Catalans and Basques, should they have their own country?

matabele

redrock wrote:

matabele wrote:

Countries should adopt the state set up that the USA has, each state is like its own country and is self governing.

Well... would you think of considering LA as a self-governing state? Or New York City? Looking at the Catalans and the Basque, their populations are respectively approx 6 million and approx 3 million. So the Basques would be similar to LA (though probably 1/2 million less) and the Catalans wouldn't even come close to New York's population which is over 8 million.

The USA has states which have their own state laws but they are still 'governed' with federal laws. So not real independence. The Basque or Catalan that want separation want a totally indpendent country, not a state within another country. This kind of stuff, the catalan and the basque already have as they are autonomous regions.

Well put, the impression I have always got from visiting the USA is that the differant states seem to be totally independent. Sure at the end of the day they answer to Washington but on the whole I find them under local control whereas in Spain it seems regions are throttled by the head office.

redrock

matabele wrote:

Sure at the end of the day they answer to Washington but on the whole I find them under local control whereas in Spain it seems regions are throttled by the head office.

In case you missed it, I'm reposting this link that OutofBreath found. It explains who autonomous regions work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... s_of_Spain. They do have quite a bit of freedom thus the need for a completely independent country is not high on the agenda for most catalans and basques.

matabele

redrock wrote:

matabele wrote:

Sure at the end of the day they answer to Washington but on the whole I find them under local control whereas in Spain it seems regions are throttled by the head office.

In case you missed it, I'm reposting this link that OutofBreath found. It explains who autonomous regions work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... s_of_Spain. They do have quite a bit of freedom thus the need for a completely independent country is not high on the agenda for most catalans and basques.

Thanks I did miss it, I have often found that there is a huge difference between what is put down on paper and the reality on the ground.

TheVoiceInside

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

OutOfBreath wrote:

Thing is, they are pretty loose as it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... s_of_Spain

As for comparing with US cities, well you can make it sound any way you want it. That 6 million is also the combined population of 4-5 huge (in area) midwestern states.

Peace
Dan

How many languages do they have in Spain geez:

Spanish
Catalan
Basque
Valenican
Aragonese
Galician

any more I do not know of?

Just to correct there is no "Spanish" language. what most of the world recognizes as the spanish language is actually called Castellan. It comes from the region of Castilla which i believe is the same area as Madrid is located in.