700 people a day are dying in Moscow

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edited August 2010 in A Moving Train
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,419
    they said it might be the hottest heat wave in over 1000 years....wow...i tried to copy and paste the text of the article but my browser window kept locking up...
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    as in the flooding in pakistan ... more fatal consequences of climate change ... and as per usual, it is predominantly the poor who suffer most ... :(
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    as in the flooding in pakistan ... more fatal consequences of climate change ... and as per usual, it is predominantly the poor who suffer most ... :(
    yet nobody will agree that climate change is happening. they would rather talk about al gore allegedly sexually harrassing a maseusse (sp??) than the real issues and the real science and the real data.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yet nobody will agree that climate change is happening. they would rather talk about al gore allegedly sexually harrassing a maseusse (sp??) than the real issues and the real science and the real data.

    most people already agree ... it's just the fat cats don't want to do anything about it because they've made their millions exploiting the poor - why stop now!?? ... plus, all it takes is a well-crafted PR and propoganda campaign for many peeps to ignore the issue ...
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    polaris_x wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yet nobody will agree that climate change is happening. they would rather talk about al gore allegedly sexually harrassing a maseusse (sp??) than the real issues and the real science and the real data.

    most people already agree ... it's just the fat cats don't want to do anything about it because they've made their millions exploiting the poor - why stop now!?? ... plus, all it takes is a well-crafted PR and propoganda campaign for many peeps to ignore the issue ...
    The less you believe in climate change, the less responsible you have to be towards the planet.
    Or so it would seem.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Is this event in Russia directly caused by climate change? Is it a 100 year event? Who knows . . .

    But it is sad to see this. They are suffering from a combination of high temperatures, forest fires, horrible air quality and antiquated buildings still linked to the soviet era building codes (or lack thereof).
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    Is this event in Russia directly caused by climate change? Is it a 100 year event? Who knows . . .

    But it is sad to see this. They are suffering from a combination of high temperatures, forest fires, horrible air quality and antiquated buildings still linked to the soviet era building codes (or lack thereof).

    dude ... there are devastating floods in pakistan, massive mudslides in china ... drought and heat in russia ... the immediate consequence of increased global temperatures are more extreme weather ... this has been the foundation of global climate change for over a decade ... it will only get worse ...

    everywhere you look people are saying ... it's the warmest this, coldest that, wettest season, etc ...
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    I hope this dosent come to the US. We would be due for a Air Conditioning / air respirators reform and declare it a human rite, since people (especially poor) are dying from it.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Is this event in Russia directly caused by climate change? Is it a 100 year event? Who knows . . .

    But it is sad to see this. They are suffering from a combination of high temperatures, forest fires, horrible air quality and antiquated buildings still linked to the soviet era building codes (or lack thereof).

    dude ... there are devastating floods in pakistan, massive mudslides in china ... drought and heat in russia ... the immediate consequence of increased global temperatures are more extreme weather ... this has been the foundation of global climate change for over a decade ... it will only get worse ...

    everywhere you look people are saying ... it's the warmest this, coldest that, wettest season, etc ...
    All of what your explaining has happend in before and will happen again, and continues to happen. Thats just the way the earth works, it goes in cycles. But let me guess... We humans can prevent it all right?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,419
    HeidiJam wrote:
    I hope this dosent come to the US. We would be due for a Air Conditioning / air respirators reform and declare it a human rite, since people (especially poor) are dying from it.
    poor ARE dying from this heat in the US every day. two died here in st. louis yesterday. the poor and the homeless do not have air conditioning, remember?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    I hope this dosent come to the US. We would be due for a Air Conditioning / air respirators reform and declare it a human rite, since people (especially poor) are dying from it.
    poor ARE dying from this heat in the US every day. two died here in st. louis yesterday. the poor and the homeless do not have air conditioning, remember?
    My dad didn't have A/C growing up whats your point. And yes poor people do have A/C. Section 8 housing where i live most certinly comes with A/C. My point was 700 is alot, if this were to happen you would probably deem AC a rite for poor people because they can't afford it. Am I right?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    HeidiJam wrote:
    All of what your explaining has happend in before and will happen again, and continues to happen. Thats just the way the earth works, it goes in cycles. But let me guess... We humans can prevent it all right?

    i'm sorry you have no interest in educating yourself on the science of climate change ... do you even KNOW how the earth works? ... do you even understand the fundamentals of meteorology? ... i suspect you do not ...

    these devastating events are caused by man ... most people in this world know this ... why you do not is troubling and sad ...
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    HeidiJam wrote:
    ... AC a rite ....?
    The rite of the A/C. All bow to it! :lol:

    You are taking the piss, aren't you? Your posts are just there to rub everyone the wrong way. You're doing it on purpose, aren't you? It can't be that the kind of things you say are what you teach your kid/kids?
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    redrock wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    ... AC a rite ....?
    The rite of the A/C. All bow to it! :lol:

    You are taking the piss, aren't you? Your posts are just there to rub everyone the wrong way. You're doing it on purpose, aren't you? It can't be that the kind of things you say are what you teach your kid/kids?
    I teach my kids to be responsible, since they will be pay for your kids "rite" and the rest of lazy US to live.
    Do you have an issue with me teaching my kids personal responsibilities?
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    polaris_x wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    All of what your explaining has happend in before and will happen again, and continues to happen. Thats just the way the earth works, it goes in cycles. But let me guess... We humans can prevent it all right?

    i'm sorry you have no interest in educating yourself on the science of climate change ... do you even KNOW how the earth works? ... do you even understand the fundamentals of meteorology? ... i suspect you do not ...

    these devastating events are caused by man ... most people in this world know this ... why you do not is troubling and sad ...
    Please link me scientific proof read journals / articles (peer reviewed) laying out the science of climate change and what/which devastating events are caused by man. Please don't post again about this until you have your sources.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,419
    HeidiJam wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    I hope this dosent come to the US. We would be due for a Air Conditioning / air respirators reform and declare it a human rite, since people (especially poor) are dying from it.
    poor ARE dying from this heat in the US every day. two died here in st. louis yesterday. the poor and the homeless do not have air conditioning, remember?
    My dad didn't have A/C growing up whats your point. And yes poor people do have A/C. Section 8 housing where i live most certinly comes with A/C. My point was 700 is alot, if this were to happen you would probably deem AC a rite for poor people because they can't afford it. Am I right?
    your dad didn't have ac, so what? was the heat the same back then as it is now? your post was condescending and exaggerating and extremely far reaching in assuming that those of us on here who actually care about human beings would arbitrarily dub everything a human right. it makes you sound like a fool.

    you don't know me, so you should stop making assumptions ok? i never said ac is a "rite" and by the way please learn the difference between a "rite" and a "right"....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    HeidiJam wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    ... AC a rite ....?
    The rite of the A/C. All bow to it! :lol:

    You are taking the piss, aren't you? Your posts are just there to rub everyone the wrong way. You're doing it on purpose, aren't you? It can't be that the kind of things you say are what you teach your kid/kids?
    I teach my kids to be responsible, since they will be pay for your kids "rite" and the rest of lazy US to live.
    Do you have an issue with me teaching my kids personal responsibilities?

    Personal responsibility goes beyond being selfish, exclusive and 'insular'. Personal responsibility is also being part of humanity and understanding how we are as a collective and making this collective work. You seem to think that besides you and your family, all are lazy bastards trying to live off of 'your' money. Nothing that is not in your immediate control seems to be your responsibility (ie the planet, etc.). Not the way I have taught my kid. BTW.. your kids will never have to pay for my kid's rights (note: in this context, right has nothing to do with rite).

    I still think you're trolling.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Please link me scientific proof read journals / articles (peer reviewed) laying out the science of climate change and what/which devastating events are caused by man. Please don't post again about this until you have your sources.

    haha ... you can't be serious? ...

    first of all - i don't see what gives you the authority to say whether i can post again or not ... in any case - feel free to look up the IPCC reports ... it's only the leading scientists on the subject but I suspect your mind is already made up on this ...

    i have an environmental science degree and spent two work terms working with the climate related agencies ... i know what i know because i've studied it ... what i find truly sad is that you are asking for (peer reviewed) articles when every single article that counters anthropogenic climate change has not been peer reviewed ...
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    polaris_x wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Please link me scientific proof read journals / articles (peer reviewed) laying out the science of climate change and what/which devastating events are caused by man. Please don't post again about this until you have your sources.

    haha ... you can't be serious? ...

    first of all - i don't see what gives you the authority to say whether i can post again or not ... in any case - feel free to look up the IPCC reports ... it's only the leading scientists on the subject but I suspect your mind is already made up on this ...

    i have an environmental science degree and spent two work terms working with the climate related agencies ... i know what i know because i've studied it ... what i find truly sad is that you are asking for (peer reviewed) articles when every single article that counters anthropogenic climate change has not been peer reviewed ...
    I asked a simple question, and you clearly have no link to your "proof" working in a field does not make you an expert. I guess since you worked in the field and you have a degree you must be correct? What abou tall those 9/11 architects and engineers that go against the offical story. THey have degrees and spent more than two working terms in their related field. Is that enough to convince you???
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    HeidiJam wrote:
    I asked a simple question, and you clearly have no link to your "proof" working in a field does not make you an expert. I guess since you worked in the field and you have a degree you must be correct? What abou tall those 9/11 architects and engineers that go against the offical story. THey have degrees and spent more than two working terms in their related field. Is that enough to convince you???

    uhhh ... i have a plethora of articles and links but you could easily look those up yourself ... so, why don't you? ... why should i waste my time posting links that you are going to ignore anyways!?? ...

    you are right tho - just because i've actually studied it doesn't necessarily make me an expert ... but i do have the fundamental knowledge of the science and can understand it's workings ... what do you know that makes you certain this is not caused by man? ... you don't need a degree in anything but you must at least be educated in something that will give you insight otherwise your just relying on others to form your opinion ...

    as for your example ... at least you can have discussions with said engineers and refute and debate because there is a core understanding of the science ... what do you know about earth sciences, meteorology, climatology that allows you to know for certain?

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