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fifefife Posts: 3,327
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
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At what point do we say "WHAT THE FUCK" this girl lived very close to me. I don't understand how this can happen still.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I can't comprehend killing one of your children... wtf... Like somehow there is more "honor" in taking your child's life, then letting them be their own person.

    I hope these two animals get gang raped in prison on a daily basis... what honor they'll have after that...
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  • Pearl DrummerPearl Drummer Posts: 4,627
    thats fuckin ridiculous! i really dont understand how you could take your own kids life!!!
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Sick. I cannot understand that----must take a lot of hate inside to do it.
    :(
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    I find it more troubling what the mother said. how far we have come for women right. :roll:
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.

    what does that mean? different cultures.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    fife wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.

    what does that mean? different cultures.

    What? That bullshit excuse doesn't fly with you?
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Meaning that cultures and practices vary from place to place. Something that are considered unacceptable here, maybe celebrated elsewhere and vice-versa. It's a very hard thing to separate because there's always a grey area in which one attempts to either push it's own ways on others.
    fife wrote:
    what does that mean? different cultures.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.

    he brought his to America...it's a little different here.

    Godfather.
  • NoHelmetHardHeadNoHelmetHardHead Posts: 75
    Killing people for "honor" is not any type of cultural practice. It is barbaric thinking and I hope they do get what is coming to them once they are jailed. For the father and brother to ask about consequences before killing someone in their own family just shows how they knew what they were doing was wrong and definitely knew better. Now they are trying to hide behind "cultural differences"
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    fife wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.

    what does that mean? different cultures.

    he was quoting me from another topic and the two topics are very different so I'm not sure I understand his point.

    Godfather.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Godfather. wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America.. back in their native country they may have got away with it.
    very sad, a young beautiful girl killed for trying to enjoy western freedoms then killed by the man that brought her here,25 years ain't long enough..second thought after the other inmates find out who those two are..their toast.

    Godfather.

    Different cultures bro.

    he brought his to America...it's a little different here.

    Godfather.

    Someone has to give up their culture when they move to America? Why that doesn't sound anything like the America I was raised to believe in.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    kick his teeth in and send him to the hole?
    maybe so...
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    NoHelmetHardHead wrote:
    Killing people for "honor" is not any type of cultural practice. It is barbaric thinking and I hope they do get what is coming to them once they are jailed. For the father and brother to ask about consequences before killing someone in their own family just shows how they knew what they were doing was wrong and definitely knew better. Now they are trying to hide behind "cultural differences"

    I agree...

    I am all for respecting "cultural differences", but if any culture says that it's better to kill your own child than to let them dress how they want or to go see a movie, then fuck that "culture" and anyone associated with it.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Meaning that cultures and practices vary from place to place. Something that are considered unacceptable here, maybe celebrated elsewhere and vice-versa. It's a very hard thing to separate because there's always a grey area in which one attempts to either push it's own ways on others.
    fife wrote:
    what does that mean? different cultures.

    sorry i understand what different cultures means. but was hoping that he would elaborate
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    fife wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Meaning that cultures and practices vary from place to place. Something that are considered unacceptable here, maybe celebrated elsewhere and vice-versa. It's a very hard thing to separate because there's always a grey area in which one attempts to either push it's own ways on others.
    fife wrote:
    what does that mean? different cultures.

    sorry i understand what different cultures means. but was hoping that he would elaborate

    I was being sarcastic. There are a few folks who can dismiss anything they don't personally have a problem with as simply being part of nature, or just someone's "culture", however they seem so quick to judge when it's something they do have a problem with. I think these same people like to call others hypocrites. The world is fucked up, I agree.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Different cultures bro.[/quote]

    he brought his to America...it's a little different here.

    Godfather.[/quote]

    Someone has to give up their culture when they move to America? Why that doesn't sound anything like the America I was raised to believe in.[/quote]

    in a way yes and in a way no. there has to be some integration into your society that you choose. that doesn't mean that if you moved to any other country you had to give up everything.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Lizard wrote:
    Sick. I cannot understand that----must take a lot of hate inside to do it.
    :(

    It's not a question of hate.
  • MoonTurtleMoonTurtle Posts: 752
    u find her words more troubling?


    fife wrote:
    I find it more troubling what the mother said. how far we have come for women right. :roll:
  • Brock SamsonBrock Samson Posts: 328
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome to America..

    correct me if i'm wrong, but from what i read, this happened in canada.
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  • edvwhymeedvwhyme Posts: 8
    Id just like to say that for every fucked up weird arsehole killer freak in the world there are thousands that ain't, dont let there insanity bring u down, love your world as best u can.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    MoonTurtle wrote:
    u find her words more troubling?


    fife wrote:
    I find it more troubling what the mother said. how far we have come for women right. :roll:

    in a way yes. what happen to her daughter is tragic and should never happen. when her mom said that she should have listened i found it very alarming because it seems to me that it was putt8ing the blame on the victim and that what the father and brother did was understandable as the daughter should have listened.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I remember hearing about this when it happened.
    This is so sad...
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Inside the mind of an honour killer in Pakistan: ‘It was all I could think about. I had to kill her’

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/inside-the-mind-of-an-honour-killer-in-pakistan-it-was-all-i-could-think-about-i-had-to-kill-her

    What a fucked up POS DIRTBAG...
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    lukin2006 said:

    Inside the mind of an honour killer in Pakistan: ‘It was all I could think about. I had to kill her’

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/inside-the-mind-of-an-honour-killer-in-pakistan-it-was-all-i-could-think-about-i-had-to-kill-her

    What a fucked up POS DIRTBAG...

    “I am proud of this man that he has done the right thing, to kill her,” says one of them, a man with a scraggly beard named Babar Ali. “We cannot allow anyone to marry outside our religion. He did the right thing.”

    Aaah. Religion. Nice. Peaceful. Religion.

    I got news for you, Lukin. The brother who killed his sister isn't the only 'POS DIRTBAG'. All the other 'POS DIRTBAGS' that saw this as the only option given their really cool culture and beliefs are 'POS DIRTBAGS' as well.

    Hey... at least he didn't bury her waist high and have him and his macho buddies throw stones at her until she died.

    F**king idiots.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^ I agree,

    Where I do not agree is the "different culture" phrase that gets tossed around...this has nothing to do with culture, this is pure and simple intolerance (I prefer evil) towards other cultures, believes...

    If people really believe this is cultural then it makes me wonder when those people will pull their "head out of the sand"... unless you have a mental illness in today's age, you know honour killing is WRONG.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    it's a muslim thing, welcome to islam.

    Godfather.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    it's a muslim thing, welcome to islam.

    Godfather.

    Yeah, because Americans don't do any fucked up shit to their kids ever, just Muslim folks.

    You are a nut.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    it's a muslim thing, welcome to islam.

    Godfather.

    Yeah, because Americans don't do any fucked up shit to their kids ever, just Muslim folks.

    You are a nut.
    did I say something that is not true ? if I said "honor killing" what would be the first thing to come to your mind ?
    and calling me names ain't nice ol' boy, I am truly offended ! guess I better find my "safe place" HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA !

    Godfather.

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