15 years old mexican killed by border patrol

cincybearcat

puremagic wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

puremagic wrote:

-Should U.S. border patrol and others continue to shoot first and ask questions later.

A bit of a stretch don't ya think? You seem to be assuming that this is the policy of the boarder patrol...if it was, they're would be a lot more shootings...everyday.

It’s a stretch only because you chose to take it out of context. I made no assumption of policy or guilt, I asking how do we move forward – when there are always going to be illegal crossings.

The more shootings, the more tensions – so where do we go from this point and at what cost?

Don't think I took it out of context at all, but maybe I misunderstood you. It seemed to me that you were asking if US border patrol and other continue to shoot first and ask question later...which to me says you think that is the current situation.

Perhaps you were stating it as ... what will happen if US border patrol started to shoot first as things continue to get worse. If that's the case, I'm sorry I misunderstood.

Dirtie_Frank

Jason P wrote:

If anything at most, a few warning shots would have sent a message. It will be interesting to see how this folds out. I would like to know where the agent was when he fired the shots. I heard reports that the kid was hit in the shoulder and head. If he was across the Rio Grande, that is some excellent marksmanship. I own a .40 caliber handgun and they are tricky to be consistent over 25 feet, especially if you are dodging rocks (which he had better been doing).

Not that I do not agree, but from my experience in the military, and I believe most law enforcement, are taught to shoot center mass, which means center of the chest. Like most people are saying I will wait to form an opinion after the facts are out. What I do think, is that the boarder guards have a tough job with a lot of rules that probably make it real difficult.

haffajappa

the wolf wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

An ongoing investigation... I think i'll wait and form an opinion after more of the facts are sorted out.

now don't go making sense here on the train !

I agree with you. Not enough facts to form an opinion here.

with you guys on that one...

rebornFixer

haffajappa wrote:

with you guys on that one...

Me too. Need more info.

blackredyellow

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Jason P wrote:

If anything at most, a few warning shots would have sent a message. It will be interesting to see how this folds out. I would like to know where the agent was when he fired the shots. I heard reports that the kid was hit in the shoulder and head. If he was across the Rio Grande, that is some excellent marksmanship. I own a .40 caliber handgun and they are tricky to be consistent over 25 feet, especially if you are dodging rocks (which he had better been doing).

Not that I do not agree, but from my experience in the military, and I believe most law enforcement, are taught to shoot center mass, which means center of the chest. Like most people are saying I will wait to form an opinion after the facts are out. What I do think, is that the boarder guards have a tough job with a lot of rules that probably make it real difficult.

Yeah, no one is really trained to fire "warning shots", which create their own issues (you just can't randomly shoot somewhere, the bullet is going to end up hitting something or someone that you don't want it to).