Just another indication that Courtney Love is worthless...

aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,040
edited November 2011 in Other Music
Sounds like she put on a real winner of a show in DC last night...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktra ... s-col-blog


Courtney Love leads Hole through disastrous 9:30 club concert
We saw Hole at 9:30 club on Sunday. And we somehow lived through it. (All photos by Kyle Gustafson/FTWP)

By David Malitz

"You get the Bruce Springsteen set, sorry."

Courtney Love muttered those words at some point during Hole's show Sunday night at the 9:30 club. It's hard to remember exactly when. Time seemed to stand still for so much of the evening. If she meant that we were in for a nearly three-hour concert, then yes, her statement was true. If she meant that we would experience a well-oiled rock-and-roll machine and everybody would leave feeling satisfied they got their money's worth ... let's come back to that one.

It's safe to say the people yelling "Bull[expletive]! This is bull[expletive]!" didn't feel like their $45 was well spent. There were more than a handful of patrons shouting and cursing at the endlessly controversial, occasionally coherent 45-year-old rock trainwreck. Many more simply headed for the exits. Three-quarters-filled at the start, the club was no more than a quarter packed by the excruciating end.

Make no mistake - this was an astonishingly awful performance that had few moments of redeeming musical value. Song titles, lyrics, guitar chords - Love remembered only some of them, and infrequently. Then again, what was really the best-case musical scenario? A competent recreation of songs more than a decade old, played by Love and her latest hired hands? Is that what people wanted to see - Courtney karaoke versions of '90s MTV buzz clips? Maybe. But probably not. Perhaps a bit more professionalism would have been nice but in 2010 you pay your $45 hoping for the Courtney Love Experience. And Sunday night was an experience like no other.

(The painful blow-by-blow, after the jump.)





She took the stage nearly an hour past the advertised 9:30 start time, smoking a cigarette, rambling for a minute about how she was late because she had just been hanging out with a senator friend. (Leave your best guesses in the comments.) She also introduced an assistant, Lisa, who was on stage for the entire show filming Love on an iPhone. Not on the side of the stage. Not filming a few songs. The entire show, on stage, often directly in front of Love. Love, naturally, played to the camera more than her fans. She preened, she constantly sang in its direction, she looked like she was trying to seduce it. Love and Lisa huddled before, during and after songs, conferring about what angles to shoot, like they were Bogdanovich and Kovacs.

When one fan near the front complained that Lisa was being obstructive Love quickly snapped, "[Expletive] you, she's with me." She introduced "Someone Else's Bed" as a "deeply emotional song" and spent the first 30 seconds of it instructing Lisa where to situate herself to get the best angle of Love giving it her faux-heartfelt best.

The between song chatter was more than just chatter. Ten minutes without playing a song? Sure, let's do that a few times. She talked about her courting style ("I never chase"), being anorexic and bulimic, quizzed fans on the meaning of her late husband Kurt Cobain's lyrics, twice mentioned how The Washington Post hated her new album "Nobody's Daughter," and name-dropped a "TMZ" episode's worth of celebrities, from Trent Reznor to Diablo Cody to George Clooney, even Douglas Fairbanks. She asked what the lamest Hole song was and cursed at people when they gave the wrong answer.



When Love got around to singing, her voice sounded as if something died in her throat earlier in the day. Love has a blood-curdling howl, by far her most effective asset as a performer. She just should have used it more on Sunday. During the choruses of "Miss World" and "Violet" - two of her best and most popular songs - she turned the microphone to the crowd and didn't even bother singing. Other times she skipped lines in order to cough, or take a sip of water or just ... not sing. Of the nearly 30 songs (or song fragments), not even a handful were completed without some minor disaster.

Love took a request for "Rock Star" despite admitting she didn't remember how to play it. She stumbled through half the song without strumming anything resembling one correct chord. (Why didn't she just Google the tablature on the iPhone?) She played a new song, "Pretty Your Whole Life." It was bad. Half an hour later she played it again. It was worse.

Love eventually decided to have some of her fans join her on stage. She started plucking some from the crowd and they simply sat off to the side. "Do you really like rock music?" she asked one female. "Because you're African-American. That would be like me being into Lil Wayne." She wasn't joking. One fan came on stage with a poster and asked Love to sign it. "No socializing interaction! Go sit over there."



Before the encore another one of Love's handlers told the remaining faithful that they would have to be loud because there was someone who was waiting to have sex with Love and it would take lots of applause to get her to delay that appointment. Sure enough Love did re-emerge, this time wearing a skin-colored see-through top, sans bra. It would have been blurred out on TV, even on E!

She quickly became self-conscious and asked the audience for a bra, promising unlimited merchandise to whoever gave her one. One came flying onto the stage and Love removed her top to put it on. She did this at the back corner of the stage, so we could only see her bare back. She then repeatedly talked about how the bra was too big for her.

The encore contained a Rolling Stones cover (the second of the night), a Leonard Cohen cover ("Take This Longing") and the back-to-back of originals "Car Crash" and "Awful." Was this irony or were we well past that? Most of her backing band had retired for the night by this point leaving Love and guitarist Micko Larkin alone on stage. Then came a cover of Big Star's "Thirteen" that likely had Alex Chilton doing 360s in his grave. Before closer "Northern Lights" she ripped off the bra. Obviously. It's actually somewhat surprising she didn't play Nirvana's "Pennyroyal Tea" while completely topless.

"This is a really weird show," Love said in perhaps the understatement of the night a bit earlier. "I can't tell if it's really terrible."

Courtney, let me tell you something. In just the past year and a half, I've been to about 400 shows. I've seen some really terrible ones. And this was really the most terrible. No question. But the vast majority of those 400 shows, I went there, I saw it, and almost immediately forgot I was there. I'll never forget this night with Courtney Love, no matter how much I may want to. And isn't that really what she's always wanted?
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Wow, thanks for posting that. I'm not surprised by any means, but still a little speechless nonetheless reading that. She sucks.
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    I'm a fan, and I'll defend her to some extent normally, but fucking hell :shock: :o She's just not built for touring with a band anymore, and it seems she's still struggling with a lot of shit in her personal life. I feel bad for the people who paid good money to see such a shitty performance.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,189
    train-wreck.jpg

    went back and read the whole thing.... :lol::lol::lol::lol: ...glad it wasn't my 45 bucks!
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    imalive wrote:
    train-wreck.jpg

    went back and read the whole thing.... :lol::lol::lol::lol: ...glad it wasn't my 45 bucks!

    Anyone paying to see that hack perform deserves to have their money taken. In my humble opinion, of course.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,189
    eyedclaar wrote:

    Anyone paying to see that hack perform deserves to have their money taken. In my humble opinion, of course.
    definitely falls into the "wtf did you expect?" category :lol::lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • :shock: :o

    how come there's no smiley for "not surprised at all"? :lol:
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    It would be a bigger headline and shock to everyone if the show went smoothly
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    It would be a bigger headline and shock to everyone if the show went smoothly

    actually i watched her on the kroq weenie roast webcast and i was pleasantly surprised...i thought it would be like the show described above but she sounded good and her between songs 'chats' weren't too far out there...but i knew it couldn't last too long


    y'all really want to have a laugh, read her 'tweets'...batshit crazy doesn't begin to describe it :lol:
  • MANKINDMANKIND Posts: 218
    why would any one even buy tickets to that shit to begin with
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  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    edited July 2010
    well, I 'll be seeing this show next week. I'll let you all know how it is.

    Saw the weenie roast performance, it was pretty decent.

    looking forward to Tues.
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  • peacegirlpeacegirl Posts: 835
    I saw her in Philly last Tuesday and she was great.

    I was at the D.C. show Sunday and it wasn't as great but I still enjoyed it. It's not like I was shocked by her behavior - I know she can be a trainwreck but I still love her! :D
  • toddiet123toddiet123 Posts: 271
    funny..Patton Oswalt twitted this yesterday..i had a a laugh
  • edvedderrocksedvedderrocks Posts: 1,001
    Saw her in Philly last Tuesday. I thought she was pretty good. It was, however, the first show of the tour. She did go on about an hour late though, which was annoying. And played "Sympathy for the Devil" twice.
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    I can't understand why people are still giving this women their money to watch her continue her wrecked life ... every $45 ticket sold allows her to think she can still get up on stage and behave whichever way she chooses.

    I saw her live once in 93,she was bad enough then ... hate to think what she would be like now ... this article gave an indicator
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  • I just got back from the Atlanta show and it was great. Sure,they were an hour late,but the band more than made up for it. The new songs sounded great and the classics were amazing. Courtney did not seem fucked up at all. I think that review was more about a guy giving his opinion than being objective in his review.
  • peacegirlpeacegirl Posts: 835
    I just got back from the Atlanta show and it was great. Sure,they were an hour late,but the band more than made up for it. The new songs sounded great and the classics were amazing. Courtney did not seem fucked up at all. I think that review was more about a guy giving his opinion than being objective in his review.

    Glad to hear the next show was good...when she takes care of herself, she's great, I just wish she could keep it together all the time

    that review was a bit harsh but I was there and as much as I love Courtney it was bad and very strange
  • Th posts on AJC.com from people who were there are brutal. They keep saying how shitty the show was and how out of it Courtney was. They must not have been at the same show. Her between song banter was pretty funny, her best quip, right before playing a cover of NIN's "Closer" was "I didn't write this song, but I slept with the guy who did." The review from last week's D.C. gig talks about how she didn't remember her songs. What the reviewer didn't mention was that she was trying to play requested rarities that haven't been played in a decade. No singer can pull an unrehearsed song out of their ass and play it perfectly. Listen to Satan's Bed on your State College boot for proof. I think people wouldn't have their knives out for Courtney if she were a man. Nobody is willing to give her a chance because of her past issues, yet someone like Robert Downey Jr. or Scott Wieland are easily forgiven for their past transgressions. If Courtney was the one who killed herself and Kurt got himself clean and tried to get his career back on track, people would be calling him "strong" and "a survivor".
  • jamburgerjamburger Posts: 1,775
    Th posts on AJC.com from people who were there are brutal. They keep saying how shitty the show was and how out of it Courtney was. They must not have been at the same show. Her between song banter was pretty funny, her best quip, right before playing a cover of NIN's "Closer" was "I didn't write this song, but I slept with the guy who did." The review from last week's D.C. gig talks about how she didn't remember her songs. What the reviewer didn't mention was that she was trying to play requested rarities that haven't been played in a decade. No singer can pull an unrehearsed song out of their ass and play it perfectly. Listen to Satan's Bed on your State College boot for proof. I think people wouldn't have their knives out for Courtney if she were a man. Nobody is willing to give her a chance because of her past issues, yet someone like Robert Downey Jr. or Scott Wieland are easily forgiven for their past transgressions. If Courtney was the one who killed herself and Kurt got himself clean and tried to get his career back on track, people would be calling him "strong" and "a survivor".

    You seem to be a fan of Courtney's if that's all you took from the review of the DC show. So to counter your argument, I'll say that Pearl Jam performed for a stellar 2 1/2 hours before they even tried to pull Satan's Bed out of their asses that night... Robert Downey Jr. has proven he can stay clean for more than a minute (last arrest was 2001 I believe)... I don't see how Weiland has been easily forgiven considering that STP show at the end of March when his band left him on stage.

    You have to prove yourself to be "strong" and "a survivor" before you can expect anyone else to think of you that way. Courtney hasn't. Just ask her daughter.
  • Jamburger,I am a fan of her work, she's a brilliant, underrated song writer in my opinion. All the issues she's had in the past are her own fault and she is the one and only reason people stopped giving her chances.The point of my post was that people go above and beyond objective criticism with her. I wasn't at the D.C. show, so I don't know what happened, but based on what fans who were there say, besides the 1 hour delay and poorly played rarities, it was a great show.According to posts from those who were there the songs that were rehearsed were well played and the "10 minute ramblings" that the Washington Post critic mentioned were just standard between song banter. Now, we know that hard core fans of a band tend to look at everything their heroes do through rose colored glasses(it happens on this board all the time) and the positive stuff could very well be fan wank. I do agree with the critic that the 1 hour delay is completely unprofessional, and the putting a bra on while on stage is really strange. But it just seems to me that critics who should show objectivity tend to drop journalistic integrity when it comes to Courtney's work. She could cure cancer and the headline would read "Courtney Love, Filthy Drug Addict and Rock 'n Roll Train Wreck, Cures Cancer." I don't know much about Wieland and STP (I'm curious to hear more about that incident you mentioned) but it seems like when critics write about recent STP shows no one mentions Wieland's drug history, numerous arrests or what an asshole people claim he is. They just focus on the music. But I could be wrong about it, maybe they do, I don't read much about them. I'm pretty sure Weiland has fucked up people's lives just as much as Courtney has fucked up Frances' life and he seems to land on his feet time and again. Robert Downey Jr. has been clean for awhile now, but you might recall that in the mid 90's till about 2003 he would get arrested,then he'd turn up in a movie or Ally McBeal. I'm glad the guy has gotten his shit together.
  • Continued--Downey's one of those guys that make movies better just by showing up in them, but through all his issues, nobody in the press shit talked him as mercilessly as they do Courtney. In fact, alot of what was written about him during his drug years always had a tone of "We're pulling for you, buddy." But,I digress. I've taken up a lot of space on this! :lol:
  • Mr. ChipMr. Chip Posts: 1
    My son and I were at the show, both of us have seen hundreds of concerts including scores of PJ shows (a few that outsiders would qualify as "trainwrecks"). The 930 Club that night was a fantastic trip, not a trainwreck. It was up close and personal rock and roll. Yes, Courtney talked a lot (awesome) and there were a few "unrehearsed" songs, but I'm thankful we did not get a cookie cutter set list and a pre-fab media-made personalty. I have been to many PJ shows where they tried songs that they hadn't played for a long time some more successful than others but I always appreciate the effort. The 930 Club is very fan/stage friendly and intimate, and for better or worse Courtney created an environment of much interaction between her and the audience. By the end of the show there were around 20 fans actually sitting ON the stage. I will always treasure that show for all that it was just as I do many of the unexpected, unrehearsed, unintended, moments that have occurred at PJ shows. And finally as true PJ fans you should know better than to believe everything you read in a newspaper.

    ps . . . lost in all this is the fact that Foxy Shazam played an absolutely scorching set as the opener. By themselves they were worth the price of admission.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    Honestly, I feel sorry for all you losers who are hating on her. Yeah shes wacky, but your not any better by taking time to post shit on someone.
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    The point of my post was that people go above and beyond objective criticism with her.

    So true.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Courtney's twitter:

    oi i havent slept all night for the chicklit crap im kindleing what IS UP THE WASHINGTON POSTS ASS? you havent even SEEN a "meltdown" sexist

    :? :lol:
  • norm wrote:
    Courtney's twitter:

    oi i havent slept all night for the chicklit crap im kindleing what IS UP THE WASHINGTON POSTS ASS? you havent even SEEN a "meltdown" sexist

    :? :lol:

    maybe that's why she was an hour late to the stage in D.C. and Atlanta! She was reading Twilight novels on her Kindle! :lol:
  • Honestly, I feel sorry for all you losers who are hating on her. Yeah shes wacky, but your not any better by taking time to post shit on someone.


    You don't think that someone should have an idea of what to expect if they were planning to go see her? I'm doing a public service here!
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    What is the setlist looking like? I figure they are playing alot off nobodys daughter, but for the older stuff are they playing alot off of celeb skin and live through this?

    I figure they may prolly play something off pretty on the inside too and some cover songs.

    Thanks.
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  • HoltzmnHoltzmn Posts: 87
    red mos wrote:
    What is the setlist looking like?

    DC show from http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hole/2010 ... 4085a.html


    1. Pretty on the Inside Play Video
    2. Sympathy for the Devil (The Rolling Stones cover) Play Video
    3. Samantha Play Video
    4. Miss World Play Video
    5. Violet Play Video
    6. Pretty Your Whole LifeAdditional Information: acousticacoustic Play Video
    7. Closer (Nine Inch Nails cover) Play Video
    8. The Man That Got Away (Judy Garland cover) Play Video
    9. Letter to God Play Video
    10. Asking for It Play Video
    11. Jennifer's Body Play Video
    12. Plump Play Video
    13. Pretty Your Whole LifeAdditional Information: She played a 2nd time, with electric guitarsShe played a 2nd time, with electric guitars Play Video
    14. Olympia Play Video
    15. Pacific Coast Highway Play Video
    16. Sunset Marquis Play Video
    17. Honey Play Video
    18. Celebrity Skin Play Video
    19. Someone Else's Bed Play Video
    20. Skinny Little Bitch Play Video
    21. Encore:
    21. Doll Parts Play Video
    22. Play with Fire (The Rolling Stones cover) Play Video
    23. Malibu Play Video
    24. Boys on the Radio Play Video
    25. Take This Longing (Leonard Cohen cover) Play Video
    26. Car Crash Play Video
    27. Awful Play Video
    28. Thirteen (Big Star cover) Play Video
    29. Never Go Hungry Play Video
    30. Northern Star Play Video
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    thank you. wow. that's a pretty good and long setlist. :) Thank you for posting.
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  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    Ok so went to the show last night and it was great. Courtney was in a great mood.

    They did alot of the songs mentioned above, and they played "Petals" for the first time in 12 years.

    honestly, if you are a Hole fan or are pretty familiar with their material, you will enjoy it.

    Her stage banter is pretty funny.

    Hung out for a bit with Miko after the show, he was pretty drunk though.

    got to say Hi to Courney, but the bodyguard rushed her to the bus pretty quickly.
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