For those who say the 2010 bootleg quality is bad...

smanchac

You need to get those plastic earbuds out of your ear and listen on a REAL system!

I just got boston, playing it through my Panasonic 7.1 surround sound 1250 w system... the bass is thick, the crowd is loud, the snare is tight, the vocals are up... it sounds great!

I personally think the bootlegs from Bonnarroo and Va Beach 08 also sound great on my system.

But the 2010 boots sound really nice, i cant want for 5-18 - 5-21 to come out!

cbuckley

Ditto on that one. No complaints when actually played on a REAL stereo/surround system.

mookeywrench

didn't know the bootlegs were done in a 7.1 surround sound mix

veddertown

smanchac wrote:

You need to get those plastic earbuds out of your ear and listen on a REAL system!

I just got boston, playing it through my Panasonic 7.1 surround sound 1250 w system... the bass is thick, the crowd is loud, the snare is tight, the vocals are up... it sounds great!

I personally think the bootlegs from Bonnarroo and Va Beach 08 also sound great on my system.

But the 2010 boots sound really nice, i cant want for 5-18 - 5-21 to come out!

Good to hear. The Sony walkman X-series is great for listening to boots too with the noise cancelling headphones and has a top equalizer. If you're going to listen to PJ you need to it right!

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

you must have an incredible magical system from imaginary fairyland if you can get some of those 08 boots to sound great. they are easily some of the worst ever.

veddertown

MrSmith wrote:

you must have an incredible magical system from imaginary fairyland if you can get some of those 08 boots to sound great. they are easily some of the worst ever.

Cheaper than the average sound system.
http://www.qtips.com/products.php

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

veddertown wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

you must have an incredible magical system from imaginary fairyland if you can get some of those 08 boots to sound great. they are easily some of the worst ever.

Cheaper than the average sound system.
http://www.qtips.com/products.php

no im just not really into boots that sound like the band played in an empty parking lot with speakers they picked up at a salvage store the night before. that and they were pretty ragged that tour, but i can forgive that.

DewieCox

St Louis is the best sounding of any of the more recent ones that I've listened to. Lucky I was at the show.

veddertown

MrSmith wrote:

veddertown wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

you must have an incredible magical system from imaginary fairyland if you can get some of those 08 boots to sound great. they are easily some of the worst ever.

Cheaper than the average sound system.
http://www.qtips.com/products.php

no im just not really into boots that sound like the band played in an empty parking lot with speakers they picked up at a salvage store the night before. that and they were pretty ragged that tour, but i can forgive that.

I know just kidding around. Some moments on the 08 boots are quite bad soundwise. Bonnaroo I thought was ok and MSG2, some others were half decent but the quality went downhill gradually from there to eventually being very poor. Especially at the price

smanchac

No, their not in 7.1 but you can make it come from each channel so it is in 7.1

and no, not a magical system from fairy land, just a decent set of speakers instead of cheap plastic ipod earbuds.

My system is 1250 watts, and i play the cds on about 21 of 50. So, no, not a magic system, just one that sounds really good with it turned up a little.

I know its not LO2L quality, but, it doesnt sound bad, AT ALL

Boston rocked : )

JimmyV

smanchac wrote:

Boston rocked : )

It did indeed.

klusterfuk

i got the Indy and C-bus show on flac. convert to wma and they sound killer i think.

smanchac

klusterfuk wrote:

i got the Indy and C-bus show on flac. convert to wma and they sound killer i think.

actually, thats why i do

I take the offical cd and rip them to my xbox hooked to my receiver through an audio optical cable. then i play the files back through the xbox and they sound amazing in dolby digital.

Lanternjaw

Actually, for anyone who complains about the bottleg quality... you're spoiled as all hell. There isn't another band (save whoever else does this? DMB?) that put out a soundbound boot of their own shows like PJ does.

I've been a Bruce fan for years and we all sweat it out after every epic show just hoping someone got a nice audience bootleg. Dude's got the grandest archive of any rock'n'roller but they never release a drip.

PJ gives us the best we can ask for (soundbaoard boots)... to nitpick is, well, pretty damned foolish. Don't break the hand that feeds you.


personal caveat: I haven't actually read a thread where anyone bitched about the quality of the boots, but the above would be my response if I had.

Gary Carter

Lanternjaw wrote:

Actually, for anyone who complains about the bottleg quality... you're spoiled as all hell. There isn't another band (save whoever else does this? DMB?) that put out a soundbound boot of their own shows like PJ does.

phish
the dead
gov't mule
metallica


just to name a few

smanchac wrote:

You need to get those plastic earbuds out of your ear and listen on a REAL system!

I just got boston, playing it through my Panasonic 7.1 surround sound 1250 w system... the bass is thick, the crowd is loud, the snare is tight, the vocals are up... it sounds great!

I personally think the bootlegs from Bonnarroo and Va Beach 08 also sound great on my system.

But the 2010 boots sound really nice, i cant want for 5-18 - 5-21 to come out!

not everyone can afford a REAL system like you can. alota of us listen to bootlegs through our computers or ipods, but hey it must be nice to afford a REAL system :roll: .

smanchac

"not everyone can afford a REAL system like you can. alota of us listen to bootlegs through our computers or ipods, but hey it must be nice to afford a REAL system "

ok...
sorry i have a good stereo. But if the reason the bootleg sounds bad is because your listening on your laptop or ipod, dont complain about it... like ive read a few times already.

Thats all im saying.

Foo4Everlong

Ya know after St. Louis. which sounded a bit better than the first couple of boots and obviously better than 2008, I thought we were headed in the right direction. Nowhere but up. Unfortunately Boston sounds very hollow. Very echoey or tinney and distant. The crowd noise I could care less about. As a musician myself I pay for these bootlegs to hear the band with a little bit of the crowd mixed in. Anyone that says they want more crowd noise should go straight to the audience recordings imo. Anyways, I'm still very happy to have to ability to get these live shows so soon after the shows are over, but in the past we got them almost sooner with better quality. What is going on here? Matt seems to be the only one that is either well mic'ed or just mixed the best, cuz everyone else is drowned out.
A poster named reborn fixer wrote this in the Columbus 2010 bootleg thread which was articulated perfectly. I couldn't have said better myself nor agree completely. Anyways, this is what he said. Later

"I am still extremely happy that we are getting official boots, but I agree that the sound is a tad "off". The different channels blend together more now, into a wall of noise ... I like the 2000 and 2003 boots, where you could distinctly hear Mike, Stone, and Ed's guitars. More headphone friendly. I used to focus on Mike or Stone's channel, depending on the tune and my mood. Now, it takes more effort to hear the details. About the only thing I do appreciate on the 2008/2009 boots is Matt's drum sound, which is pretty solid. I am still buying all the boots, but perhaps the sound could be cleaned up a bit in 2010?

Gary Carter

smanchac wrote:

ok...
sorry i have a good stereo. But if the reason the bootleg sounds bad is because your listening on your laptop or ipod, dont complain about it... like ive read a few times already.

Thats all im saying.

compare these boots to 00 and you'll notice a huge difference

that's all people are saying

the band got it right in 00 and haven't done so since then

period end of story

bazzer

smanchac wrote:

sorry i have a good stereo. But if the reason the bootleg sounds bad is because your listening on your laptop or ipod, dont complain about it... like ive read a few times already.

Thats all im saying.

You come across kinda condescending, yet Panasonic are not well known for making "good" stereos.

That's all Im saying...

Niko80

metsfan wrote:

the band got it right in 00 and haven't done so since then

period end of story

00's for the win!
Some of those are just really really good.

I havent listened to the 10's yet myself, but 08 was a great disappointment to me.

smanchac

the 2000 boots sound good, but they must be turned up ALOT louder to have the same level of loudness. If i press play on a 2000 boot, then que up a 2010 song after, its going to explode the speakers!

And im not condescending... i have a great Panasonic stereo, if you don't believe me try it out yourself. Im just saying people basing their opinion of the boot, and some being bad and or flat, but listening on a laptop or ipod dont have the right to say that.
Oh. and my stereo only cost me 450, and ipods run close to 200 or more depending on which one... so its not about being able to afford it... its just what i got, for Christmas last year.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SC-BT30 ... B0021Z3FFY

End of my thoughts on this.