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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    so much for freedom of speech ...
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/07/cnn-editor-fired-tweet-congroversial-lebanese-leader/?test=latestnews


    Godfather.

    ya g.

    what about freedom of speech?
    or are you just gonna throw this shit out there, not defend your views, and put up a bunch of those smiley faces that tell us so much about you?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    apparently is is now illegal for editors and journalists to have an opinion about what they cover. nice move cnn... :roll: :evil:
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    work there for 20 years and get fired for something like that? pretty shitty...
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Very surprised….. glad to see CNN does not support employees that have sympathy for murders
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    It is one thing to have opinions on what you cover, it is quite another to tell the world about them. I think CNN has a point when they say that she compromised her reputation as an objective observer, which is pretty much the most important thing for someone at CNN.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ed243421 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/07/cnn-editor-fired-tweet-congroversial-lebanese-leader/?test=latestnews


    Godfather.

    ya g.

    what about freedom of speech?
    or are you just gonna throw this shit out there, not defend your views, and put up a bunch of those smiley faces that tell us so much about you?

    you goof balls...freedom of speech ? she was paid to report news with a unbiased opinion and then tweeted how much she admired a man that has allegedly killed people with extreme prejudice, she is representing a large company not just her self, what happened to MC crystal when he expressed his personal feeling to a reporter and where was freedom of speech then ? you can't have it both ways guys.

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    yosi wrote:
    It is one thing to have opinions on what you cover, it is quite another to tell the world about them. I think CNN has a point when they say that she compromised her reputation as an objective observer, which is pretty much the most important thing for someone at CNN.
    bullshit. how many "journalists" and network correspondents moonlight on talk shows on cable and network news shows like real time with bill maher? how many are contributers to fox news and msnbc programs? you can report objectively and spout your opinions as well. there is a balance. how many of them have blogs they contribute to?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Nothing to do with 'Freedom Of Speech'... everything to do with Ratings for sponsor dollars.
    I mean, look at the couple who have chimed in about the editor... they are exactly the cross-section of television users they are targeting. The ones who would go elsewhere if someone expressed an opinion counter their own.
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  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    This from someone who apparently gets all his/her news exclusively from non-traditional sources because the "MSM" can't be trusted. Talk about looking elsewhere when you don't hear what you want to hear.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    yosi wrote:
    This from someone who apparently gets all his/her news exclusively from non-traditional sources because the "MSM" can't be trusted. Talk about looking elsewhere when you don't hear what you want to hear.
    to whom are you referring here?
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/07/cnn-editor-fired-tweet-congroversial-lebanese-leader/?test=latestnews


    Godfather.

    ya g.

    what about freedom of speech?
    or are you just gonna throw this shit out there, not defend your views, and put up a bunch of those smiley faces that tell us so much about you?

    you goof balls...freedom of speech ? she was paid to report news with a unbiased opinion and then tweeted how much she admired a man that has allegedly killed people with extreme prejudice, she is representing a large company not just her self, what happened to MC crystal when he expressed his personal feeling to a reporter and where was freedom of speech then ? you can't have it both ways guys.

    Godfather.

    ya gotta twist the story, don't ya

    she was commenting on the fact he had done some good things for women

    and she did report the news with an unbiased opinion,

    she tweeted her feelings based on what he had done for women in that part of the world

    and i said before, mcchrystal should have been replaced years ago when the entire armed forces and u.s. government covered up the tillman story
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    With freedom of speech comes responsibility to deal with the consequence that may come your way
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    With freedom of speech comes responsibility to deal with the consequence that may come your way
    ...
    I'm just guessing here... but, I bet you can attest to that from real world experiences, right?
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    With freedom of speech comes responsibility to deal with the consequence that may come your way
    ...
    I'm just guessing here... but, I bet you can attest to that from real world experiences, right?

    yep..haven't we all?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    her firing is a reflection that corporate and political interests trumps all ... it's sad tho that those who support her firing already are assuming accusations of this person are true and without context ... george w. bush is responsible for the deaths of many more innocent lives than this person but i'm sure no one would get fired anywhere if they tweeted something nice about him ...

    keep on feeding into the hate and you no longer will have your freedom ...
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Nothing to do with 'Freedom Of Speech'... everything to do with Ratings for sponsor dollars.
    I mean, look at the couple who have chimed in about the editor... they are exactly the cross-section of television users they are targeting. The ones who would go elsewhere if someone expressed an opinion counter their own.


    maybe she will get her own talk show with FOX..... :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Nothing to do with 'Freedom Of Speech'... everything to do with Ratings for sponsor dollars.
    I mean, look at the couple who have chimed in about the editor... they are exactly the cross-section of television users they are targeting. The ones who would go elsewhere if someone expressed an opinion counter their own.


    maybe she will get her own talk show with FOX..... :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    Actually, No. Because people who get the bulk of their political analysis from FOX News, such as yourself, would never watch her, would you?
    She has pretty much black balled herself from any station in the U.S. that relies on sponsored dollars. Perhaps, cable access... if it still even exists.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Nothing to do with 'Freedom Of Speech'... everything to do with Ratings for sponsor dollars.
    I mean, look at the couple who have chimed in about the editor... they are exactly the cross-section of television users they are targeting. The ones who would go elsewhere if someone expressed an opinion counter their own.


    maybe she will get her own talk show with FOX..... :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    Actually, No. Because people who get the bulk of their political analysis from FOX News, such as yourself, would never watch her, would you?
    She has pretty much black balled herself from any station in the U.S. that relies on sponsored dollars. Perhaps, cable access... if it still even exists.

    well I was joking but I hadn't thought about her being black balled and your right no I wouldn't watch her

    Godfather.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Godfather. wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:

    ya g.

    what about freedom of speech?
    or are you just gonna throw this shit out there, not defend your views, and put up a bunch of those smiley faces that tell us so much about you?

    you goof balls...freedom of speech ? she was paid to report news with a unbiased opinion and then tweeted how much she admired a man that has allegedly killed people with extreme prejudice, she is representing a large company not just her self, what happened to MC crystal when he expressed his personal feeling to a reporter and where was freedom of speech then ? you can't have it both ways guys.

    Godfather.

    unbiased opinion? All opinions are biased.

    facts are not.

    fox would have to fire everybody since they are fair and balanced, but only report opinions and often outright lies
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    yosi wrote:
    Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.

    exactly... 99% of the time when someone brings up "freedom of speech", it's about something that isn't a freedom of speech issue at all.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    how can anyone support this? all she did was express some sympathy for a guy who died and everyone thinks it's justified for her to lose her job? if she had done the same thing for a jewish religious figure who justified attacks on palestinians, or a christian religious figure who justified attacks on iraqis or something, she would not face a tenth of this type of punishment. unfortunately, what octavia nasr forgot was that in the US you are only allowed to express admiration for Jewish and Christian religious figures, Muslim religious figures are all a bunch of terrorists, whether Sunni or Shias, regardless of their views.

    i also fail to see how this is a compromise of the lousy work she does with CNN
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    _outlaw wrote:
    how can anyone support this? all she did was express some sympathy for a guy who died and everyone thinks it's justified for her to lose her job? if she had done the same thing for a jewish religious figure who justified attacks on palestinians, or a christian religious figure who justified attacks on iraqis or something, she would not face a tenth of this type of punishment. unfortunately, what octavia nasr forgot was that in the US you are only allowed to express admiration for Jewish and Christian religious figures, Muslim religious figures are all a bunch of terrorists, whether Sunni or Shias, regardless of their views.

    i also fail to see how this is a compromise of the lousy work she does with CNN

    The same thing was done to Helen Thomas for her comments about Israel.

    What is dumb is if she said this in an opinion piece it would be ok. Unfortuanely, not that I agree with it becuase I don't, you have to be careful with off the record and public comments on twitter.
  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    twitter is like texting on your cell phone. you have a small amount of charachters available and it's not often easy to display your full thoughts and they can easily get taken completely out of context.

    Nasr explained the reasons for her praise in a CNN blog.

    I used the words "respect" and "sad" because to me as a Middle Eastern woman, Fadlallah took a contrarian and pioneering stand among Shia clerics on woman's rights. He called for the abolition of the tribal system of "honor killing." He called the practice primitive and non-productive. He warned Muslim men that abuse of women was against Islam....

    This does not mean I respected him for what else he did or said. Far from it.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    yosi wrote:
    It is one thing to have opinions on what you cover, it is quite another to tell the world about them. I think CNN has a point when they say that she compromised her reputation as an objective observer, which is pretty much the most important thing for someone at CNN.


    that's such a laughable statement....they compromised their reputation and integrity decades ago

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    yosi wrote:
    Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.

    to me it is a freedom of speech issue because they fired her for something she said while not as a representative of the company ... they fired her for what ultimately was a statement that was not that offensive simply for political reasons ... they could have given her an opportunity to clarify or apologize if she so wanted to but instead they fired her for harldy inflammatory words ... i don't think anyone rioted after her tweet ...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.

    to me it is a freedom of speech issue because they fired her for something she said while not as a representative of the company ... they fired her for what ultimately was a statement that was not that offensive simply for political reasons ... they could have given her an opportunity to clarify or apologize if she so wanted to but instead they fired her for harldy inflammatory words ... i don't think anyone rioted after her tweet ...

    you never know, she may have been a on going problem with the company and this was their opportunity they needed to get rid of her...it happens all the time,

    Godfather.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    yosi wrote:
    Forgive me, but how is this a freedom of speech issue in the first place. CNN is a private company. They can fire an employee for whatever reason they want (within the limits of the law). This woman is perfectly free to keep saying whatever she wants on her twitter account. So really, her right to free speech doesn't come into this at all. She's losing a job that gave her a platform for speech (which is not the same as speech itself), but it wasn't her platform to begin with. It was CNN's.

    That's what I was thinking. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want without consequences. I mean if you publicly embarass the company you work for you should expect to get fired, the same way if I called my boss a Jackass infront of my coworkers I would probably get fired. All freedom of speech means is the government isn't going to throw you in jail for saying those types of things. I would be more concerned if the government stepped in and said that the company had to rehire this worker.
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