Arizona police warned by cartels to look the other way

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Mexican Drug Cartel Warns Police Officers in Arizona Border Town to 'Look the Other Way'
By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published June 22, 2010 | FOXNews.com
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One expert said the threat likely came from the Sinaloa Cartel, which is headed by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman-Loera, who is being sought by American and Mexican authorities.
Police officers in a small Arizona border city are on heightened alert following a tip that a Mexican drug cartel will put them in its crosshairs if they conduct off-duty busts.

The threat stems from a marijuana seizure made this month by two off-duty police officers riding on horseback in an unincorporated area east of Nogales, a city of roughly 20,000, Police Chief Jeffrey Kirkham told FoxNews.com.

"The word was that these particular officers would be targeted if they were ever in that area again and were not on duty and intercepted any drug trafficking," Kirkham said. "It said they should look the other way."

The unidentified officers were able to confiscate roughly 400 pounds of marijuana during the seizure in early June at a known smuggling corridor along the U.S.-Mexican border where there is "relatively no fencing," Kirkham said. No arrests were made, and the smugglers were able to retreat into Mexico.

Kirkham said his department, which employs 62 officers, learned about the threat through informants and has been unable to determine which Mexican drug cartel is behind it. Kirkham noted that two drug trafficking organizations -- the Los Zetas and the Sinaloa Cartel -- are currently trying to gain a foothold in the Nogales area.


"Which one, we can't establish," he said. "They're not ones to advertise who's behind this. It's difficult to establish."

In response to the threat, Kirkham said everyone in the department was advised to be armed while off-duty. Officials at the Drug Enforcement Agency and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement also were notified, he said.

"We let them know that if they are to go out there, they are to be armed," Kirkham said.

George Grayson, a professor at The College of William & Mary who specializes in Mexican politics and international affairs, said the threat likely came from the Sinaloa Cartel, which is headed by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman-Loera, who is being sought by American and Mexican authorities. The U.S. State Department is offering a reward of up to $5 million for information leading to his arrest.

"This is quite credible that the cartels would threaten police officers, on-duty or off-duty," Grayson told FoxNews.com. "They, in fact, are more likely to threaten local police than to go after the [Drug Enforcement Agency] or FBI, which really raises hackles in Washington when you have your federal law enforcement agents threatened."

The Los Zetas criminal organization -- a rival of the Sinaloa Cartel -- had previously operated in the Nogales area, Grayson said, but the area is now probably controlled by "El Chapo," which is Spanish for "shorty." Grayson said Sinaloa is believed to be one of the biggest suppliers of cocaine to the United States, and its members are known to be well-trained and well-armed.

"These officers should get medals for bravery, either on- or off-duty, because I doubt they have the firepower these cartels have," he said. "It's logical that as there are episodes involving U.S. law enforcement [with Mexican cartels], that the threats against American police officers at various levels will also increase."
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ***cue the "you quoted Fox News" crybabies***
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    ***cue the "you quoted Fox News" crybabies***
    ...
    No...
    It's just that drug cartels warning (threatening) police (and prosecutors and judges) not to interfere with their business dealings.
    Wow... is this something new?
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    ***cue the "you quoted Fox News" crybabies***
    ...
    No...
    It's just that drug cartels warning (threatening) police (and prosecutors and judges) not to interfere with their business dealings.
    Wow... is this something new?

    apparently Mexican bad guys are the first people to threaten law enforcement personnel.

    If it was a bunch of Italians in New Jersey, Chinese in San Francisco, blacks in Los Angeles, or redneck meth dealers in Kentucky, it would be a non-story for Fox. But since it involves Mexicans...
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    I don't really see the difference... criminals that are threatening police officers. Is it somehow not as bad if they're Americans?
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    unsung wrote:
    ***cue the "you quoted Fox News" crybabies***
    This is a typical Fox story tho...
    A story written around an eye-catching headline, based on a "tip"...a "threat"...."the word"....

    It's a non-story, with no facts to check, reported by a news source famous for embellishment and sensationalism....and vaguely verified only by the alleged victims (this is totally something that ONE of those cartels would say :roll: ) ...victims of a threat, received via a tip (or so it sounds)....whose funding depends on how much danger they encounter/how busy they are. hmmmm.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.
    ...
    I still don't get the connection. Doesn't that mean that America should be held accountable for crimes (threats) that American citizens commit abroad?
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.
    ...
    I still don't get the connection. Doesn't that mean that America should be held accountable for crimes (threats) that American citizens commit abroad?


    If armed Americans were crossing into Canada threatening their police how do you think it would be handled?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.
    ...
    I still don't get the connection. Doesn't that mean that America should be held accountable for crimes (threats) that American citizens commit abroad?


    If armed Americans were crossing into Canada threatening their police how do you think it would be handled?
    ...
    They should treat them like any armed criminals.
    But, I wouldn't hold America responsible for the criminal acts of it's citizens.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Ah, just nuke 'em.

    Or better yet, legalize pot and put the asshats out of business.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    I don't really see the difference... criminals that are threatening police officers. Is it somehow not as bad if they're Americans?

    if they are americans the police have more control over the situation, when your dealing with mexicans that can run back across the border and also have the money to carry out a hit on american officers it makes it a little tricky...but we don't want to hurt anybodys feeling and use racial profiling along our borders.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    I don't really see the difference... criminals that are threatening police officers. Is it somehow not as bad if they're Americans?

    if they are americans the police have more control over the situation, when your dealing with mexicans that can run back across the border and also have the money to carry out a hit on american officers it makes it a little tricky...but we don't want to hurt anybodys feeling and use racial profiling along our borders.

    Godfather.


    The Truth comes out! You do support Racial Profiling. I guess us American's have been trained to fear/hate/ and be suspicious of people we don't understand.....

    :cry:
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.


    Yeah- instead of giving another 33 billion dollars to Afganastan we can throw that money into the boarder to fly black hawks, drive tanks, and pay for thousands of troops to hit the deserts...

    I am sure that will end the drug war... I am sure that that will also end the illegal immigration problem we have in The United States of America.

    Billions and Billions of dollars spent on this, with no real resolution.... I guess that will stop people from crossing our boarders illegally....
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Another Great Post by the Tea Party Representative. Way to bring solutions to the table - Way to encourage dialogue, way resolve this problem, way to be so open minded about all of this, and most importantly way to take back your country!
    I think we are blessed that the Barracuda and the Flip Flopper didn't make it to the highest office. Just imagine the hell we would be going through right now....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.


    Yeah- instead of giving another 33 billion dollars to Afganastan we can throw that money into the boarder to fly black hawks, drive tanks, and pay for thousands of troops to hit the deserts...

    I am sure that will end the drug war... I am sure that that will also end the illegal immigration problem we have in The United States of America.



    Billions and Billions of dollars spent on this, with no real resolution.... I guess that will stop people from crossing our boarders illegally....

    and what do you think autta be done.....look the other way ? while the drug lords take over our country like they have done to mexico. why don't you give the racist thing a break, to you everybody's a racist.

    Godfather.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.


    Yeah- instead of giving another 33 billion dollars to Afganastan we can throw that money into the boarder to fly black hawks, drive tanks, and pay for thousands of troops to hit the deserts...

    I am sure that will end the drug war... I am sure that that will also end the illegal immigration problem we have in The United States of America.



    Billions and Billions of dollars spent on this, with no real resolution.... I guess that will stop people from crossing our boarders illegally....

    and what do you think autta be done.....look the other way ? while the drug lords take over our country like they have done to mexico. why don't you give the racist thing a break, to you everybody's a racist.

    Godfather.

    :D - I don't think anyone on the board is a racist- well actually I have my suspicions... ;)
    The Drug Lords have been running the show for years on years.... Actually that same guy Chapo Guzman...owned a plane that was registered/owned by the CIA - It was filled with drugs when it crashed in Guatemala (might of been further south) a few years back-

    I guess those drug lords aren't so dangerous - Considering your fearless leader Rush Limbaugh spent his honeymoon in Mexico - Damn! I hate seeing these extremist go to Mexico and take advantage of Mexicans on there own land..... :evil:
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    tonifig8 wrote:
    I think we are blessed that the Barracuda and the Flip Flopper didn't make it to the highest office. Just imagine the hell we would be going through right now....


    Can someone translate please?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I know you are only joking because I know you aren't that stupid or crazy to actually believe that.
    ...
    How about a sweeping change of immigration reform that begins with agreements with Mexico? Work out some sort of agreement on migrant worker visa programs... with Mexican workers on Mexican base pay scales? Limits on the percentage of migrant workers American companies and businesses can employ?
    Maybe a fast track to citizenship for able bodied Mexicans in exchange for military enlistment/deployment? Illegals deported back to Mexico, billed to Mexico? Place equal responsibility on Mexico to move toward reform of their corrupt immigration department? Paths to citizenship for Mexicans who have been here with long term employment records and no criminal records? How about legalizing marijuana and have tobacco giant Phillip Morris and the American Tobacco Company put the cartels out of business? Incarcerate convicted Mexicans who are involved in criminal activity here on Mexico's dime?
    How about we look for a long term, lasting humanitarian solution that does not involve dropping Napalm or cluster bombs on our own soil?
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  • matabelematabele Posts: 277
    The US government had better start controlling this problem and quickly, these Mexican drug/kidnapping gangs would give al qaeda a run for their money. Personally I think that more work has to be done in helping the Mexican people fight these scumbags.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Another Great Post by the Tea Party Representative. Way to bring solutions to the table - Way to encourage dialogue, way resolve this problem, way to be so open minded about all of this, and most importantly way to take back your country!
    I think we are blessed that the Barracuda and the Flip Flopper didn't make it to the highest office. Just imagine the hell we would be going through right now....

    Yeah......because we all know how hunky-dorey everything is now. :roll:
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Godfather. wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.


    Yeah- instead of giving another 33 billion dollars to Afganastan we can throw that money into the boarder to fly black hawks, drive tanks, and pay for thousands of troops to hit the deserts...

    I am sure that will end the drug war... I am sure that that will also end the illegal immigration problem we have in The United States of America.



    Billions and Billions of dollars spent on this, with no real resolution.... I guess that will stop people from crossing our boarders illegally....

    and what do you think autta be done.....look the other way ? while the drug lords take over our country like they have done to mexico. why don't you give the racist thing a break, to you everybody's a racist.

    Godfather.


    Pretty sad when you're called a racial profiler when talking about illegal alien drug dealers and drug cartels. Some people will find a way to debate anything/everything.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    unsung wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    I think we are blessed that the Barracuda and the Flip Flopper didn't make it to the highest office. Just imagine the hell we would be going through right now....


    Can someone translate please?


    I believe what he's trying to say is good thing we have dumb and dumber in the white house instead of McCain and Palin.
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    you just ooze racist biggotry

    it would be funnier if your avatar was a pic of archie bunker
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    I don't really see the difference... criminals that are threatening police officers. Is it somehow not as bad if they're Americans?

    good point

    and yes, it isn't as bad to unsung
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    It is Mexican citizens that run drug cartels coming onto US soil, not some guido from Jersey.

    I don't really see the difference... criminals that are threatening police officers. Is it somehow not as bad if they're Americans?

    if they are americans the police have more control over the situation, when your dealing with mexicans that can run back across the border and also have the money to carry out a hit on american officers it makes it a little tricky...but we don't want to hurt anybodys feeling and use racial profiling along our borders.

    Godfather.

    g.
    you are so right
    american criminals can't run from canada back to the u.s. cause of the wall, good point
    and they certainly don't have money to carry out a hit on canadian officers
    once again, you've cleared it up for us
    very nice profiling
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I know you are only joking because I know you aren't that stupid or crazy to actually believe that.
    ...
    How about a sweeping change of immigration reform that begins with agreements with Mexico? Work out some sort of agreement on migrant worker visa programs... with Mexican workers on Mexican base pay scales? Limits on the percentage of migrant workers American companies and businesses can employ?
    Maybe a fast track to citizenship for able bodied Mexicans in exchange for military enlistment/deployment? Illegals deported back to Mexico, billed to Mexico? Place equal responsibility on Mexico to move toward reform of their corrupt immigration department? Paths to citizenship for Mexicans who have been here with long term employment records and no criminal records? How about legalizing marijuana and have tobacco giant Phillip Morris and the American Tobacco Company put the cartels out of business? Incarcerate convicted Mexicans who are involved in criminal activity here on Mexico's dime?
    How about we look for a long term, lasting humanitarian solution that does not involve dropping Napalm or cluster bombs on our own soil?

    dang cosmo!!!!! you don't miss a thing,yes I was joking but I ain't too crazy about your ideas either.

    Godfather.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    bring in the national guard and take no prisoners, black hawks, f-18's what ever it takes.

    ya know if nobama dose not handle this right it wont look good for him, this alone is enough reason to close down the borders and patrol them heavly armed.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I know you are only joking because I know you aren't that stupid or crazy to actually believe that.
    ...
    How about a sweeping change of immigration reform that begins with agreements with Mexico? Work out some sort of agreement on migrant worker visa programs... with Mexican workers on Mexican base pay scales? Limits on the percentage of migrant workers American companies and businesses can employ?
    Maybe a fast track to citizenship for able bodied Mexicans in exchange for military enlistment/deployment? Illegals deported back to Mexico, billed to Mexico? Place equal responsibility on Mexico to move toward reform of their corrupt immigration department? Paths to citizenship for Mexicans who have been here with long term employment records and no criminal records? How about legalizing marijuana and have tobacco giant Phillip Morris and the American Tobacco Company put the cartels out of business? Incarcerate convicted Mexicans who are involved in criminal activity here on Mexico's dime?
    How about we look for a long term, lasting humanitarian solution that does not involve dropping Napalm or cluster bombs on our own soil?

    dang cosmo!!!!! you don't miss a thing,yes I was joking but I ain't too crazy about your ideas either.

    Godfather.

    Just curious, what ideas aren't you crazy about, and what are your suggestions?

    Besides legalizing pot (which probably isn't going to happen for a long time), the rest seem like achievable, common-sense ideas to deal with a problem that isn't going away with just force and money thrown at it. We seem to try that tactic with all of our problems, and are surprised when it never works.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo, I think you are on a good track with your ideas. I'd also add that CEO's, not some middle manager, should be JAILED for hiring illegals.

    You are 100% correct on Mexico changing their laws too. They should not dictate what we do until they lead the way.
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