Gen. Stanley McChrystal

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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Associated press is stating that McChrystal has been removed from his position...
    Gen. David Petraeus is stepping in.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,897
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Associated press is stating that McChrystal has been removed from his position...
    Gen. David Petraeus is stepping in.


    As it should be.
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    To me this is not a left and right issue. I'm glad this guy said what he said. And for people to give this guy shit for is crazy. I'm not a repub and I'm not a dem. This guy gets the "biggest balls" award. All ways question your govnerment! If you don't agree with something say something about it! Always stand up for what you believe in! Get this fucking war over with. War should not last years. Do what needs to be done and get the fuck out.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    To me this is not a left and right issue. I'm glad this guy said what he said. And for people to give this guy shit for is crazy. I'm not a repub and I'm not a dem. This guy gets the "biggest balls" award. All ways question your govnerment! If you don't agree with something say something about it! Always stand up for what you believe in! Get this fucking war over with. War should not last years. Do what needs to be done and get the fuck out.

    disclaimer: I haven't read the entire Rolling Stone article, I'm just going off of AP and other news sources...

    But from what I read, it's not like he was "standing up for what he believed it", or disagreed with policy or whatever... it was basically him bitching about civilian leadership and badmouthing specific people. That is out of line and really has no place.

    Now if he said specific disagreements he had with civilian leadership, that (while still wrong to do) would have been a little more understandable.

    It wasn't about questioning government or getting the war over with, it was about complaining about his boss.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Dumb thing to say to the public, but this really shows just how bad Obama must be.
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    It was the correct thing to do relieving him of his command. I am just curious if this happened during Bush's tenure would all the Obama supporters been saying the same thing.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,897
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    It was the correct thing to do relieving him of his command. I am just curious if this happened during Bush's tenure would all the Obama supporters been saying the same thing.

    Dunno. I suspect that they wouldn't. The hatred of Bush trump all, even common sense.
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    To me this is not a left and right issue. I'm glad this guy said what he said. And for people to give this guy shit for is crazy. I'm not a repub and I'm not a dem. This guy gets the "biggest balls" award. All ways question your govnerment! If you don't agree with something say something about it! Always stand up for what you believe in! Get this fucking war over with. War should not last years. Do what needs to be done and get the fuck out.


    I don't think anyone is saying keep quite about things, but this guy was 5th in command and he is insulting the nations chain of command.
    Obama is trying to end the war and McChrystal didn't agree with Obama's plan. This whole mess puts our nation in a poor position - This guy doesn't have big balls because he gave an interview to Rolling Stone magazine - he has them for serving the country. He's an idiot for insulting our chain of command---
    Just imagine what the enemy is thinking now:
    Our country is struggling with so many issues, we are more divided today then ever before, America is going broke, we have a Gen. who is undermining our leaders, we have Gen with Health issues now taking control of all operations-- America isn't looking to strong right now and this is simply stupid act.....Dividing us even more!
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    It was the correct thing to do relieving him of his command. I am just curious if this happened during Bush's tenure would all the Obama supporters been saying the same thing.

    I would think so, but I don't know... Like I said earlier, it seemed that this was a personal thing, and that really doesn't have any place at any time.

    If in 2005 the commander in Iraq came out and said we should scale down troops or anything to indicate he wanted to get out of the war, then the left would give him hero status... but if he just came out and said personal things about Bush, the reaction would be more closely split (like it is now).
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    To me this is not a left and right issue. I'm glad this guy said what he said. And for people to give this guy shit for is crazy. I'm not a repub and I'm not a dem. This guy gets the "biggest balls" award. All ways question your govnerment! If you don't agree with something say something about it! Always stand up for what you believe in! Get this fucking war over with. War should not last years. Do what needs to be done and get the fuck out.


    I don't think anyone is saying keep quite about things, but this guy was 5th in command and he is insulting the nations chain of command.
    Obama is trying to end the war and McChrystal didn't agree with Obama's plan. This whole mess puts our nation in a poor position - This guy doesn't have big balls because he gave an interview to Rolling Stone magazine - he has them for serving the country. He's an idiot for insulting our chain of command---
    Just imagine what the enemy is thinking now:
    Our country is struggling with so many issues, we are more divided today then ever before, America is going broke, we have a Gen. who is undermining our leaders, we have Gen with Health issues now taking control of all operations-- America isn't looking to strong right now and this is simply stupid act.....Dividing us even more!

    I'm going to disagree with the bold part... Obama hasn't done anything to indicate he wants to end the war in Afghanistan.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    It looks official

    Time for the white house to take out HELP WANTED ads in the local recycler to end the war in Afghanistan.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Oops. Too late to update my resume. Looks like Petraeus is back in charge.
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Dumb thing to say to the public, but this really shows just how bad Obama must be.


    Dumb thing to say? The fact that this can be used to fuel our enemies - is simply "dumb"? We have 90,000 of our troops in harms way- and these comments can easily affect them and all you have to say is "dumb comment..... and it shows how bad Obama must be".... Come on.... Obama is trying to get our troops home and McChrystal doesn't think that can happen-
    We'll then tell it to the boss and if you can't do it- step down and let someone else step in. Your endangering our kids who are serving. Yeah ... what a dumb thing to do... :roll:
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    tonifig8 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Dumb thing to say to the public, but this really shows just how bad Obama must be.


    Dumb thing to say? The fact that this can be used to fuel our enemies - is simply "dumb"? We have 90,000 of our troops in harms way- and these comments can easily affect them and all you have to say is "dumb comment..... and it shows how bad Obama must be".... Come on.... Obama is trying to get our troops home and McChrystal doesn't think that can happen-
    We'll then tell it to the boss and if you can't do it- step down and let someone else step in. Your endangering our kids who are serving. Yeah ... what a dumb thing to do... :roll:

    how is Obama trying to get us out with 30,000 more added this past spring?
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  • Boxes&Books
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    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Dumb thing to say to the public, but this really shows just how bad Obama must be.


    Dumb thing to say? The fact that this can be used to fuel our enemies - is simply "dumb"? We have 90,000 of our troops in harms way- and these comments can easily affect them and all you have to say is "dumb comment..... and it shows how bad Obama must be".... Come on.... Obama is trying to get our troops home and McChrystal doesn't think that can happen-
    We'll then tell it to the boss and if you can't do it- step down and let someone else step in. Your endangering our kids who are serving. Yeah ... what a dumb thing to do... :roll:

    how is Obama trying to get us out with 30,000 more added this past spring?

    Obama wants to start getting us out by next summer- The additional troops were requested by McChrystal, in order to achieve Obama's objective. MrChrystal doesn't agree with that ... He's like the majority of the right wing nuts who feel the US should have 90,000 troops remain for an additional 8 years!
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    General McChrystal turned in his resignation and President Obama has accepted such. General Petraeus is the new person in charge.
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  • Model Roll Model
    Model Roll Model Posts: 215
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    that man has probably done more good for this country then anyone on this board.[/b]

    I really hope that the person 5th in the chain of command has done more for our country then someone on this board! :roll:

    No shit.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Model Roll Model wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    that man has probably done more good for this country then anyone on this board.[/b]

    I really hope that the person 5th in the chain of command has done more for our country then someone on this board! :roll:

    No shit.


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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Dumb thing to say to the public, but this really shows just how bad Obama must be.


    Dumb thing to say? The fact that this can be used to fuel our enemies - is simply "dumb"? We have 90,000 of our troops in harms way- and these comments can easily affect them and all you have to say is "dumb comment..... and it shows how bad Obama must be".... Come on.... Obama is trying to get our troops home and McChrystal doesn't think that can happen-
    We'll then tell it to the boss and if you can't do it- step down and let someone else step in. Your endangering our kids who are serving. Yeah ... what a dumb thing to do... :roll:

    how is Obama trying to get us out with 30,000 more added this past spring?
    According to the general's top secret report that was leaked by the Washington Post:

    "Failure to provide adequate resources also risks a longer conflict, greater casualties, higher overall costs, and ultimately, a critical loss of political support. Any of these risks, in turn, are likely to result in mission failure."
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Anyone in the military is restricted from free speech when it comes to talking to the media. It is NOT ALLOWED. Anyone in the military can tell you this, so of course the guy will be fired for doing so.

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