For those who say the 2010 bootleg quality is bad...

dimitrispearljam

even deaf can tell boston sound great and is the best so far..we wait the 3 last ones..

Johnny Abruzzo

I'm sorry - how can you be a big music fan and not have a good stereo? It's the most important thing! Put it on layaway, for the love.

mcameronrocks

Yet another reason why PJ is the best band ever. The debates they have caused throughout this Forum are too numerous to count. Obviously a testament to the intensity and commitment from their fans.

However, lets not forget why their fan base exists. It begins and ends with their music. That being said, IMO, the quality of their boots should be based on the quality of the mix of the music, not the crowd noise. How you listen to the boots(through a bad ass Panasonic $400 system or a Altec Lansing computer system with sub or a Ipod ear bud) matters only on what tour your debating.

For example, the 2000, 2005, 2006 and 2009 boots don't matter what you listen to them through. They all sound amazing. Although the volume of the '00 boots are lower, the mix is still excellent.

As for the '03 and '10 boots, a better "system" does improve the quality. You NEED a better system to improve the sound as it doesn't seem to be mixed as well.

The 2008 boots sound like shit no matter what you play them on.

I own the entire catalogue of '00, '05 and '06 boots and most of the '03 and '09 boots. My opinion is based of the multiple Gigs of boots on my hard drive.

gndcd402

i have a 1000W sony 5.1 system and they sound washy on that...

Gary Carter

smanchac wrote:

the 2000 boots sound good, but they must be turned up ALOT louder to have the same level of loudness. If i press play on a 2000 boot, then que up a 2010 song after, its going to explode the speakers!

And im not condescending... i have a great Panasonic stereo, if you don't believe me try it out yourself. Im just saying people basing their opinion of the boot, and some being bad and or flat, but listening on a laptop or ipod dont have the right to say that.
Oh. and my stereo only cost me 450, and ipods run close to 200 or more depending on which one... so its not about being able to afford it... its just what i got, for Christmas last year.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SC-BT30 ... B0021Z3FFY

End of my thoughts on this.

elitist much?

again it must be nice to be able to afford a good system for 450 bucks a month. thats how much my montly jeep payment and cell phone are combined.

mcameronrocks

gndcd402 wrote:

i have a 1000W sony 5.1 system and they sound washy on that...

Im just trying to give people the benefit of the doubt with the '10 boots. I don't like them at all, but not as bad as '08.

Gary Carter

gndcd402 wrote:

i have a 1000W sony 5.1 system and they sound washy on that...

malkin to crosby, crosby take the shots, he shoots and he SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!











btw-i'm not knocking the fine folks at kufala, its just that for me personally the 00 boots are the gold standard

phungi

Philly CDs sound great on the Alpine speakers in my car...

smanchac

I originally wrote this post in response to a different post about the quality being bad, then, they recanted because they were listening on their ipod then listened on a decent radio...

And, my radio doesn't cost 450 a month?!?! it cost me 450 once and its my home theater / blu ray player...

So, im not here to debate people, or be called an elitist... or anything like that. Just trying to say the 2010 boots sound great on a good system, and, i personally think nothing can sound "good" on ipod ear buds... they have no low end and no high end... just flat metallic sound...

That's my opinions on it. I cant wait for MSG boots after hearing Boston because it sounded GREAT TO ME!

Gary Carter

smanchac wrote:

And, my radio doesn't cost 450 a month?!?! it cost me 450 once and its my home theater / blu ray player...

So, im not here to debate people, or be called an elitist... or anything like that. Just trying to say the 2010 boots sound great on a good system, and, i personally think nothing can sound "good" on ipod ear buds... they have no low end and no high end... just flat metallic sound...

That's my opinions on it. I cant wait for MSG boots after hearing Boston because it sounded GREAT TO ME!

i wasn't saying your home theather cost 450 a month. i was making a point that to SOME people on here 450 bucks is alota money. yes you do come off elitist. like your some kinda mr know it all bout sound. people are complaining bout how since 2000 the bootlegs have been above average at best. a bootleg is gonna suck weather you listen to it on your ipod or laptop/computer or a 450 dollar home theater system. i can listen to any 00 bootleg on my ipod and the bands sounds crisp as a they can be where as a 05,06,08,09 boot sounds much different. i'm not knocking basecamp or kufala at all. both companies are very cool and do/did a great job for us pj fans.

smanchac

how am i mr know it all?!

and no, a bootleg doesnt have to sound bad. you make it seem like every boot has to sound bad. Were lucky enough to get soundboard recordings of all the shows... and ya know what? they dont sound bad to me.

This is seriously the stupidest debate ive ever had. A nice radio system over an ipod ear bud makes all the difference in the world, which is what i was trying to say like 8 posts ago.

Think what you want, say what you want, but im done arguing about this.

The 2010 bootlegs sound great to me. Period. Everyone else can think what they want and alot of people actually agreed with me about them sounding good on a good radio, if you listen on an ipod and want to complain, then, thats your problem, but dont say the actual recordings sound like shit, because they dont. :x

theserialthrilla

people people people..what are you doing..everyone has a point of view..

ive not listened to a 2010 boot yet..but all the poster above is saying is if you listen to a cd though a good standard hi-fi..its going to sound better then a ipod with crap headphones..thats a bit of a no brainer.

yes the 2000 sound great.what i dont understand is how ten year on they are still the best boots we have had.i thought tecnology had got better over the years.so why are the 2010 not the best by far?(im asking as i have no idea).

Gary Carter

theserialthrilla wrote:

people people people..what are you doing..everyone has a point of view..

ive not listened to a 2010 boot yet..but all the poster above is saying is if you listen to a cd though a good standard hi-fi..its going to sound better then a ipod with crap headphones..thats a bit of a no brainer.

yes the 2000 sound great.what i dont understand is how ten year on they are still the best boots we have had.i thought tecnology had got better over the years.so why are the 2010 not the best by far?(im asking as i have no idea).

and that's all i've been saying to this guy from my first point in here but yet he continues to not get that

Rossum20

The 2010 bootlegs don't seem to all be on the same level. After listening to the Boston show and Buffalo show back to back last night, the Boston show definitely had a more of a hollow, tinny sound to it.

The boots in 00 and 03 seem to be incredibly consistent and truly sound like they took the actual soundboard recording...boots now tend to sound like multiple mics are placed around the venue and recorded that way.

This is probably not the case, but the sound quality difference is staggering. We are lucky to get these boots and we are certainly spoiled...its just frustrating at times because they used to capture the live shows so well!

Rossum20

btw, I have a Cowon S9 which is one of the best mp3 players on the market in terms of sound quality...it has an excellent EQ and I am able to breathe a lot of life into these boots by fiddling with it. Obviously this is all relative though because when I use the right settings for an 03 boot, it makes those even better as well.


As a cheaper alternative, I highly recommend the Sony Walkman...the sound quality is A+...much better than any ipod and you can get one for around 100 bucks. Pair it with a nice pair of headphones and youll never turn back.