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RW81233

The Juggler wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

P.S. how did eli win the mvp again?

did you watch the game?

My wife came home with ribs....what was I supposed to do? I was right though the game fucking sucked and the punter should have been MVP.

The Juggler

RW81233 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

P.S. how did eli win the mvp again?

did you watch the game?

My wife came home with ribs....what was I supposed to do? I was right though the game fucking sucked and the punter should have been MVP.

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

Indifference71

The Juggler wrote:

don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

Yeah, I dont know what the problem is with Eli as the MVP. Completed 75% of his passes for just under 300 yards, 1 TD and no INTs. And led an 88 yard game winning drive. Not too shabby.

davidtrios

Indifference71 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

Yeah, I dont know what the problem is with Eli as the MVP. Completed 75% of his passes for just under 300 yards, 1 TD and no INTs. And led an 88 yard game winning drive. Not too shabby.

i think nix deserved the mvp. 10 catches, over 100 yrs no drops, drive extender...
and weatherford was great but dude is not winning mvp of the sb no matter how many times he pinned the pats

81

The Juggler wrote:

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

i don't think it was an all time classic....i think wide right (or was it left), Cool Joe vs. Cincy part 2, the longest yard, pats over rams, and even giants/pats part 1. that's me.

the catch was nice, and will be replayed for years, but i'll take the tyree pass over that one. heck, i thought the catch over the middle early in the game was a better catch...i thought for sure the ball was over thrown, and the dude just skyed for it.

if we are talking all time great catches, then we need to toss in san fran TE into the mix

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

i don't think it was an all time classic....i think wide right (or was it left), Cool Joe vs. Cincy part 2, the longest yard, pats over rams, and even giants/pats part 1. that's me.

the catch was nice, and will be replayed for years, but i'll take the tyree pass over that one. heck, i thought the catch over the middle early in the game was a better catch...i thought for sure the ball was over thrown, and the dude just skyed for it.

if we are talking all time great catches, then we need to toss in san fran TE into the mix

no doubt. might be a top 10 super bowl game though, in my opinion. 10-15 surely.

i didn't mean it was the absolute best. but a damn good one.

Horos

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

i don't think it was an all time classic....i think wide right (or was it left), Cool Joe vs. Cincy part 2, the longest yard, pats over rams, and even giants/pats part 1. that's me.

the catch was nice, and will be replayed for years, but i'll take the tyree pass over that one. heck, i thought the catch over the middle early in the game was a better catch...i thought for sure the ball was over thrown, and the dude just skyed for it.

if we are talking all time great catches, then we need to toss in san fran TE into the mix

And Lynn Swan

Indifference71 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

dude i couldn't believe it! a saftey on the pats first drive. i posted that i was doing that on facebook so my phone was blowing up throughout the first quarter.

plus i had heads and the giants to receive the kick. 3 big wins 5 minutes into the game....all downhill from there on. :x overall i finished down just a little. thank god for that safety.

Nice work on that safety. I wonder what the odds were that a safety would be the first score of the game.

50/1

Poncier

The Juggler wrote:

Poncier wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

safety by either team +820....BOOM!




seems like a few places have dropped to -2.5:
http://www.covers.com/sports/odds/lineh ... ntid=30593


i bet more will later today as all the late nyg money comes in...

I usually like to play yes on "will either team attempt a 2 pt conversion"...2 yrs ago was floundering a tad, had that prop and Shockey to score a TD and my day turned around in the bklink of an eye.


Vegas has to be rooting for the Pats, lots more money on the Giants.

dude i couldn't believe it! a saftey on the pats first drive. i posted that i was doing that on facebook so my phone was blowing up throughout the first quarter.

plus i had heads and the giants to receive the kick. 3 big wins 5 minutes into the game....all downhill from there on. :x overall i finished down just a little. thank god for that safety.

I was kicking myself...it was +1000 on my site, I had some cushion thanks to a Rangers/Canadiens puckline parlay and almost tossed 50 bucks on it...but didn't. Played my yes on a 2PT conversion attempt at +200, but also added in the Law firm for over 13 carries and Branch to score a TD and Pats -1 at the half.

Down overall on the game, up a little on the day.

RW81233

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

i don't think it was an all time classic....i think wide right (or was it left), Cool Joe vs. Cincy part 2, the longest yard, pats over rams, and even giants/pats part 1. that's me.

the catch was nice, and will be replayed for years, but i'll take the tyree pass over that one. heck, i thought the catch over the middle early in the game was a better catch...i thought for sure the ball was over thrown, and the dude just skyed for it.

if we are talking all time great catches, then we need to toss in san fran TE into the mix

agreed...close crappy football does not equal good football and if you wanna push crappy football time (1998-now) Pats-Panthers, steelers-card, packers-steelers were better

The Juggler

RW81233 wrote:

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i don't know if you're joking or not but that was an all time classic game. eli was great. the pass to manningham will go down as one of the greatest passes in super bowl history.......GOD. DAMN. IT. :x

i don't think it was an all time classic....i think wide right (or was it left), Cool Joe vs. Cincy part 2, the longest yard, pats over rams, and even giants/pats part 1. that's me.

the catch was nice, and will be replayed for years, but i'll take the tyree pass over that one. heck, i thought the catch over the middle early in the game was a better catch...i thought for sure the ball was over thrown, and the dude just skyed for it.

if we are talking all time great catches, then we need to toss in san fran TE into the mix

agreed...close crappy football does not equal good football and if you wanna push crappy football time (1998-now) Pats-Panthers, steelers-card, packers-steelers were better

i'm sorry but i don't see what was so crappy about this game.

there were way more crappy super bowls than this one in the 2 decades preceeding the year you mentioned.

Poncier

The Juggler wrote:

i'm sorry but i don't see what was so crappy about this game.

there were way more crappy super bowls than this one in the 2 decades preceeding the year you mentioned.

I don't get all the talk about this being a lousy game either. Was it pristine, of course not, but It was close throughout, had plenty of 4th Q drama, had one QB start the game with 9 straight completions, had the other throw 16 straight completions at one point, several good plays, yes a few key drops, but a fairly clean game and highly competitive.

Easily beats the hell out of Ravens/Giants, Steeler/Seahawks, Bucs/Raiders, Colts/Bears and Broncos/Falcons if we're looking at games since 98. And right in line with most of the other games in that period.
Heck, even the revered Rams/Titans game which had such a dramatic finish was a horrible game at halftime, with the Rams leading a 9-0 snoozefest, this game was 10-9 at half with a score 8 seconds before the half.

RW81233

Poncier wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i'm sorry but i don't see what was so crappy about this game.

there were way more crappy super bowls than this one in the 2 decades preceeding the year you mentioned.

I don't get all the talk about this being a lousy game either. Was it pristine, of course not, but It was close throughout, had plenty of 4th Q drama, had one QB start the game with 9 straight completions, had the other throw 16 straight completions at one point, several good plays, yes a few key drops, but a fairly clean game and highly competitive.

Easily beats the hell out of Ravens/Giants, Steeler/Seahawks, Bucs/Raiders, Colts/Bears and Broncos/Falcons if we're looking at games since 98. And right in line with most of the other games in that period.
Heck, even the revered Rams/Titans game which had such a dramatic finish was a horrible game at halftime, with the Rams leading a 9-0 snoozefest, this game was 10-9 at half with a score 8 seconds before the half.

Agreed on Steelers/Haws, Colts/Bears, Broncos/Falcons, and the Rams/Titans was the beginning of really shitty football played closely leading to overexaggeration of how good the games/teams were. However the Ravens-Giants was an awesome game when you step back and watch what one of the greatest defenses of all-time did to the Giants, same with Bucs-Raiders there was actual excellence on the field.

Where I differ from you guys is that I prefer watching a or, preferably two, team(s) on the top of their game just teeing off on the other. If it turns into the 9ers rolling the Broncos 55-10, Bears decimating the Pats 46-10, Cowboys smoking the Bills 52-17, and so on then so be it - at least we were sure the team that won was the actual best team at the end of the year. On top of that, when we did get close games they were freaking battles 9ers-Bengals I and II, Bills-Giants, Cowboys-Steelers I and II.

Now we get games so disjointed by 30 minute pre-games with needless talk of military (that was Bills-Giants fault) and ridiculous renditions of god bless tebow and america (thank a lot bin laden), 3 1/2 minute commercials, and 30 minute half-time shows that people think are edgy when someone flips the bird. This actually fundamentally changes the way the game is played (what other sport does this for its championship game?). The result is no one gets any rhythm on offense, the defense doesn't have to sub as much often dramatically tilting the game in favor of the team with the better dline (see: why the pats lost in 08, and a big help two days ago), and a game that has been made artificially close by lack of talent on the field (the drawback of the salary cap). So sure we get Pats-Rams, Panthers-Pats, Pats-Eagles (2 best teams), Rams-Tits, Steelers-Cards (I actually enjoyed this one a lot b/c Warner-Fitzgerald was epic), Gmen-Pats I and II, Pack-Steelers, Saints-Colts (2 best teams), and so on...but most of these games are overrated in their memorialization. For instance, does anyone remember how HORRIBLE eli was in his first SB, or big ben, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? The mythologizing of these QBs performances and the "close" Super Bowls make for great storytime, but don't reflect reality IMO.

neilybabes86

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 39881.html

Poncier

RW81233 wrote:

, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? .

The game winner vs Carolina was a 41 yarder, so he drove them to the 23 or 24.

And as for the 2 GW drives for FG's:

A: Thats all he needed
2: They kicked because the clock was set to expire, not because the defense stopped Brady and co.,
I still marvel at the spike to stop the clock before the game winning field goal against the Rams at how cool and composed he was, bouncing the ball straight back up to his hand and flipping it around like the whole situation was just routine.

Most Qb's rely on their kicker when they are not down 4 points or more in thos 2 minute drills, just the nature of the game...just happens Bill Cundiff isn't as clutch as an Adam Vinatieri or we might be talking about Joe Flacco's MVP performance today.

The Juggler

Poncier wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? .

The game winner vs Carolina was a 41 yarder, so he drove them to the 23 or 24.

And as for the 2 GW drives for FG's:

A: Thats all he needed
2: They kicked because the clock was set to expire, not because the defense stopped Brady and co.,
I still marvel at the spike to stop the clock before the game winning field goal against the Rams at how cool and composed he was, bouncing the ball straight back up to his hand and flipping it around like the whole situation was just routine.

Most Qb's rely on their kicker when they are not down 4 points or more in thos 2 minute drills, just the nature of the game...just happens Bill Cundiff isn't as clutch as an Adam Vinatieri or we might be talking about Joe Flacco's MVP performance today.

i think rw's just hating...

RW81233

there may have been a little subtle dig at pats fans superhero while they wallow in tears of sadness :twisted: . I can go further he won his first SB because of a magically invented rule (not true but fun to toss out), and a kicker, his second because a kicker launched a ball out of bounds and his kicker made one, and a third because the other team's qb puked all over himself. Since then he's impregnated a left a 2nd (if not 3rd woman) lost to Jake Plummer, Payton Manning, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Eli Manning...some guy :roll: .

81

bless the lost bet

The Juggler

RW81233 wrote:

there may have been a little subtle dig at pats fans superhero while they wallow in tears of sadness :twisted: . I can go further he won his first SB because of a magically invented rule (not true but fun to toss out), and a kicker, his second because a kicker launched a ball out of bounds and his kicker made one, and a third because the other team's qb puked all over himself. Since then he's impregnated a left a 2nd (if not 3rd woman) lost to Jake Plummer, Payton Manning, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Eli Manning...some guy :roll: .

yet you worship at the altar of king james who has won what again?

RW81233

I'm taking my son to the game Friday for his 1st Birthday. Besides I was picking on saddened Pats fans, I thought you'd be with me on that one. Also, last I checked (def. could be wrong), Bron Bron may suck in the big moment (debatable - depending on which big moments we choose to look at since he basically carried the Heat to the Finals last year and the Cavs in '04), but he doesn't impregnate and run.

81

That poor kid