Questions about Mansfield, 7-11-03

BloodRedMosquito

deek74 wrote:

It was announced and was the best show I have ever seen. I do remember them saying they would never play there again. Wish they were playing at the garden.

I was just about to ask that! I could swear I remember him saying something like , we're all done here, see you at the garden.

CantKeepmedown

RedMosquito02 wrote:

Are you serious? This is probably the worst venue to see ANY band let alone, PJ...don't get me wrong I've seen them at Tweeter 7 times, but how can you even remotely think that Tweet is better than seeing them at the Garden? the energy is better in the Garden, sound, etc....

This is kind of along the lines of saying that you would rather see them at Jones Beach than MSG...doesn't make sense to me personally.

They said they would never play the Tweet again and it was the greatest thing I had ever heard PJ related....

So bunmmed that they're playing this shit venue again.....

Oh well, Tweet 8 and 9 here I come : )

You really think the sound is better at the Garden than it is at Tweeter? Really? wow

I think the sound is 10x better at Tweeter. Not to mention, the overall feel, environment, people tailgating, ect. IMO, the only thing better about seeing them at the Garden was the transportation aspect of it. It's obviously easier to get there, and get out, but that's it.

Obviously the sound at Jones Beach sucked, and who in their right mind would choose any venue over MSG?

None of the garden shows (except maybe in 94) hold a candle to the Tweeter shows.

It's all my opionion, of course, am I'm sure everyone will have a blast no matter where they are.

RedMosquito02

BloodRedMosquito wrote:

I was just about to ask that! I could swear I remember him saying something like , we're all done here, see you at the garden.

Yeah, supposedly they were banned from performing there...beacuse of the lack of recognition of the cerfew...Ed also threw out a nice comment about "all the poeple in the trailer park are going to be pissed"...

Inceredible show....

The venue probably looked at the revenue loss from them playing the Garden instead and decided that PJ would be allowed back ; )

I have a horrendous story about the pre-set...I heard it but wasn't able to see it bacause of the bitch at the ticket wondow. I purchased my 10C tix with a friends CC and he was stuck in traffic....the woman wouldn't give me MY tix because I didn't have the CC that was used to purchase them...I had his address/DOB/everything but the actual card, I even had him call the box office to try and get them to release the tix...I had to do all I could to restrain myself from getting booted from the venue....then I would have missed the whole show : /

Vacate

BloodRedMosquito wrote:

I was just about to ask that! I could swear I remember him saying something like , we're all done here, see you at the garden.

My only guess is that the Garden was already booked or maybe some sort of conflict with the Celtics playoffs? Who knows. I think Eddie only said they would never play the Tweeter again was because they kept getting fines and complaints from locals for playing too long. But i would rather see them at the Tweeter, sound is better, setup is better, and you don't have to worry about paying $40 for parking. Plus everyone tailgates and it just has more atmosphere to me then getting lost in the clusterfuck of Boston. And the shows i did see at the Garden a few years ago did have Horrible sound as an earlier post stated.

RedMosquito02

CantKeepmedown wrote:

You really think the sound is better at the Garden than it is at Tweeter? Really? wow

I think the sound is 10x better at Tweeter. Not to mention, the overall feel, environment, people tailgating, ect. IMO, the only thing better about seeing them at the Garden was the transportation aspect of it. It's obviously easier to get there, and get out, but that's it.

Obviously the sound at Jones Beach sucked, and who in their right mind would choose any venue over MSG?

None of the garden shows (except maybe in 94) hold a candle to the Tweeter shows.

It's all my opionion, of course, am I'm sure everyone will have a blast no matter where they are.

I respect your opinion fellow Mainer...where you at, by the way dude?
The transportation itself is probably why I hate the Tweet so much...I have passed up some of my favorite bands there, because of the venue...

Wait, you're trying to say that 5/26/06 (Leash show) doesn't hold a candle to any Tweeter shows? You are wrong there sir, I'm sorry....

CantKeepmedown

RedMosquito02 wrote:

I respect your opinion fellow Mainer...where you at, by the way dude?
The transportation itself is probably why I hate the Tweet so much...I have passed up some of my favorite bands there, because of the venue...

Wait, you're trying to say that 5/26/06 (Leash show) doesn't hold a candle to any Tweeter shows? You are wrong there sir, I'm sorry....

You know, I looked back at that post and realized I may have jumped the gun a bit. The 06 shows at the Garden were great. I guess it was the VFC shows that were a bit underwhelming.

Who am I kidding? All PJ shows are great, and to think that we argue about what venue to see them in. We are spoiled.

To be honest, I enjoy the tailgating with friends at Tweeter much more than I do hanging out in bars in Boston. It's much cheaper, and everyone can be together. Honestly, I have a group of about 30 going down this summer, full on with grills, coolers, and everything else you can imagine. I guess that's what it comes down to for me.......the overall pre-show get together.

I didn't even see your location. I recently just bought a house in So Portland, but have lived on Cumberland Ave, near the base of Munjoy Hill, as well as living in North Deering for awhile. Whereabouts are you?

GreenTeaDisease

RedMosquito02 wrote:

Are you serious? This is probably the worst venue to see ANY band let alone, PJ...don't get me wrong I've seen them at Tweeter 7 times, but how can you even remotely think that Tweet is better than seeing them at the Garden? the energy is better in the Garden, sound, etc....

This is kind of along the lines of saying that you would rather see them at Jones Beach than MSG...doesn't make sense to me personally.

They said they would never play the Tweet again and it was the greatest thing I had ever heard PJ related....

So bunmmed that they're playing this shit venue again.....

Oh well, Tweet 8 and 9 here I come : )

totally agree with you red.

the sound is probably technically better at the tweeter center, but I love how loud and contained it is in arenas. and you're right the energy is better. those amphitheaters weren't designed for rock shows IMO. there's too much empty space, I feel too far away from the band and the other fans. Arenas are just more intimate.

also, living in the city, it bums me out to have to drive out to god knows where for a show. all that traffic and stuff, blegh. when they play the garden, you just hop on the T and you're home in bed in 30 minutes.

RedMosquito02

CantKeepmedown wrote:

You know, I looked back at that post and realized I may have jumped the gun a bit. The 06 shows at the Garden were great. I guess it was the VFC shows that were a bit underwhelming.

Who am I kidding? All PJ shows are great, and to think that we argue about what venue to see them in. We are spoiled.

To be honest, I enjoy the tailgating with friends at Tweeter much more than I do hanging out in bars in Boston. It's much cheaper, and everyone can be together. Honestly, I have a group of about 30 going down this summer, full on with grills, coolers, and everything else you can imagine. I guess that's what it comes down to for me.......the overall pre-show get together.

I didn't even see your location. I recently just bought a house in So Portland, but have lived on Cumberland Ave, near the base of Munjoy Hill, as well as living in North Deering for awhile. Whereabouts are you?

Originally from Waterville...Right now I'm living on Grant St. (ghetto as I'm sure you're aware of), but will soon be moving into Baxter Place on Commercial....

My good friend has a coffee shop on the hill, Hilltop Coffee, I'm sure you've been there...it's a great little place.

I work in marketing at a small agency, emg3, in town....love it

I bring my dog over to Hinckley Park daily, over in So Po.....you in that area?

Taker easy dude....

locked

rolling the dice wrote:

I the July 3rd show (2nd show) was great. It doesn't get any attention because of the July 11 show, but it was one of the better shows I have been to. I think with the July 4th holdiday on deck, people let loose that day.

agreed.. Mikey was going apeshit on the guitar all night..
wicked rowdy crowd! (saturday night)

(Animal, LBC, Corduroy and Crazy Mary in particular )

and what a setlist!
July 3, 2003 - Tweeter Center; Mansfield, Massachusetts
Opening: Buzzcocks
Ed solo before opening band:
You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

Set List:
Release, Animal, Gods' Dice, Do The Evolution, Insignificance, Love Boat Captain, I Got Shit, Low Light, Rival, Lukin, Not For You, Daughter, You Are, In Hiding, I Am A Patriot, Once, Rearviewmirror;

1st encore: Driven To Tears, Corduroy, Soldier Of Love, Crazy Mary, Alive;

2nd encore: Baba O'Riley, Yellow Ledbetter

locked

this is what was posted before night #3 on the PJ site Synergy:

Again, can you believe tickets were still available?
what kind of an idiot couldn't figure this was a "have to witness this" event????

7/11/2003 - Pearl Jam To Open 3rd Boston Show With Extra One-Hour Set


Pearl Jam
With Special Guest Sleater-Kinney
At the Tweeter Center
Friday, July 11, 2003

Boston – In order to accomplish their goal of performing their entire current repertoire over the course of the three Boston shows while not repeating a single song, Pearl Jam will play an extra one hour set at 6:30 p.m. before Sleater-Kinney takes the stage.

The revised show schedule looks like this:
- 5:30 p.m. Doors open
- 6:30 p.m. Pearl Jam plays extra one hour set
- 7:30 p.m. Sleater-Kinney
- 8:45 p.m. Pearl Jam

Tickets for Pearl Jam are still available through the Tweeter Center Box Office and at Ticketmaster outlets, including Filene's, by calling (617/508) 931-2000, or (617) 228-6000, or by logging on to http://www.cc.com. Tickets are $38.00 reserved and $34.00 lawn plus a $6.50 facility fee and applicable Ticketmaster service charges. Parking available at no additional charge. DOORS: 5:30 p.m.

pjmaniac

CantKeepmedown wrote:

You know, I looked back at that post and realized I may have jumped the gun a bit. The 06 shows at the Garden were great. I guess it was the VFC shows that were a bit underwhelming.

Who am I kidding? All PJ shows are great, and to think that we argue about what venue to see them in. We are spoiled.

To be honest, I enjoy the tailgating with friends at Tweeter much more than I do hanging out in bars in Boston. It's much cheaper, and everyone can be together. Honestly, I have a group of about 30 going down this summer, full on with grills, coolers, and everything else you can imagine. I guess that's what it comes down to for me.......the overall pre-show get together.

I didn't even see your location. I recently just bought a house in So Portland, but have lived on Cumberland Ave, near the base of Munjoy Hill, as well as living in North Deering for awhile. Whereabouts are you?

Chief?? Looking forward to another great time this year at the Tweet. Getting all 30 of us together for a show is always fucking fabulous!

kh65

Crazy Breed wrote:

fuck that!! i like having the train as my designated driver to the Garden! the drive to Mansfield sucks no matter what time you drive (and I'm less than an hour away)

Totally agree. The Garden is much better and central to all the Boston fans.

Hooch

locked wrote:

this is what was posted before night #3 on the PJ site Synergy:

Again, can you believe tickets were still available?
what kind of an idiot couldn't figure this was a "have to witness this" event????

7/11/2003 - Pearl Jam To Open 3rd Boston Show With Extra One-Hour Set


Pearl Jam
With Special Guest Sleater-Kinney
At the Tweeter Center
Friday, July 11, 2003

Boston – In order to accomplish their goal of performing their entire current repertoire over the course of the three Boston shows while not repeating a single song, Pearl Jam will play an extra one hour set at 6:30 p.m. before Sleater-Kinney takes the stage.

The revised show schedule looks like this:
- 5:30 p.m. Doors open
- 6:30 p.m. Pearl Jam plays extra one hour set
- 7:30 p.m. Sleater-Kinney
- 8:45 p.m. Pearl Jam

Tickets for Pearl Jam are still available through the Tweeter Center Box Office and at Ticketmaster outlets, including Filene's, by calling (617/508) 931-2000, or (617) 228-6000, or by logging on to http://www.cc.com. Tickets are $38.00 reserved and $34.00 lawn plus a $6.50 facility fee and applicable Ticketmaster service charges. Parking available at no additional charge. DOORS: 5:30 p.m.

Went down without tickets, not knowing there were tons still available. We passed up a few scalpers on our way to the box office. Got in the longest line in history before realizing the ticket window had no line. Got 2 great seats and witnessed one of the best concerts ever... Long Road was amazing; All Or None just blew my mind though. Oh yeah, and then about 3 hours later they closed with Arc...

The only down side was that the dumbass I am only wore a t-shirt and it was cold and drizzling. Didn't matter though, a bunch of beers and an epic performance kept me warm... (would have been perfect if they didn't bring sleater kantsing out for the last encore)

NewJPage

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

those amphitheaters weren't designed for rock shows IMO. there's too much empty space, I feel too far away from the band and the other fans. Arenas are just more intimate.

uhhh... amphitheaters are specifically designed for rock shows. now, all not designed well, and the sound can blow (i've got the World near me in chicago, which majorly sucks...luckily PJ has never played there...), but they are for shows and shows only. arenas are designed for basketball and hockey. the sound is usually shite in them. in terms of this specific discussion, i can not comment as i have not been to either venue out east. i can understand wanting to see a show at MSG, but the Garden isnt even the Garden anymore...has the new venue retained a nice atmosphere? cause the united center in chicago is cold and sterile, for a concert or ballgame.

prince119

They played the Gorge in '05 by "opening for themselves" I know it is different because there was no scheduled opening act on the tickets (like Sleater was in Mansfiled) but to have the band come out in the daylight and play seated/acoustic for an hour was incredible.

Then they came out and rocked for a full set and encores.

It was a very special experience.

Mansfield is one of my fav boots by the way.......that and Katovice.

BinFrog

Hooch wrote:

Went down without tickets, not knowing there were tons still available. We passed up a few scalpers on our way to the box office. Got in the longest line in history before realizing the ticket window had no line. Got 2 great seats and witnessed one of the best concerts ever... Long Road was amazing; All Or None just blew my mind though. Oh yeah, and then about 3 hours later they closed with Arc...

(They didn't close with Arc)

GreenTeaDisease

NewJPage wrote:

uhhh... amphitheaters are specifically designed for rock shows. now, all not designed well, and the sound can blow (i've got the World near me in chicago, which majorly sucks...luckily PJ has never played there...), but they are for shows and shows only. arenas are designed for basketball and hockey. the sound is usually shite in them. in terms of this specific discussion, i can not comment as i have not been to either venue out east. i can understand wanting to see a show at MSG, but the Garden isnt even the Garden anymore...has the new venue retained a nice atmosphere? cause the united center in chicago is cold and sterile, for a concert or ballgame.

they are designed for music, yes, but not ROCK music. they are more for like andrea boccelli.

as I said, the sound is not technically as good in arenas as they are not designed for music, but I like how LOUD it gets and how CONTAINED the sound is. I like how it sort of distorts against the metal ceilings and stuff.

BinFrog

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

they are designed for music, yes, but not ROCK music. they are more for like andrea boccelli.

as I said, the sound is not technically as good in arenas as they are not designed for music, but I like how LOUD it gets and how CONTAINED the sound is. I like how it sort of distorts against the metal ceilings and stuff.

Places like the Tweeter Centers are most certainly designed for rock music.

GreenTeaDisease

BinFrog wrote:

Places like the Tweeter Centers are most certainly designed for rock music.

really? they seem like, dorky to me. and they're so big and spread out.

BinFrog

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

really? they seem like, dorky to me. and they're so big and spread out.

Some venues like SPAC were setup for shows like you have in mind, but the 1-size-fits-all ampitheaters like Mansfield/Hartford/Camden/Chicago are primarily for rock concerts and music in general.