Petraeus Condemns U.S. Church's Plan to Burn Qurans

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Absolutely idiotic.

    Like burning flags, it's just dumb and done by people with nothing worthwhile to say.
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  • Cosmo
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Absolutely idiotic.

    Like burning flags, it's just dumb and done by people with nothing worthwhile to say.
    ...
    That's exactly right... all it does is incite a reaction... an extreme reaction. Like, imagine what would happen to some idiot burning an American flag at a Veteran's Day or Memorial Day parade... he'd probably get a beat down. Free speech? Yes... but, free speech does not mean it comes without a risk. Does a flag burning deserve a beating? I'd say no... but, that doesn't mean it won't happen. I do believe that there should be a penalty for stupidity... like being stupid enough to burn a flag in front of a bunch of active duty, reservists and vets on Memorial Day. Kind of like trying to ride a baby bear in the forrest with the mother bears only a few feet away, stupidity. Has risks.
    I think this pastor guy is just out for publicity... which has worked.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Cosmo wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Absolutely idiotic.

    Like burning flags, it's just dumb and done by people with nothing worthwhile to say.
    ...
    That's exactly right... all it does is incite a reaction... an extreme reaction. Like, imagine what would happen to some idiot burning an American flag at a Veteran's Day or Memorial Day parade... he'd probably get a beat down. Free speech? Yes... but, free speech does not mean it comes without a risk. Does a flag burning deserve a beating? I'd say no... but, that doesn't mean it won't happen. I do believe that there should be a penalty for stupidity... like being stupid enough to burn a flag in front of a bunch of active duty, reservists and vets on Memorial Day. Kind of like trying to ride a baby bear in the forrest with the mother bears only a few feet away, stupidity. Has risks.
    I think this pastor guy is just out for publicity... which has worked.

    It's too bad there are people like this "pastor".

    I bet he's trying to make a correlation between having the freedom to do something and whether or not you should really do it anyhow...ie building the mosque (or cultural center in Manhattan). Maybe I'm giving him too much credit there. He's probably just a hateful idiot that wants to get a reaction.

    It's the same behavior that children display. They do something they know is wrong just to see the reaction.
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  • Jason P
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    fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
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    Jason P wrote:
    fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.

    Fear is a path to the dark side. Sorry just watched the Star Wars Marathon.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.

    Fear is a path to the dark side. Sorry just watched the Star Wars Marathon.
    ...
    Didn't the last 3 Star Wars movies totally ruin the first three? I take it, I wasn't the only one that wanted to pimp slap that whiney bitch, Annie. How did Annie... become Darth Vader... the ultimate villian?
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    Cosmo wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Absolutely idiotic.

    Like burning flags, it's just dumb and done by people with nothing worthwhile to say.
    ...
    That's exactly right... all it does is incite a reaction... an extreme reaction. Like, imagine what would happen to some idiot burning an American flag at a Veteran's Day or Memorial Day parade... he'd probably get a beat down. Free speech? Yes... but, free speech does not mean it comes without a risk. Does a flag burning deserve a beating? I'd say no... but, that doesn't mean it won't happen. I do believe that there should be a penalty for stupidity... like being stupid enough to burn a flag in front of a bunch of active duty, reservists and vets on Memorial Day. Kind of like trying to ride a baby bear in the forrest with the mother bears only a few feet away, stupidity. Has risks.
    I think this pastor guy is just out for publicity... which has worked.

    The sad difference between what this guy is doing and people burning flags in front of vets on Memorial Day is that the flag-burners are pretty much only putting themselves in danger. This "pastor" is putting others in danger. How convenient for him to be able to act like an idiot and have others suffer the consequences.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    scb wrote:
    The sad difference between what this guy is doing and people burning flags in front of vets on Memorial Day is that the flag-burners are pretty much only putting themselves in danger. This "pastor" is putting others in danger. How convenient for him to be able to act like an idiot and have others suffer the consequences.
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    Yes, that is true. This guy IS a fucking coward because he has the luxury of an ocean between him.
    If you ask me... if he really DOES want to send his message to the Insurgents and Al Qaeda... he and his cowardice followers should burn the Koran in the tribal regions of NorthWestern Pakistan.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    so i guess father fuckface would be ok if i went there and burned a pile of bibles?
  • Commy
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    Cosmo wrote:
    whgarrett wrote:
    I don't believe we should be in Afghanistan, so to worry about it endangering soldiers lives to me is silly. Aren't we at war supposedly? They have every right to burn that book. I don't know why people take it so seriously? Those doin the burning or those opposed to it. It seems extremely silly. I do know that I hate walking on egg shells in order to not upset certain people. Nothing good comes of that either. :D
    ...
    I agree with you say about our not being in Afghanisatan. No matter how much we think we can change them by building a few schools and trying to get them to enjoy Big Macs as much as we do, we can never change their culture. And their culture is steeped in religion. They create their laws based in religion.
    That being said, even though you and I believe we should not be there does not change the fact that we ARE there. And our soldiers are trying to train the Afghani soldiers to stand up on their own. Those soldiers go out on raid with our soldiers. Those Muslim soldiers are going out with our 'Christian' soldiers to capture and kill Muslim insurgents.
    This idiot in Florida is a couple thousand miles away from an Afghani (Muslim) solider with an AK-74 watching his back in a nighttime raid. He (Pastor Dick) is giving people in and sympathetic with the Taliban and Al Qaeda the best recruiting tool they could ever imagine.
    ...
    Finally... I believe you'd be walking on eggshells if you were tasked to oversee a raid being conducted by Afghani troops and you were wearing a cross around your neck. NOT burning Bibles is NOT walking on eggshells... it is what people with common sense do. Fucking idiots looking to piss people off are the ones who burn Bibles, books and flags.


    their culture may be steeped in religion but it wasn't always so. before the US came in to give the russians their vietnam, policies were in place to give women many rights, including schools with both girls and boys, the right to vote, the right to choose who they married, minimum marry age of 16. a lot of that went out the window when the US opted to fund radical Islam in the region, which of course eventually led to the Taliban. so yeah, now religion is very much part of their culture, but a big reason why is US foreign policy.


    and burning books is a form of censorship. a form that Hitler used, as i recall.
  • gimmesometruth27
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    norm wrote:
    so i guess father fuckface would be ok if i went there and burned a pile of bibles?
    imagine me talkin' in the universal redneck voice here...

    "nuh man, nuh, you can't burn that thar bible! that's the krishun bible, THE bible, the one that 'merica was founded on!! you burn my bible and ima gonna burn your ass!! USA USA!"
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  • catefrances
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    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Didn't the last 3 Star Wars movies totally ruin the first three? I take it, I wasn't the only one that wanted to pimp slap that whiney bitch, Annie. How did Annie... become Darth Vader... the ultimate villian?

    yes yes they did. and i too wanted to bitch slap poor lttle orphan annie. 8-)

    and now to stay on topic...

    burning books is bad.
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  • whgarrett
    whgarrett Posts: 574
    I am burning the bible, the torah, and the qur'an right now in my woodstove. They all burn the same.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    whgarrett wrote:
    I am burning the bible, the torah, and the qur'an right now in my woodstove. They all burn the same.

    just so long as youre doing it to keep warm and not tdue to ignorance. ;) 8-)
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  • Boxes&Books
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    GOP Silent about Quran Burning..... :x


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/ ... /#39049148
  • gimmesometruth27
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    tonifig8 wrote:
    GOP Silent about Quran Burning..... :x


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/ ... /#39049148
    it would not take much for palin and boehner to speak out on this, just make a quick statement...if they refuse to condemn this "pastor" then their silence implies how they really feel about this subject....
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  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    catefrances wrote:
    and this tolerant christian is burning the quran why???

    Check out the church's website. http://www.doveworld.org/ He gives 10 (then 5 more) "reasons" why. Interestingly, the majority of them are equally, or more, applicable to the Bible & Christianity.


    So I guess he wouldn't object to us burning the Bible then...

    ...unless of course he's a hypocrite. :|

    But surely not... He is a man of God after all. :roll:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,874
    i saw this "pastor" on the cbs morning show this morning. he calls muslims "MOslims". i mean for fucks sakes, at least pronounce the name of your enemies correctly...this guy seems about as comfortable in front of a camera as basilmarceaux.com....
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i saw this "pastor" on the cbs morning show this morning. he calls muslims "MOslims". i mean for fucks sakes, at least pronounce the name of your enemies correctly...this guy seems about as comfortable in front of a camera as basilmarceaux.com....


    I think there are plenty of legit reasons to bash this guy rather than resorting to how he speaks. ;)
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Why are we giving this idiot any air time. he has a church of what 20 people. this is sadly the best thing that has ever happen to him and his church.

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