Fired from CNN..........
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Godfather. wrote:ed243421 wrote:
ya g.
what about freedom of speech?
or are you just gonna throw this shit out there, not defend your views, and put up a bunch of those smiley faces that tell us so much about you?
you goof balls...freedom of speech ? she was paid to report news with a unbiased opinion and then tweeted how much she admired a man that has allegedly killed people with extreme prejudice, she is representing a large company not just her self, what happened to MC crystal when he expressed his personal feeling to a reporter and where was freedom of speech then ? you can't have it both ways guys.
Godfather.
unbiased opinion? All opinions are biased.
facts are not.
fox would have to fire everybody since they are fair and balanced, but only report opinions and often outright lies0 -
yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
exactly... 99% of the time when someone brings up "freedom of speech", it's about something that isn't a freedom of speech issue at all.My whole life
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how can anyone support this? all she did was express some sympathy for a guy who died and everyone thinks it's justified for her to lose her job? if she had done the same thing for a jewish religious figure who justified attacks on palestinians, or a christian religious figure who justified attacks on iraqis or something, she would not face a tenth of this type of punishment. unfortunately, what octavia nasr forgot was that in the US you are only allowed to express admiration for Jewish and Christian religious figures, Muslim religious figures are all a bunch of terrorists, whether Sunni or Shias, regardless of their views.
i also fail to see how this is a compromise of the lousy work she does with CNN0 -
_outlaw wrote:how can anyone support this? all she did was express some sympathy for a guy who died and everyone thinks it's justified for her to lose her job? if she had done the same thing for a jewish religious figure who justified attacks on palestinians, or a christian religious figure who justified attacks on iraqis or something, she would not face a tenth of this type of punishment. unfortunately, what octavia nasr forgot was that in the US you are only allowed to express admiration for Jewish and Christian religious figures, Muslim religious figures are all a bunch of terrorists, whether Sunni or Shias, regardless of their views.
i also fail to see how this is a compromise of the lousy work she does with CNN
The same thing was done to Helen Thomas for her comments about Israel.
What is dumb is if she said this in an opinion piece it would be ok. Unfortuanely, not that I agree with it becuase I don't, you have to be careful with off the record and public comments on twitter.0 -
twitter is like texting on your cell phone. you have a small amount of charachters available and it's not often easy to display your full thoughts and they can easily get taken completely out of context.
Nasr explained the reasons for her praise in a CNN blog.
I used the words "respect" and "sad" because to me as a Middle Eastern woman, Fadlallah took a contrarian and pioneering stand among Shia clerics on woman's rights. He called for the abolition of the tribal system of "honor killing." He called the practice primitive and non-productive. He warned Muslim men that abuse of women was against Islam....
This does not mean I respected him for what else he did or said. Far from it.0 -
yosi wrote:It is one thing to have opinions on what you cover, it is quite another to tell the world about them. I think CNN has a point when they say that she compromised her reputation as an objective observer, which is pretty much the most important thing for someone at CNN.
that's such a laughable statement....they compromised their reputation and integrity decades ago
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yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
to me it is a freedom of speech issue because they fired her for something she said while not as a representative of the company ... they fired her for what ultimately was a statement that was not that offensive simply for political reasons ... they could have given her an opportunity to clarify or apologize if she so wanted to but instead they fired her for harldy inflammatory words ... i don't think anyone rioted after her tweet ...0 -
polaris_x wrote:yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
to me it is a freedom of speech issue because they fired her for something she said while not as a representative of the company ... they fired her for what ultimately was a statement that was not that offensive simply for political reasons ... they could have given her an opportunity to clarify or apologize if she so wanted to but instead they fired her for harldy inflammatory words ... i don't think anyone rioted after her tweet ...
you never know, she may have been a on going problem with the company and this was their opportunity they needed to get rid of her...it happens all the time,
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yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
That's what I was thinking. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want without consequences. I mean if you publicly embarass the company you work for you should expect to get fired, the same way if I called my boss a Jackass infront of my coworkers I would probably get fired. All freedom of speech means is the government isn't going to throw you in jail for saying those types of things. I would be more concerned if the government stepped in and said that the company had to rehire this worker.0 -
Kel Varnsen wrote:yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
That's what I was thinking. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want without consequences. I mean if you publicly embarass the company you work for you should expect to get fired, the same way if I called my boss a Jackass infront of my coworkers I would probably get fired. All freedom of speech means is the government isn't going to throw you in jail for saying those types of things. I would be more concerned if the government stepped in and said that the company had to rehire this worker."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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CNN, and 99% of the media, is in it to make money. They are not on a mission of truth and fairness from God. They felt these comments may have a negative impact on their bottom line so they did what they felt they had to do in order to protect said bottom line."First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
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markin ball wrote:CNN, and 99% of the media, is in it to make money. They are not on a mission of truth and fairness from God. They felt these comments may have a negative impact on their bottom line so they did what they felt they had to do in order to protect said bottom line.
Exactly. Journalism died the minute broadcast executives discovered that they could make money from the newsroom. There is a reason WHY Lindsey Lohan is the lead story on many local news telecasts... the same reason why 30 minutes of evening news, sports and weather are followed by 90 minutes of Access Hollywood... and WHY FOX News is the number 1 rated News source. Sensationalized entertanment is what America wants... not boring journalism.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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The memo also said Nasr, "fully accepts that she should not have made such a simplistic comment without any context whatsoever."live pearl jam is best pearl jam0
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yosi wrote:Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
'you are free, provided you can pay for it'.
that's capitalism for you. CNN can say whatever they want (and whetever they want is whatever the state wants, as is with every major media source).0
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