time. They said it was coming and in the works for a few years now. Nothing.
I do like the pledge music idea though. Let the fans fund the project and if it works great, if not, just send refunds.

HughFreakingDillon

willbarclay said:

Well if your a Canadian band not named “the Hip” I think there is hesitation on these things.
im a huge I Mother Earth fan and I’ve been waiting for their album Scenery and Fish to get a vinyl release for a long time. They said it was coming and in the works for a few years now. Nothing.
I do like the pledge music idea though. Let the fans fund the project and if it works great, if not, just send refunds.

yeah, when i used to be on facebook I used to see Jag post all the time about that vinyl coming. still nothing. 

1ThoughtKnown

There are plenty of Canadian bands with records on vinyl besides the Hip from the same era. OLP, Sloan, Tea Party, 54-40, Big Wreck, Moist, Eric’s Trip and on and on and on.     

As far as IME, they would do fine as well although I wouldn’t personally be interested in adding it to my collection (similar to OLP the first album showed promise but it just isn’t my cup of tea after that)
I’m waiting on the Watchmen and Doughboys in particular. Wonder if Junkhouse is available on vinyl? Off to check Discogs! 

EDIT - Nope. Strays is only on CD. I may just have to break down and buy a CD player for my HiFi system to listen to some of these acts. 

willbarclay

Don’t forget Big Sugar just released Hemi Vision on Vinyl
i get what your saying but there are lots of classic Canadian 90s albums that don’t have a vinyl issue
OLP, Sloan and The Tea Party have a big enough fan base to do it and have remained actively touring. 

1ThoughtKnown

the Watchmen have toured fairly recently.  There is no way Eric’s Trip had a bigger fan base than the Watchmen. 

Love Tara is a great album and I own it, but they never got any airplay on MuchMusic. 

Anyways, the reasons they have for not putting out wax is their own. I think it’s a mistake. I’d buy the entire discography in one shot. 

There it is! A run of 500 complete vinyl box sets. Boom!