Why is the entire VFC movie on REM's Web site and not the 10c???

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  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    That was truely great! Very inspiring and enacting.

    Im a Canadian and I hope for change in America in 08.

    Good luck people.....Do the right thing!
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  • lockedlocked Posts: 4,038
    locked wrote:
    does the movie feature any of the two Boston warm up shows?

    anyone?
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I sensed a subtle undertone to this film...I could be way off.

    Yeah I got that from the movie aswell. It certainly doesn't shy away from making the point that afterall the effort...We still couldn't overcome the apathy and ignorance that plagued recent elections.

    Although we were taking a huge step in the right direction by educating people and getting them involved...It still wasn't enough, we were still dealt another 4 years of Bush. It just shows the fustration of trying to start a ground level movement and the maximum effort that it acutally requires to get the majority (The Youth) off their asses and out to vote. It's not something that can be done half assed; especially when the country is so heavily divided and mostly uninformed.

    The USA was almost like an abused wife in 2004. We had this administration that was beating us up and abusing us on all levels...Yet we decided to forgive them and take the Bush administration back in.

    Perhaps it was Kerry's fault for not inspriing the youth?

    Maybe if nothing else, Obama has been able to do what Kerry could not do....INSPIRE...

    But...that chapter hasn't been written yet, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

    Or take heed from the movie and get out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN; Write the chapter ourselves.


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  • i think ev might have come in too early with the final line in watchtower...

    it would have been better if they did the repeat of the "two riders were approaching" line a few times, and then, went into "and the wind began to howl". this is what i think neil was gonna do...hard to tell though...

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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    locked wrote:
    does the movie feature any of the two Boston warm up shows?

    No, not that I recall. I was hoping as I was at both shows, but nada. However, I was also eating lunch and trying to work while watching it so I might have missed something.
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  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,099
    100 Pacer wrote:
    that footage was stolen from the band, sadly. not to mention, discussion RE: '95 footage is considered taboo around these parts,...
    I don't know what you're talking about ;) and I don't really understand your point. It was stolen so they won't release it now? Or it was stolen and it was the only copy and so they can't release it now? I really doubt that the sole copy was stolen...
  • Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Perhaps it was Kerry's fault for not inspriing the youth?

    Maybe if nothing else, Obama has been able to do what Kerry could not do....INSPIRE...

    Perhaps, but:

    "People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

    "Lewis, we've had presidents who were beloved, who couldn't find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight. People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference."


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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Perhaps, but:

    "People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

    "Lewis, we've had presidents who were beloved, who couldn't find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight. People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference."


    PBM


    That's great.
    I know I've heard that before...But too much wine has made my head and memory soft.

    Where's that from?

    If you don't mind
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,922
    bazzer wrote:
    I don't know what you're talking about ;) and I don't really understand your point. It was stolen so they won't release it now? Or it was stolen and it was the only copy and so they can't release it now? I really doubt that the sole copy was stolen...

    the footage was stolen. there was no further clarification beyond that. the band didn't have a "spare" copy of the footage as the project was never completed,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    That's great.
    I know I've heard that before...But too much wine has made my head and memory soft.

    Where's that from?

    If you don't mind


    the american president

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UAWGN1Wmxc starting at about 2:50
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,118
    totally forgot to get something signed by Mel my movie star when i was in montreal & toronto last august. d'oh! and i sat by her at the ed montreal show's! :)

    sweet! :)
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,922
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    That's great.
    I know I've heard that before...But too much wine has made my head and memory soft.

    Where's that from?

    If you don't mind

    i believe it's from "The American President" movie,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,922
    demetrios wrote:
    totally forgot to get something signed by Mel my movie star when i was in montreal & toronto last august. d'oh! and i sat by her at the ed montreal show's! :)

    sweet! :)

    i just LOL'ed,...

    i know you're kidding haha
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,118
    starts at 22:36! :)
  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    anybody can upload the whole thing in megaupload?
    what is essential is invisible to the eye

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  • whats with the retards huffing the nitrous ballons? weird scene....

    and i love how they cut off the blonde who was confused about her issues, hilarious. not even registered to vote....moron.

    the "pro-life" arguement is the biggest joke for republicans. republicans arent pro-life, they just say they are to get votes and appease the christian right. if they were actually pro-life abortion would have been ended a long time ago and there would have been a lot more effort to overturn roe vs wade by republicans. thank god they havent been more succesfull, but they should stop lying about it.

    oops didnt mean to get preachy...guess the film got to me...uh, eds got a nice red batmobile car...and jeff had a sweet audi...wonder if they still have them both.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,118
    muiren77 wrote:
    anybody can upload the whole thing in megaupload?

    why megaupload? you can watch it directly, and there's a right click save as link posted a few pages back. with download speeds of 1.7 plus mb a sec.

    you can't get speeds like that with megaupload.
  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    demetrios wrote:
    why megaupload? you can watch it directly, and there's a right click save as link posted a few pages back. with download speeds of 1.7 plus mb a sec.

    you can't get speeds like that with megaupload.

    i've watched the whole thing...but would love to burn a copy of it if it's ok...
    what is essential is invisible to the eye

    apparently, 07162056 is THE date...
  • I just finished watching the entire video and all i have to say is i am blown away. I have listened to countless bootlegs and been at shows to hear Eddie talk so much about different issues and politics, but I guess this documentary really puts into perspective to me how informed and passionate he and the rest of the band are about these issues. I think this video shows the band to perfection on stage and off the stage and I am really impressed. As an 18 year old I get to vote for the first time this year and I hope that everyone votes because it really is an important thing to do. Overall though this video was amazing and the songs that were selected were really great, that part with Neil Young was just amazing. I hope this comes out on dvd and that there is some more old pearl jam footage in that "digital lounge" that they keep talking about in the 10club emails.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,118
    muiren77 wrote:
    i've watched the whole thing...but would love to burn a copy of it if it's ok...

    page 3 ..

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5946624&postcount=38
    C2V3N wrote:

    right click and save as.
    can't get any easier then that.
    if you want a copy saved on your hd, right?
  • the bit with ed and jeff at the end is crazy...its like they are telling the future. really good stuff...

    tim robbins snapping pics of the band on stage is great to....fuck it, im a famous actor but this is fucking pearljam im taking some pictures...id be taking pictures to tim....way to go....

    i think its a good video to be released now...like ed said at the end, since we got four more years of bush after all that, maybe now, maybe finally, we will wake up and vote for change!
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  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    demetrios wrote:
    page 3 ..

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5946624&postcount=38



    right click and save as.
    can't get any easier then that.
    if you want a copy saved on your hd, right?

    salamat (thanks) mr. D!
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,118
    muiren77 wrote:
    salamat (thanks) mr. D!

    np! :)
  • all along the watchtower is beyond words
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  • AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,240
    Wow.

    This film moved me. I really don't know how else to describe it. I flew out for the first Boston show and everything was so promising then. This movie brought all that back to me. I saw the Springsteen/REM/Bright Eyes VFC show here in St. Paul (which featured John Fogerty and Neil) and to date that is the best show I've ever been a part of. One month later it was like a punch to the gut. I've never forgotten that, either. I hope that I don't get that feeling again this year.


    On a side note- At the very beginning it says the footage of Of the Girl was in Seattle on 9/28. They had to have been doing that pretty early that day seeing as they had a show on the other side of the country that night.
  • this is great thanks! Great tour. I love the scene with the guys doing whippits. I love the mullet comment. I am just about half way through it.

    Thanks again!

    Edit....I am almost done. And what I really like the variety of people they interviewed. Still top notch. I will be getting this on dvd for sure!!!!
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  • that was awesome, glad i made it to the toledo show....no mccain 08!
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  • stylo17stylo17 Posts: 1,001
    just finished it now, must say, very inspiring, and very well done. absolutely LOVED it. I especially loved how it was filmed on those older types of cameras, I believe they're called "Super 8's"?? "All Along The Watchtower" was phenomenal. I really hope this comes out on dvd.
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