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CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
edited June 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
Terminator:
-Horrible soundtrack
-Horrible 80's dancing
-Horrible overuse of now antiquated technology (like walkmans with over-the-shoulder harnesses)
-Good use of suspense


So... Terminator = bad or good movie?

(add your own questionable movie below)
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  • Local CrewLocal Crew Posts: 745
    what?
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,282
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Terminator:
    -Horrible soundtrack
    -Horrible 80's dancing
    -Horrible overuse of now antiquated technology (like walkmans with over-the-shoulder harnesses)
    -Good use of suspense


    So... Terminator = bad or good movie?

    (add your own questionable movie below)

    Good


    ? The Goonies ?
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Local Crew wrote:
    what?

    Is "Terminator" a good or bad movie, by your personal standards.

    I gave some pros and cons, but it's up to you.

    ....I'm watching it now, and it seems to be very dated, compared to other films from around that era.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
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  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    Good.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Good of course!
    The 80's cheese doesn't matter, it's a classic!
    Now, with Commando....you might have an argument ;)
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,282
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Local Crew wrote:
    what?

    Is "Terminator" a good or bad movie, by your personal standards.

    I gave some pros and cons, but it's up to you.

    ....I'm watching it now, and it seems to be very dated, compared to other films from around that era.

    I don't think are getting it man!

    I've tried these "games" before with the pit, and more often than not...they always fail because people don't read the rules! :lol:
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    mca47 wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Terminator:
    -Horrible soundtrack
    -Horrible 80's dancing
    -Horrible overuse of now antiquated technology (like walkmans with over-the-shoulder harnesses)
    -Good use of suspense


    So... Terminator = bad or good movie?

    (add your own questionable movie below)

    Good


    ? The Goonies ?


    THE GOONIES = AWESOME!!

    spock_slap.gif

    Saw it 7 times in the theater when it came out.


    ...of course seeing it recently on cable, I realize fatal flaws in the movie. Such as how and why would a pirate, presumably rich but still somewhat limited in resources be able to create such an elaborate set of boobie traps. Like the piano that if you play the keys wrong drops you into infinity...

    However, still an amazing film, for a "kids film".

    I'll TAKE your Goonies, and RAISE you Indiana Jones 4 (the recent one).
    Thoughts?
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  • Local CrewLocal Crew Posts: 745
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Local Crew wrote:
    what?

    Is "Terminator" a good or bad movie, by your personal standards.

    I gave some pros and cons, but it's up to you.

    ....I'm watching it now, and it seems to be very dated, compared to other films from around that era.

    It's not bad! Sorry!!!
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    This question is all in the eye of the beholder. Movies for me that I would consider questionable are Lord of the Rings and The Departed.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    And for the record, The Terminator = awesome flick.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Good of course!
    The 80's cheese doesn't matter, it's a classic!
    Now, with Commando....you might have an argument ;)

    Commando doesn't have the cheese that Terminator had. Aside from an old cell phone, it looks fairly ambiguous in date. ...though as I'm watching Terminator now on amc, it's getting better now that they're out of the clubs and away from the material which dates it so significantly.


    ....but seriously, living tissue can travel thru time, but machines can't. Unless they're wrapped in living tissue? Are we talking physics and science, or are we talking about sneaking by a security guard to travel thru time? Either inorganic material can travel thru time, or it can't. ...my OP question stands. :lol:
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    This question is all in the eye of the beholder. Movies for me that I would consider questionable are Lord of the Rings and The Departed.


    The Departed didn't grab me at first. The more I've seen it, the more I appreciate the complexity of the film.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited June 2010
    ya, the eye of the beholder thing makes this hard to do...are we doing 'popular movies that suck'...or 'really dated movies that kinda suck cause they're dated'...or....:D
    Those bloody Twilight movies are borderline, and I think the fact that I even started to sit thru one makes me borderline too.

    edit: for the record I didn't see it in theatres and knew only that it was about vampires :D
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,282
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    I love the Goonies, but thank FUCK that didn't make it into the movie! :lol:
  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    CJMST3K wrote:
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    This question is all in the eye of the beholder. Movies for me that I would consider questionable are Lord of the Rings and The Departed.


    The Departed didn't grab me at first. The more I've seen it, the more I appreciate the complexity of the film.
    For me its just a hack movie at this point. The over acting is palatable. It wins all these awards and yes, it was well made, but its just a joke. Sheen, Walberg, Baldwin and Jack, the king of over acting.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Good of course!
    The 80's cheese doesn't matter, it's a classic!
    Now, with Commando....you might have an argument ;)

    Commando doesn't have the cheese that Terminator had. Aside from an old cell phone, it looks fairly ambiguous in date. ...though as I'm watching Terminator now on amc, it's getting better now that they're out of the clubs and away from the material which dates it so significantly.


    ....but seriously, living tissue can travel thru time, but machines can't. Unless they're wrapped in living tissue? Are we talking physics and science, or are we talking about sneaking by a security guard to travel thru time? Either inorganic material can travel thru time, or it can't. ...my OP question stands. :lol:
    :lol: I haven't watched it for a while...nor had I tried to poke holes in it. funny :D

    ya, and Commando had Samantha Micelli in it! :lol:
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Drowned Out wrote:
    ya, the eye of the beholder thing makes this hard to do...are we doing 'popular movies that suck'...or 'really dated movies that kinda suck cause they're dated'...or....:D
    Those bloody Twilight movies are borderline, and I think the fact that I even started to sit thru one makes me borderline too.


    I'm open. :D ...but probably movies released a while ago that now have time to judge them. :)
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  • Local CrewLocal Crew Posts: 745
    Drowned Out wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Good of course!
    The 80's cheese doesn't matter, it's a classic!
    Now, with Commando....you might have an argument ;)

    Commando doesn't have the cheese that Terminator had. Aside from an old cell phone, it looks fairly ambiguous in date. ...though as I'm watching Terminator now on amc, it's getting better now that they're out of the clubs and away from the material which dates it so significantly.


    ....but seriously, living tissue can travel thru time, but machines can't. Unless they're wrapped in living tissue? Are we talking physics and science, or are we talking about sneaking by a security guard to travel thru time? Either inorganic material can travel thru time, or it can't. ...my OP question stands. :lol:
    :lol: I haven't watched it for a while...nor had I tried to poke holes in it. funny :D

    ya, and Commando had Samantha Micelli in it! :lol:
    what?
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Local Crew wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:

    Commando doesn't have the cheese that Terminator had. Aside from an old cell phone, it looks fairly ambiguous in date. ...though as I'm watching Terminator now on amc, it's getting better now that they're out of the clubs and away from the material which dates it so significantly.


    ....but seriously, living tissue can travel thru time, but machines can't. Unless they're wrapped in living tissue? Are we talking physics and science, or are we talking about sneaking by a security guard to travel thru time? Either inorganic material can travel thru time, or it can't. ...my OP question stands. :lol:
    :lol: I haven't watched it for a while...nor had I tried to poke holes in it. funny :D

    ya, and Commando had Samantha Micelli in it! :lol:
    what?
    I was flip flopping on my earlier decision that Commando is borderline, because of my childhood crush on the damsel in distress.....Alyssa Milano (SM was her character on Who's the Boss? In those days).
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,710
    CJMST3K wrote:

    I'll TAKE your Goonies, and RAISE you Indiana Jones 4 (the recent one).
    Thoughts?
    Back on point, Indiana Jones and the Mountain of Suck = BAD!

    A monkey knows who is the bad guy to jump out of a tree and attack during a car chase?
    Just a bad bad film.

    Staying along those lines how about "Rocky Balboa"?
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Terminator is an excellent flick.

    Don't think i've ever watched goonies in totality.

    Indiana Jones 4 was brutal.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Poncier wrote:
    Rocky Balboa


    typically, once you hit 4, they go down hill. this was the case with the latest installment.

    you could include the last rambo in that group as well.
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  • nospokenwordsnospokenwords Posts: 65
    Terminator - Good
    The Departed - excellent

    The Running Man? For what it was, I enjoyed it.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Local Crew wrote:
    what?

    Is "Terminator" a good or bad movie, by your personal standards.

    I gave some pros and cons, but it's up to you.

    ....I'm watching it now, and it seems to be very dated, compared to other films from around that era.

    Dude...dated or not, that movie is fucking classic. It's 80's gold. Schwarzenegger's coolest, and most memorable role. For how low budget it was, it blew up and has become an iconic film.

    In conclusion: The Terminator isn't just good.....it's fucking awesome.
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    81 wrote:
    Indiana Jones 4 was brutal.

    yeah...I took my nephew to see it and afterwards I no longer felt like the "Cool Uncle". :lol:
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  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    CJMST3K wrote:
    The Departed didn't grab me at first. The more I've seen it, the more I appreciate the complexity of the film.

    The Original is much better. 'Infernal affairs'. Its subtitled but its a great watch. Beats The Departed hands down.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    It's funny you started this thread because I was kind of thinking of starting a similar thread about the movie Footloose. Absolutely lame dance scenes, the soundtrack, although great at the time, is pretty hard to listen to now. But still, it's a classic and probably in my top three for 80's movies.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    dcfaithful wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Local Crew wrote:
    what?

    Is "Terminator" a good or bad movie, by your personal standards.

    I gave some pros and cons, but it's up to you.

    ....I'm watching it now, and it seems to be very dated, compared to other films from around that era.

    Dude...dated or not, that movie is fucking classic. It's 80's gold. Schwarzenegger's coolest, and most memorable role. For how low budget it was, it blew up and has become an iconic film.

    In conclusion: The Terminator isn't just good.....it's fucking awesome.

    I agree. Lame dance scenes aside, it's one of the most suspenseful movies I've ever seen.
  • HammerdonkeyHammerdonkey Posts: 550
    A movie is for entertainment purposes only. It's not to be supported with factual data and accurate time travel hypotheses. That's going a little too deep into the overall goal of the film which is to allow you to see a fucking movie on a big screen....and to pocket a little cash.

    The Terminator - Really? Is it supposed to be the standard by which all travel into the past is supposed to be based on? Living tissue surviving atmospheric reentry and cyborg memory chips being created to withstand the heat of our ozone and a severe crash landing which doesn't damage fiber optics....please. I'm more concerned about how a Delorean can manage to fly. That's horseshit. Which brings us to...

    Back to the Future....questionable
  • Who PrincessWho Princess Posts: 7,305
    Love The Terminator. Doesn't matter how dated it may look, it's a great story. Action, suspense, do-or-die mission to save mankind, tragic love story, something there for everybody.
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