STP Shenanigans?
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STP doing some lip synching last night at PNC Pavilion?
Aug
26 Written by: Lisa Biello
8/26/2010 11:55 AM
Talk was rampant at the show last night about lip synching and playing to an audio track or two...and the talk was only exacerbated when Scott Weiland fell on stage, yet oddly enough, still managed to sing through it in perfect pitch!
So, I didn't see the fall. I must've fallen down at the same time. No, just kidding...I had gone to grab a beer. But I heard about it when I got back to my seat. And apparently, he fell really hard. Yet somehow sang through the fall, never missing a beat...and it was all pitch-perfect. His voice never wavered.
That's interesting...because I fall down a lot. And I know when I do it, there is some form of accompanying audio...usually an expletive...but most always a grunt, groan or, depending on how bad it hurt, a giggle or two. But not Scott Weiland. Being the consummate professional he is, he didn't even so much as falter with his lyrics. I looked for it on YouTube today, but so far, there isn't any video of his great fall...Anybody got it? I'd love to see it and judge for myself what happened.
Later, during another song (can't remember which one!) it was pointed out to me that "the CD is skipping" by a man in front of me who had visibly lost a tooth at some point in his life...perhaps when Scott Weiland fell? Anyway, he continued to yell this and point at the stage...which made me pause for a moment and listen. Truth be told, I DID hear something "skip"...something in the background...like the drummer screwed up and missed a beat or two. It was definitely obvious. Yet the band kept going like nothing happened. Anyone else hear that stuff last night??
Either way, as I pointed out to my friend in need of a tooth, I was still a happy concert goer. I told him if I was going to enjoy seeing anyone doing "Stone Temple Pilots karaoke" on stage...it was going to be Stone Temple Pilots. Lip synching, using tracks or whatever, Scott Weiland and crew still know how to perform and I still had a great time.
Aug
26 Written by: Lisa Biello
8/26/2010 11:55 AM
Talk was rampant at the show last night about lip synching and playing to an audio track or two...and the talk was only exacerbated when Scott Weiland fell on stage, yet oddly enough, still managed to sing through it in perfect pitch!
So, I didn't see the fall. I must've fallen down at the same time. No, just kidding...I had gone to grab a beer. But I heard about it when I got back to my seat. And apparently, he fell really hard. Yet somehow sang through the fall, never missing a beat...and it was all pitch-perfect. His voice never wavered.
That's interesting...because I fall down a lot. And I know when I do it, there is some form of accompanying audio...usually an expletive...but most always a grunt, groan or, depending on how bad it hurt, a giggle or two. But not Scott Weiland. Being the consummate professional he is, he didn't even so much as falter with his lyrics. I looked for it on YouTube today, but so far, there isn't any video of his great fall...Anybody got it? I'd love to see it and judge for myself what happened.
Later, during another song (can't remember which one!) it was pointed out to me that "the CD is skipping" by a man in front of me who had visibly lost a tooth at some point in his life...perhaps when Scott Weiland fell? Anyway, he continued to yell this and point at the stage...which made me pause for a moment and listen. Truth be told, I DID hear something "skip"...something in the background...like the drummer screwed up and missed a beat or two. It was definitely obvious. Yet the band kept going like nothing happened. Anyone else hear that stuff last night??
Either way, as I pointed out to my friend in need of a tooth, I was still a happy concert goer. I told him if I was going to enjoy seeing anyone doing "Stone Temple Pilots karaoke" on stage...it was going to be Stone Temple Pilots. Lip synching, using tracks or whatever, Scott Weiland and crew still know how to perform and I still had a great time.
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Sad if it is true.
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Not really...
This should be it.
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So, either he is lip syncing, although he's used to falling off stages and just has lots of practice. I'll place my money on him being used to falling rather than lip syncing.
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lipping to live recorded vocals??
http://grungereport.net/2010/08/29/scot ... -stp-show/
c'mon...wtf else is he gonna to say??
Weiland has never needed to lip sync in the past, as far as live singers go he's pretty decent, but he's far from perfect. Did anyone else watch the video? There's absolutely no evidence of him lip-syncing in it, his voice is full of live imperfections - still sounds pretty good though.
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But why bother? Saw him twice earlier this summer, he definitely sang live, he changed bits up and does so every night. What seems like a rough fall obviously wasn't that bad, because he was back up on stage soon after. Plenty of singers have fakllen off or on the stage and carry on - it's embarrassing, and everyone knows the best way tor respond is to just keep going and pretend it didn't happen.
I'm sure he wasn't lip syncing, he may just have backing tracks going on in addition to his live vocals to make them sound bigger, and the audience heard the backing track while he was down in the hole. Not that hard to believe, I don't think.
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That's just my opinion. I'm not saying it's a fair judgement to make, but I think it is an understandable one. As he seemed to struggle when he was talking about it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_MF5c9qII) it's easy to think 'if he can hardly speak coherently on stage, how can he sing?'
Regardless, the best thing for all concerned is for him to clean himself up before he really hurts himself. When Weiland's on form, it's tough to beat him as a showman but when he's fucked up it's hard to see him as "a straight up professional" or the "best thing on tour today".
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Every time I've seen him live over the last 4 years he speaks incoherently. He can still sing though, are you suggesting he lip synced the new STP album too? How does Ozzy still sing when he can barely speak? Go see the guy live and that will shut any of you up.
Yeah but the vocals did get slightly quieter, consistent with him maybe having slight breathing issues or what not. Also, if rumours about him continuing to use various substances are true, it's entirely possible that he didn't feel any pain. In terms of singing to a backing track - he sings songs slightly differently each time, so it would have sounded wildly inconsistent all night if he was trying to sing along to his own voice. And finally, I think if he were singing along to a backing track, they could have pre-recorded a better vocal, because he didn't sound his best in the videos I've seen.
I watched the video - the evidence is that he fell off the freakin stage, hit real hard, into the photographer pit, couldnt get himself out...needed his crew members to help him out...all the while, still singing Crackerman perfect, as if he were still spinning around on stage.
I saw them last year at Mohegan Sun....they were awesome...no doubt. There were rumors after that show and some others that he was reading the lyrics off a teleprompter. Regardless....the show was awesome, the whole band was spot on and Weiland put on a great show and had tons of energy. They're playing Mohegan Sun again on Tuesday...Im gonna try and score some last minute tix if i can...
Like someone else said earlier - if your gonna watch anyone do STP karaoke, it might as well be STP....I mean, thats not exactly what you had in mind, or thought you were paying for...but its better than going to a show that Scott butchers because he forgot the lyrics or hes too f'd up on pills to sing straight.
Yeah but unless you saw exactly how hard he hit the ground, and whether he was able to keep the mic in hand, you don't know that he wouldn't be able to keep singing or not - you're acting like there isn't any other feasible explanation, when there is. Let's say he hit the deck and stayed lying on the floor for a few seconds so he could still sing the lines he needed to - nothing unbelievable about that, and like I said before, the vocals did get a fair bit quiter and muffled - consistent with him getting his breath back or whatever.
You're also overlooking the fact that he ad-libs way too much to be lip-syncing. Listen to him singing after he gets back up on stage - he always sings songs slightly differently.
unless you were down in that hole with him, there's no way you can state it as fact.
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funny.......I was going to say the same thing!
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His blind faith is throwing all his arguments into the toilet.
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