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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    The Fixer wrote:
    gotta love replay. slows game down and the calls are still wrong.

    Clearly a fumble.
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  • FearTheBeard
    FearTheBeard Posts: 666
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    gotta love replay. slows game down and the calls are still wrong.

    Clearly a fumble.

    I want to know how the fuck that was ruled down on the field when the whistles are not blown? GB should have had to challenge that!
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    gotta love replay. slows game down and the calls are still wrong.

    Clearly a fumble.

    Agree...you have to wonder what ref saw.
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    Bad calls are right up there with cheating for me; it really spoils the game.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    Bad calls are right up there with cheating for me; it really spoils the game.

    I think bad calls are part of sports.

    what's the point of having replay in place if they can't get these obvious calls correct? oh, that's right...so they can force feed us more commercials.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Cocksuckers, this is a 10-3 game
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    Bad calls are right up there with cheating for me; it really spoils the game.

    I think bad calls are part of sports.

    They are, but there's no excuse when we're talking about video replay. Even Packer's fans know they got away with that one.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    I looked like it was probably a fumble, but it wasn't THAT clear of a fumble. One angle they showed made it kind of look like he had control. The angle they kept showing was bad, and you couldn't tell when when he lost control because the entire area of the hands and ball was a blur. He had his hands on the ball, away from his body, but the question was where he lost control. They probably couldn't say for sure, that's why they kept it the way it was. And it should be noted that the refs might not be looking at the same camera angle that we were seeing.

    Besides, the Giants have gotten away with a few already, maybe not as pivotal, but still.
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  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Not at all saying the NFL is fixed, but they clearly want Packers vs Patriots in the big game. The NFL has turned into a soft, pass first, can't touch a WR league. I'm really hoping at least one legit defensive teams gets in. These QB's are becoming WAY overrated because of the current rules. Montana, Marino, Fouts, etc would have put up 50 plus TD's a season if the rules favored the offense as they do now. They've basically dumbed down the game for the casual, Madden playing fan.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
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    fumble
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    lastexit78 wrote:
    Not at all saying the NFL is fixed, but they clearly want Packers vs Patriots in the big game. .

    I don't think so. I would imagine they wanted the Broncos in the big game. That was the biggest story (undeservedly) all season, and it had people who know nothing and normally care nothing about football "Tebowing" and gushing over him. I would bet you anything they were hoping for Denver in the Super Bowl, but they didn't try to fix that, so I don't think they're fixing this.

    Besides, in a game between a small market and big market team it would make sense for the NFL to want the big market to win. I can't think of a reason why the NFL would want Green Bay in the Super Bowl over New York.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    SatansFuton wrote:
    I looked like it was probably a fumble, but it wasn't THAT clear of a fumble. One angle they showed made it kind of look like he had control. The angle they kept showing was bad, and you couldn't tell when when he lost control because the entire area of the hands and ball was a blur. He had his hands on the ball, away from his body, but the question was where he lost control. They probably couldn't say for sure, that's why they kept it the way it was. And it should be noted that the refs might not be looking at the same camera angle that we were seeing.

    Besides, the Giants have gotten away with a few already, maybe not as pivotal, but still.

    It was a clear fumble. It was out the guys hands before his knee or elbow hit. The refs have as many angles as they need to get the call right. And where the fishier part comes in is the ruling on the field. Why weren't there a ton of whistles when the Giants' player recovered the fumble and was returning it.
  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    DewieCox wrote:
    SatansFuton wrote:
    I looked like it was probably a fumble, but it wasn't THAT clear of a fumble. One angle they showed made it kind of look like he had control. The angle they kept showing was bad, and you couldn't tell when when he lost control because the entire area of the hands and ball was a blur. He had his hands on the ball, away from his body, but the question was where he lost control. They probably couldn't say for sure, that's why they kept it the way it was. And it should be noted that the refs might not be looking at the same camera angle that we were seeing.

    Besides, the Giants have gotten away with a few already, maybe not as pivotal, but still.

    It was a clear fumble. It was out the guys hands before his knee or elbow hit. The refs have as many angles as they need to get the call right. And where the fishier part comes in is the ruling on the field. Why weren't there a ton of whistles when the Giants' player recovered the fumble and was returning it.

    I think it probably was a fumble, but I don't think it was clear. The above camera angle showed he still had a hand on the ball (did he have control? probably not) all the way down. I imagine that angle is probably what they saw. Who knows. A little while ago a Giants player clearly delivered a forearm shiver to a GB receivers head and no flag was thrown. You win some you lose some.
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  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    SatansFuton wrote:
    lastexit78 wrote:
    Not at all saying the NFL is fixed, but they clearly want Packers vs Patriots in the big game. .

    I don't think so. I would imagine they wanted the Broncos in the big game. That was the biggest story (undeservedly) all season, and it had people who know nothing and normally care nothing about football "Tebowing" and gushing over him. I would bet you anything they were hoping for Denver in the Super Bowl, but they didn't try to fix that, so I don't think they're fixing this.

    Besides, in a game between a small market and big market team it would make sense for the NFL to want the big market to win. I can't think of a reason why the NFL would want Green Bay in the Super Bowl over New York.

    Market size matters little in the NFL. Most Americans are watching the game regardless. They can sell Brady vs Rodgers as "Battle of the two greatest QB's ever" based on today's inflated stats. It's all about scoring, scoring, scoring. The average NFL fan has the attention span of a 3rd grader.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Now THAT was clearly a fumble.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    13-3
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    20-3
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    whoa
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    I'll hate them next week if they're in SF but I really like this Giants team. Eli is every bit as dangerous as Brady, Brees or Rodgers and that defensive front is among the best. Coughlin is one of the best coaches in the NFL as well. Hope that can hang on in the 2nd half, would love to see them face off against my Niners next week.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cocksuckers, this is a 10-3 game

    Don't be this guy

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    you're better than that. You have the lead, what more do you want? No matter what Rodgers does at this point you should win because of that sieve of a GB defense. You should score on every single drive.
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