Along with PJ and Alice in Chains, the Crows were in my holy trinity of favorite bands growing up.
Today, they suck ass.
Why?
cuz Adam Duritz has fake dreads :x
and there are like 8 band members...and the only original member left is fake dreads
and because Adam Duritz feels the need to change the way he sings songs live, which in turn makes them suck ass.
I used to like them too...i know...its sad.
Actually, of the seven members that are in the band now 3 are originals (Adam, Charlie and David Bryson), Dan has been with them since just after "August And Everything After" out and, although he didn't officially join until 1999, David Immerglück has played with them since the beginning (including playing on "August And Everything After"). Sorry to be picky but...
Like I've said before, I like the way that Adam changes the way that he sings the songs live. I'd rather that than he forgets the words to his own songs like a certain other singer that we all love so much...
“Do not postpone happiness”
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Like I've said before, I like the way that Adam changes the way that he sings the songs live. I'd rather that than he forgets the words to his own songs like a certain other singer that we all love so much...
What and Adam doesn't ever forget words to his songs? Sorry but that seems like a really odd statement you're making there - a rambling tuneless vocal performance can ruin a song, far more so than someone forgetting the odd word here or there. I don't want to sound harsh so please forgive me, but it sounds a little bit fanboy-ish, like you'll accept any old shit just because it's 'unique'. Sure some improvisations can work, but some aren't going to work so well. A lot of the time it just sounds indulgent, like he's forgotten who he's there to sing for.
Like I've said before, I like the way that Adam changes the way that he sings the songs live. I'd rather that than he forgets the words to his own songs like a certain other singer that we all love so much...
What and Adam doesn't ever forget words to his songs? Sorry but that seems like a really odd statement you're making there - a rambling tuneless vocal performance can ruin a song, far more so than someone forgetting the odd word here or there. I don't want to sound harsh so please forgive me, but it sounds a little bit fanboy-ish, like you'll accept any old shit just because it's 'unique'. Sure some improvisations can work, but some aren't going to work so well. A lot of the time it just sounds indulgent, like he's forgotten who he's there to sing for.
We've all seen singers butcher the National Anthem trying to be 'unique' or in the name of spicing it up or showing off....from what I've heard of the Crows live....Adam pretty much slaughters every song at some point or another and it is bad....very bad.
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Like I've said before, I like the way that Adam changes the way that he sings the songs live. I'd rather that than he forgets the words to his own songs like a certain other singer that we all love so much...
What and Adam doesn't ever forget words to his songs? Sorry but that seems like a really odd statement you're making there - a rambling tuneless vocal performance can ruin a song, far more so than someone forgetting the odd word here or there. I don't want to sound harsh so please forgive me, but it sounds a little bit fanboy-ish, like you'll accept any old shit just because it's 'unique'. Sure some improvisations can work, but some aren't going to work so well. A lot of the time it just sounds indulgent, like he's forgotten who he's there to sing for.
I didn't say that Counting Crows were perfect, or that I'd "accept any old shit", but I have never been disappointed at a Counting Crows show and I enjoy the way that Adam Duritz sings live. As I said in my first post, it's just one of those things that you either love or hate. The OP and others here clearly hate it but that's their opinion. If that makes me sound "fanboy-ish" then I apologise for having a different opinion to you. Peace.
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Mr. America, real men listen to the Black Crowes, not the Counting Crows. You'll thank me on your wedding night. Carry on. This has been a public service announcement.
The Black Crowes fucking own...
...yes sir, they certainly do!
“Do not postpone happiness”
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If that makes me sound "fanboy-ish" then I apologise for having a different opinion to you. Peace.
No the differing opinion isn't what makes it sound fanboy-ish, it's that you're ignoring the fact that sometimes the improv is going to be good - even better than the album version, and sometimes it will be worse. What it seems like you're saying, is that you don't care what it sounds like as long as it's different to the original, and sounds 'unique' to that show.
Whatever happened to this band? I know they toured a lot from 2002-2004, and toured a bit intermittently since, but something's gotta happen soon.
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Adam Duritz has decided to let everyone know he is still alive by making a solo album.
It's just him and a piano, doing one song in his house per night for the week of Valentine's Day.
It's mainly rought demos of cover versions, and just a bit of fun.
Some fan has made an album cover for it.
The 'album' is called: "All My Bloody Valentines", and can be downloaded from the Counting Crows Facebook page.
Tracklist:
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 1)
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 2)
My Sweet Carolina
Rainbow Sleeves
You Might Think
Valentine's Day (version 1)
Valentine's Day (version 2)
On the Sunny Side of the Street
The Dark End of the Street
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Adam Duritz has decided to let everyone know he is still alive by making a solo album.
It's just him and a piano, doing one song in his house per night for the week of Valentine's Day.
It's mainly rought demos of cover versions, and just a bit of fun.
Some fan has made an album cover for it.
The 'album' is called: "All My Bloody Valentines", and can be downloaded from the Counting Crows Facebook page.
Tracklist:
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 1)
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 2)
My Sweet Carolina
Rainbow Sleeves
You Might Think
Valentine's Day (version 1)
Valentine's Day (version 2)
On the Sunny Side of the Street
The Dark End of the Street
Awesome. Thanks for posting this.
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Here's the original songwriting credits to the songs on "All My Bloody Valentines".
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 1) :Bob Dylan
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 2) :Bob Dylan
My Sweet Carolina :Ryan Adams
Rainbow Sleeves :Rickie Lee Jones
You Might Think :The Cars
Valentine's Day (version 1) :Steve Earle
Valentine's Day (version 2) :Steve Earle
On the Sunny Side of the Street :Jimmy McHugh/Dorothy Fields (a Jazz standard)
The Dark End of the Street :Dan Penn/Chips Morgan (covered by everybody in the world, according to Wikipedia)
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Counting Crows was the first band I ever got into; I think August is a fantastic album.
As for them live, I saw them once, and was intrigued that he mashed so many songs together, borrowing lyrics from other songs and switching up the melodies. I don't know if I've ever seen an artist do that before.
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Counting Crows was the first band I ever got into; I think August is a fantastic album.
As for them live, I saw them once, and was intrigued that he mashed so many songs together, borrowing lyrics from other songs and switching up the melodies. I don't know if I've ever seen an artist do that before.
I've seen them 25 or so times live. What you've described above is why people either hate them or love them as a live act.
One of the 10 minute or so versions of Round Here they were doing in 2003 had all of Van Morrison's Sweet Thing in it. T'was jaw-droppingly good.
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One less thing for the haters to hate... the dreads are finally gone.
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
Have seen them three times and really enjoyed myself each time. Just got lucky I guess. Deftones are like that too apparently though I'm 3 from 3 for them as well regarding great performances. What Counting Crows do is vary the sets like Pearl Jam and that's great. Have seen a heap of different songs and always appreciate that.
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Like I've said before, I like the way that Adam changes the way that he sings the songs live. I'd rather that than he forgets the words to his own songs like a certain other singer that we all love so much...
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
What and Adam doesn't ever forget words to his songs? Sorry but that seems like a really odd statement you're making there - a rambling tuneless vocal performance can ruin a song, far more so than someone forgetting the odd word here or there. I don't want to sound harsh so please forgive me, but it sounds a little bit fanboy-ish, like you'll accept any old shit just because it's 'unique'. Sure some improvisations can work, but some aren't going to work so well. A lot of the time it just sounds indulgent, like he's forgotten who he's there to sing for.
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No the differing opinion isn't what makes it sound fanboy-ish, it's that you're ignoring the fact that sometimes the improv is going to be good - even better than the album version, and sometimes it will be worse. What it seems like you're saying, is that you don't care what it sounds like as long as it's different to the original, and sounds 'unique' to that show.
Great band. Sure there recent stuff isnt the strongest, but give them their credit. Duritz has talent.
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Amazing rare song: August & Everything After. Simply incredible. Hard to believe it was left off the album.
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It's just him and a piano, doing one song in his house per night for the week of Valentine's Day.
It's mainly rought demos of cover versions, and just a bit of fun.
Some fan has made an album cover for it.
The 'album' is called: "All My Bloody Valentines", and can be downloaded from the Counting Crows Facebook page.
Tracklist:
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 1)
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 2)
My Sweet Carolina
Rainbow Sleeves
You Might Think
Valentine's Day (version 1)
Valentine's Day (version 2)
On the Sunny Side of the Street
The Dark End of the Street
Awesome. Thanks for posting this.
Don't fuck sheep. -EV 7/11/11
You can never have enough Neil in the mix. -EV 10/24/10
There's only one commandment: Don't be an asshole. -EV 5/6/10
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 1) :Bob Dylan
Don't Think Twice It's Alright (version 2) :Bob Dylan
My Sweet Carolina :Ryan Adams
Rainbow Sleeves :Rickie Lee Jones
You Might Think :The Cars
Valentine's Day (version 1) :Steve Earle
Valentine's Day (version 2) :Steve Earle
On the Sunny Side of the Street :Jimmy McHugh/Dorothy Fields (a Jazz standard)
The Dark End of the Street :Dan Penn/Chips Morgan (covered by everybody in the world, according to Wikipedia)
As for them live, I saw them once, and was intrigued that he mashed so many songs together, borrowing lyrics from other songs and switching up the melodies. I don't know if I've ever seen an artist do that before.
One of the 10 minute or so versions of Round Here they were doing in 2003 had all of Van Morrison's Sweet Thing in it. T'was jaw-droppingly good.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
Wellington 1998
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Padova 2018
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That EP cover is pretty awful though!
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
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