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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    pjhawks said:
    An art student is on full scholarship and sells a painting, what happens?

    An athlete is on full scholarship and sells his autograph, what happens?
    When lose the argument change the argument, Your changing your argument but I’ll play along. If you think an art student gets anywhere close to what a football player at Alabama gets then I don’t know what to tell ya, go watch the hbo 24/7 on the college teams they did this year and tell me they aren’t a1000x better off than a fucking art student. Just stop
    I’ve been talking about art students in 2 out of my 4 posts on the topic this evening so not sure I changed the topic...

    The point remains, art students on full scholarship whether it be to Delaware, St joes, or Alabama can make money off their skills. The athletes on the comparable scholarships cannot

     I played PlayStation in the Syracuse athlete dorms, I’ve partied in the Cornell frat houses, I never paid for a meal plan in college. Seen it all. If Saban is making 9 million off the players he recruits, they should be able to sell their fucking signature for gods sake 
    "Good thing nick Saban is making $10 million this year and tua is making $0. Their lives will be impacted in the right ways... "

    that's your original quote.  i showed you that tua is not making $0 then you changed argument to compare to an art student. 

    ask your buddy's brother at Evansville if he wants to change places with an art student.  i'm guessing yea no that's not gonna happen.

    and for the record i think the players should be able to sell their likeness and will be able to soon. the issue is how that work though. there are a lot of issues to work out with that.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,023
    Tua is technically making zero just like I made zero playing shit division 2 soccer. He just had nicer dorms, nicer gyms, better food, better girls and better gear, though we had some pretty fucking sweet Nike gear. Both of us were still making zilch

    Neither Evansville art student or athlete is probably going to do that well. Basketball player will probably play overseas for 5 or so years and make less than $100k per year to come back to coaching or training, if he’s lucky. Art student will work a variety of creative jobs that they probably hate.  Both should own their names and make wherever they can off them. 


  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    Tua is technically making zero just like I made zero playing shit division 2 soccer. He just had nicer dorms, nicer gyms, better food, better girls and better gear, though we had some pretty fucking sweet Nike gear. Both of us were still making zilch

    Neither Evansville art student or athlete is probably going to do that well. Basketball player will probably play overseas for 5 or so years and make less than $100k per year to come back to coaching or training, if he’s lucky. Art student will work a variety of creative jobs that they probably hate.  Both should own their names and make wherever they can off them. 


    wrong.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    Strange world when Alabama can brag about Better Girls.
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,244
    anyway, ^^^^^ I was at the Utah game last night and they were at a whole 'nuther level than UCLA....faster, more disciplined, better coached, more skilled, etc.

    that said, I don't think they're ready to be a CFP team.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    pjhawks said:
    An art student is on full scholarship and sells a painting, what happens?

    An athlete is on full scholarship and sells his autograph, what happens?
    When lose the argument change the argument, Your changing your argument but I’ll play along. If you think an art student gets anywhere close to what a football player at Alabama gets then I don’t know what to tell ya, go watch the hbo 24/7 on the college teams they did this year and tell me they aren’t a1000x better off than a fucking art student. Just stop
    I’ve been talking about art students in 2 out of my 4 posts on the topic this evening so not sure I changed the topic...

    The point remains, art students on full scholarship whether it be to Delaware, St joes, or Alabama can make money off their skills. The athletes on the comparable scholarships cannot

     I played PlayStation in the Syracuse athlete dorms, I’ve partied in the Cornell frat houses, I never paid for a meal plan in college. Seen it all. If Saban is making 9 million off the players he recruits, they should be able to sell their fucking signature for gods sake 
    Do art students get full-ride scholarships for their art from the school? I know there are probably third parties that offer scholarships for art, but I just assumed if an art student is getting a scholarship from the school it is probably academic based, and not just from their art.

    Either way I would think what a student does on their own time is not the college or NCAA's concern. IF an art students want to paint and sell art on the side, fine. If an athlete wants to coach middle school on the side, fine. But seems reasonable to not expect them to make additional money for what they are already doing for the school (being paid to play the game or whatever it is an art student would be doing).

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,315
    mace1229 said:
    pjhawks said:
    An art student is on full scholarship and sells a painting, what happens?

    An athlete is on full scholarship and sells his autograph, what happens?
    When lose the argument change the argument, Your changing your argument but I’ll play along. If you think an art student gets anywhere close to what a football player at Alabama gets then I don’t know what to tell ya, go watch the hbo 24/7 on the college teams they did this year and tell me they aren’t a1000x better off than a fucking art student. Just stop
    I’ve been talking about art students in 2 out of my 4 posts on the topic this evening so not sure I changed the topic...

    The point remains, art students on full scholarship whether it be to Delaware, St joes, or Alabama can make money off their skills. The athletes on the comparable scholarships cannot

     I played PlayStation in the Syracuse athlete dorms, I’ve partied in the Cornell frat houses, I never paid for a meal plan in college. Seen it all. If Saban is making 9 million off the players he recruits, they should be able to sell their fucking signature for gods sake 
    Do art students get full-ride scholarships for their art from the school? I know there are probably third parties that offer scholarships for art, but I just assumed if an art student is getting a scholarship from the school it is probably academic based, and not just from their art.

    Either way I would think what a student does on their own time is not the college or NCAA's concern. IF an art students want to paint and sell art on the side, fine. If an athlete wants to coach middle school on the side, fine. But seems reasonable to not expect them to make additional money for what they are already doing for the school (being paid to play the game or whatever it is an art student would be doing).

    my stepdaughter majored in art and graduated with a degree. At her school, her final exam was a themed art project, one which was shown by the school and each piece was for sale.....

    she is now a wickedly talented tattoo artist doing pretty good for her short experience in that field.
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Chase Young is the best player in college football this year.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,244
    if bama beats auburn, those fuckers are in.....again :angry:
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    I think there is more to it than that....will be interesting to see how it plays out
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,244
    I think there is more to it than that....will be interesting to see how it plays out
    I dunno.....they’ll be one of the one loss teams and their one loss will have been to #1. if they lose again, they’re done. an LSU loss might let someone it, too, but I don’t see that happening.
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    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,346
    This definitely feels like the most wide open CFP race so far, doesn't it? So many legitimate scenarios. 
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    Go Dawgs!!!!
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  • Because of Georgia's unimpressive win against A&M and Alabama's shellacking of WCU they get 4th place.

    Oklahoma and Utah will be the other 2 odd man out teams w 1 loss.

    Next week has Nothing crazy.  OSU should walk all over Mich and the other entertaining game would be Alabama and Auburn.

    The polls should have LSU, OSU Clemson and Bama in the top 4. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    I think Bamas win should be meaningless.  Playing a JV team at this point of the season is even more of a joke than starting with one.
    I don't put them at 4, but we will see.  (I say UGA)
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  • I think Bamas win should be meaningless.  Playing a JV team at this point of the season is even more of a joke than starting with one.
    I don't put them at 4, but we will see.  (I say UGA)
    Exactly.  Georgia barely beat a shit team.  That always holds weight.

    LSU will be 4.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    Don't think so.  
    We will see what the committee says.
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  • Don't think so.  
    We will see what the committee says.
    Theres always the LSU Georgia game too.  Georgia loses that and Bama is in.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,244
    Don't think so.  
    We will see what the committee says.
    Theres always the LSU Georgia game too.  Georgia loses that and Bama is in.
    This is what I see happening.
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    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22