Philosophy / Theory / Constructive Ideas?

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Ok my friends; am gonna try a bit of a brave leap over the side and migrate from the ‘Goosebumps’ thread and try posting in more appropriate places if I have the time. I apologise in advance that it is difficult for me to digest too much argument / counterargument currently, since I am presently under National Health Service “Care” & incarceration (at time of posting) –[imho the second-to-last great taboo / stigma] Anyway, as a result my time receptiveness and attention span is pretty limited. However, constructive new ideas which will help me on my way would be appreciated though, quotes seem especially helpful for me currently



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Geometry / Geomancy / Feng Shui

(Adapted from Liz Simpson; Gaiabooks.co.uk, 2005)


The word ‘geometry’ means “measure of the earth’ and stems from the ancient Egyptian practice of redefining farm boundaries temporarily covered by water during the annual flooding of the Nile…..Geometry was inextricably linked by the Ancient Egyptians with harmony & music, since they both conform to a common law of ratio, that gives us a sense of the undeniable interconnectedness of all things, but also a more scientific understanding of how location can affect an individual…..

Throughout Nature self-generating patterns within plants conform to certain arithmetical sequences including one known as the Fibonacci Series (after mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci, c. 1170-1250). What is particularly significant about the Fibonacci Series is the we find they are in the ration of 1:1.1618025….. the ‘Golden Mean’.

Pi (3.141592653…..) is another special number derived from the proportional relationship between the diameter of a circle and its circumference.

Pi and the Golden Mean are called ‘transcendental’….

Could it be that it is because modern architects have largely ignored natural laws governing pattern and form that contemporary houses and cities can be such ‘soulless places’?

Structures such as Stonehenge merge these common geometrical forms; built thousands of years ago, and yet continue to fascinate countless visitors who travel halfway across the world to see them every year. One wonders if future generations will be similarly compelled to visit contemporary monuments, such as the UK’s Millennium Dome or US Pentagon.
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    First of all, I wish you well! I could give you advice that would probably be trite and probably something you've heard before, so I'll spare you that inconvenience. :lol: (by the way, what do you define as the LAST "great taboo"?)

    I really enjoy the concepts that you are speaking of, specifically "soulless" architecture and the profoundness of geometry that has been disregarded by so many builders.

    I like geodesic dome homes and I saw a "cave home" the other day that was located in Bisbee, AZ. And of course there is this:

    curved-shell-house-design.jpg

    Fractal geometry is mind-blowing to me and I try to create music (guitar, ukulele, various percussion) that sounds like this looks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_GBwuYuOOs&feature=fvw

    Lastly, I don't really know why but I thought this might be relevant for you:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aufuwMiKmE
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Thankyou kindly and very much, that was one of the most edifying responses I've had here for, oh........ages! (Maybe I should have posted something similar earlier, but it's pretty hard to do from a dodgy mobile phone in highly dubious confined surroundings!) [am currently on a 2nd-day's shore leave]

    I'll look at those Alan Watts shortly; I'm fairly sure I have seen some by him in my favourite bookstore ever - Elliott's Bay, downtown Seattle. I need a bumper sticker / T-shirt right now which says 'I'd rather be browsing at Elliott's Bay!' :)

    Sticking with the Seattle / Architecture connection have you ever seen the Experience Music Project? That is surely some kind of fairly hideous monstrosity (outside and some inside!); it looks at various points like an animal with the bones and skeleton on the outside. The content is great (last time I looked) but could be improved. I wanna see them let the kids loose on Aston Family-Man Barrett's bass and Peter Tosh's guitar. Now dis a would be proper reggae music! Can somebody post a suggestion to them that 10 kids annually win a golden ticket to get their hands on those guitars [maybe they already do this??]

    Whilst waiting for the psychs to measure precisely how sane I am, I am working my way through the 'Nei Ching' (Yellow Emporer's Classic of Chinese Medicine) and trying to translate it in a more 'right-here-right now' manner. I've never been pleased with any english rendition of this, and being a master of arts with some 'study time' right now, I thought I may as well make my hopeless brain useful. I'll post some here if I get the chance.

    'The last great stigma / taboo?' Let's just say it's our little secret. I'm sure it's going to be dealt with in the fullness of time tho.

    Many thanks

    t
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Nei Ching
    Suwen I (Plain speaking)
    An Exposition of Natural Truth in Ancient Times

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    Humanity has vitality
    Preserve, protect, store, safeguard
    Precious (qi) energy
    Don't waste it!




    Yellow Emperor
    Q: Why did the ancients exceed
    the age of 100 years
    Whilst the moderns fail around 50 years old?

    Is it context, environment, lifestyle
    Or is it abuse and neglect?


    Qibo;

    A: The elders lived in balance with nature
    Harmony
    No strain,
    Relaxed
    Modest
    Without extremes
    And so reaped
    What they deserved:
    A ripe old age
    With health both physical and mental.

    Today though
    People don't observe such decent principles
    And like the drunkards in the vinyard of the gospels
    Gluttons, filanderers and fools
    Inflame their passions
    (but don't we all?)

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    tremors wrote:
    Nei Ching
    Suwen I (Plain speaking)
    An Exposition of Natural Truth in Ancient Times

    __________________________________________

    Humanity has vitality
    Preserve, protect, store, safeguard
    Precious (qi) energy
    Don't waste it!




    Yellow Emperor
    Q: Why did the ancients exceed
    the age of 100 years
    Whilst the moderns fail around 50 years old?

    Is it context, environment, lifestyle
    Or is it abuse and neglect?


    Qibo;

    A: The elders lived in balance with nature
    Harmony
    No strain,
    Relaxed
    Modest
    Without extremes
    And so reaped
    What they deserved:
    A ripe old age
    With health both physical and mental.

    Today though
    People don't observe such decent principles
    And like the drunkards in the vinyard of the gospels
    Gluttons, filanderers and fools
    Inflame their passions
    (but don't we all?)

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    I read a good book about the Caucasus region of Russia in which many locals believed that some of their recent ancestors lived lives of up to 150 or even 200 years - http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Wrestlers- ... 988&sr=8-1


    Apparently the people there believe that living in mountain regions gives you a prolonged existence, or at least it did until they began to change their diets approx 100 years or so ago.
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Yeah, Russia is somewhere I know very little about, other than it can get very cold! I don't think it's the time for me to start reading Russian literature at this stage of the game tho! I reckon Mr McCready could still play guitar in Siberia mind!

    Yeah, this diet thing is not exactly rocket science. There's a book I have called 'the Okinawa way' which talks about how the Japanese in that region live for a long time and are healthy.

    The diet chimes with what I have been taught in Taoist circle (the 'Chang Ming' diet) - is basically whole grain local organic (-ish) seasonal fruit and veg, local herbs, good brown rice, very little meat, maybe a bit of fish. Can appear quite bland but is essentially a contemporary Macrobiotics.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    ok dudes! REady to roll with the punches? Advance birthday presie of whizzy lil qwerty fonev pretty sure it will breach the sacrosanct walls of pseudoscientific psychiatry, a morally bankrupt bereft barren and moribund profesion imho.

    once i fgure out how to fly this ting i might jst become a roving reporter inside the wall. If you are upset by ideas such as watching a 70 yr old gent drinking from his own colostomy bag then best steer cleAr of me for a while.....

    some of us are bound to sink and i hope it,s not me! I've got a hard hard head, but i've still got a black eye from last week so you may have to go easier on me than i do to youv

    alternatively i could just keep it clean and stick with the constrctive ideas! I predict a mix of both so this wont be nickelodeon i'm afraid!

    how fast is this train going btw? I think i'M stuck on the roof!
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    we live in a political world, we climb in the flames and shout god's name but we're not even sure what it is
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    tremors wrote:
    how fast is this train going btw? I think i'M stuck on the roof!

    We roll at average speed of 368 mph.

    Just keep a look out for the tunnels and hit the deck when you see one approaching.
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    thanks man, sounds like you know what ur doing! have found some juicy but clean quotes on mystical n visionary experience and perspectives for later (around dinner time!)
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    ‘Mystical Consciousness & Paranormal Perspectives’
    Nevill Drury (1991)


    ……it would seem that, from a paranormal viewpoint; a return to some sort of variation on Descartes’ mind / body dualism is called for. In operative waking consciousness, mind and body clearly function in tandem, but states of dissociative visionary consciousness require a very different model of causuality. And while orthodox neurobiologists may be quite convinced that the physical brain is the source of consciousness, as the noted philosopher and psychologist William James observed, it is by no means obvious, in terms of scientific observation, whether consciousness is GENERATED by the brain or TRANSMITTED THROUGH it……..

    The projection of consciousness beyond the normal frame of reference lies at the heart of visionary illumination. A ‘visionary’, in these terms is one who can transcend his familiar environs and enter the inner world of imaginal reality. [See Police: ‘Secret Journey’?]. Sometimes this inner journey may head off on a kind of PSYCHIC MEANDERING, but at other times it undoubtedly leads to EXPERIENTIAL BREAKTHROUGHS and even towards the mystical attainment of ‘unity consciousness’ itself.


    THE VISIONARY PROCESS CAN BE DISARMINGLY SIMPLE, AS THE FOLLOWING DESCRIPTION OF INSPIRATIONAL TAOIST ARTISTS INDICATES:


    “Chinese painters are said to have lived for weeks on end in the mountains and forests, among animals, or even in the forests, among animals, or even in the water, in order to lose themselves completely in nature. Mi Fei called an oddly shaped rock his brother! :) Fam K’uan (circa 1000ad) livedin the mountains and forests, often spending the whole day upon a crag and gazing about him, just to drink the beauty of the countryside. Even when there was snow on the ground, he would wander to and fro by moonlight, staring determinedly ahead, to achieve inspiration. Kao K’Oming (tenth century AD) loved darkness and silence; he used to roam about in the wild and spend days on end contemplating the beauty of the woods, oblivious of himself. When he reached home again he retired to a room where he would not be disturbed and allowed his soul to pass beyond the bounds of this world. In this condition he produced his pictures”

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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    On consciousness: I don't think it is merely a brain function. I think our entire nervous system has hundreds of messages being sent to it every second and only a fraction is translated by the brain. Consciousness seems to be created by the organism as a whole... the forebrain isn't in control it only thinks it is. This is why everything seems to fall into chaos when a person is under the influence of entheogens (like lsd). Your whole body becomes "aware" of all the signals being sent to it and your mind can't keep up with all the signals and everything becomes confusing and chaotic. Everything works together in harmony and the whole mind/body dualism thing is an illusion, or at least I think so. As far as "insanity" I don't really believe in all the psychological explanations or models and labels for rationalizing your state of mind. Rather, I think it is mostly neuro-chemical imbalances (accidents, if you will) and sometimes genetic. I've found that with a few days of cleansing out my body with very little food, no meat, and lots of water... I usually feel 100x better. Especially when this is done in nature and without any responsibility but to survive. You know, the etymology of the word "BE" stems from a word that meant "lost in the woods." I hear sometimes people want to just "BE" and don't know how or are confused by what that means; but I think if you get yourself lost in the woods (into the wild) with just your survival on your mind it can be very positive for you as a living/breathing organism. It can help achieve a neuro-chemical balance. A life of 100 years or longer can be achieved with this lifestyle, especially if yoga, good hygiene (especially of the mouth), dance, laughter, friendship, education, and proper sleep is included.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Wise and fine words hestillstands, thankyou. Are you male or female by the way? :)


    The Real Miracle

    When Bankei was preaching at Ryumon temple, a Shinshu priest, who believed in salvation through repetition of the name of the Buddha of Love, was jealous of his large audience and wanted to debate with him.

    Bankei was in the midst of a talk when the priest appeared, but the fellow made such a disturbance that Bankei stopped his discourse and asked about the noise.

    "The founder of our sect," boasted the priest, "had such miraculous powers that he held a brush in his hand on one bank of the river, his attendant held up a paper on the other bank, and the teacher wrote the holy name of Amida through the air. Can you do such a wonderful thing?"

    Bankei replied lightly: "Perhaps your fox can perform that trick, but that is not the manner of Zen. My miracle is that when I feel hungry I eat, and when I feel thirsty I drink."
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
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    Gasan was sitting at the bedside of Tekisui three days before his teacher's passing. Tekisui had already chosen him as his successor.

    A temple recently had burned and Gasan was busy rebuilding the structure. Tekisui asked him: "What are you going to do when you get the temple rebuilt?"

    "When your sickness is over we want you to speak there," said Gasan.

    "Suppose I do not live until then?"

    "Then we will get someone else," replied Gasan.

    "Suppose you cannot find anyone?" continued Tekisui.

    Gasan answered loudly: "Don't ask such foolish questions. Just go to sleep!"
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Male.

    Keep the lasagna flying!
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Cool. Is probably the sign of a good writer to more indistinguishable. I do like a good old Linda McCartney's veggie lasagne actually - you probably don't have them outside the UK tho!

    Here's another for the mix:

    "Man cannot always live his existence between the cosy walls of time, insulated by narrow but comfortable scientific postulations, and warmed at the hearth of the predictable certitudes of uniformitarian laws governing created matter. When time shall be no more, and when the elements of matter are dissolved, when insularity shall curl its blackened flakes of brittle fragments; then, attend more massive statutes, and loom hugely the vast spiritual verities so flimsily hidden by the transient wrapping. The tottering walls bulge with the tremendous pressures of eternity, and so soon the house of time shall collapse and the everlasting swell of the eternal ages burst in, break down, and carry away the petty flotsam and jetsam of what we call time, apparently now so secure. But you have your witness."
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    tremors wrote:
    Cool. Is probably the sign of a good writer to more indistinguishable. I do like a good old Linda McCartney's veggie lasagne actually - you probably don't have them outside the UK tho!

    Here's another for the mix:

    "Man cannot always live his existence between the cosy walls of time, insulated by narrow but comfortable scientific postulations, and warmed at the hearth of the predictable certitudes of uniformitarian laws governing created matter. When time shall be no more, and when the elements of matter are dissolved, when insularity shall curl its blackened flakes of brittle fragments; then, attend more massive statutes, and loom hugely the vast spiritual verities so flimsily hidden by the transient wrapping. The tottering walls bulge with the tremendous pressures of eternity, and so soon the house of time shall collapse and the everlasting swell of the eternal ages burst in, break down, and carry away the petty flotsam and jetsam of what we call time, apparently now so secure. But you have your witness."

    That is beautiful. I love it when I have to go to the dictionary to make sense of a quote :) Now I know the difference between flotsam and jetsam and that the latter doesn't refer to an airplane in any way.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Thanks - not my own work but I'm not going to reveal all my sources on day two am I?! ;)

    If you liked that you might like TS Eliot's Four Quartets, but also 'Housekeeping' by Marilynne Robinson (U.S.A.) - That is my favourite piece of writing ever - it's so poignant, vivid and poetic for a novel which is only thin in size, but you have to digest it SLOWLY, is incredibly meditative, but heartbreaking.... The life of a Transient. I couldn't recommend it highly enough.

    Gonna have some food soon, then listen to Boston bootleg (relative priorities here!)


    Here, try this one for size. Think it might stir things up a bit. Looks like there's a storm brewing around here anyways.....

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    The pages of Revelation lie open in your empty eyes of blue
    In the late afternoon sun fills the room with a mist in the garden before the fall
    I watch your hands smooth the front of your blouse and seven drops of blood fall

    (Springsteen)


    These are the words of him who holds the 7 stars in his right hand and walks among the 7 golden lampstands: I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.

    Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. Remember the height from which you have fallen!

    Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

    But you have this in your favour: You hate the practices of NICOLAITONS, which I also hate.

    He who has ears, let him hear what the spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

    NIV (Anglicised, 2009)



    “You tell lies, when the truth will do
    You’re the social chameleon yeah you change to suit the people around you….”


    (Ian Brown)
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    duly noted on the TS Elliot recommendation. Along those lines of the quote you listed earlier and above, I'd recommend "Jitterbug Perfume" by Tom Robbins. He makes words his bitch. Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 reads before I'm able to digest a single sentence. Somewhere I heard him say that he writes each sentence sometimes 20 or 30 times before he is satisfied with it (that could be why he writes a book only every 4 or 5 years or so).

    I don't know where this thread is going but it has sort of a "James Joyce" stream of consciousness feel to it, which is a good thing.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    duly noted on the TS Elliot recommendation. Along those lines of the quote you listed earlier and above, I'd recommend "Jitterbug Perfume" by Tom Robbins. He makes words his bitch. Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 reads before I'm able to digest a single sentence. Somewhere I heard him say that he writes each sentence sometimes 20 or 30 times before he is satisfied with it (that could be why he writes a book only every 4 or 5 years or so).

    I don't know where this thread is going but it has sort of a "James Joyce" stream of consciousness feel to it, which is a good thing.


    Yeah, I think this is becoming a 'words' thread. Very efficient on bandwidth (ASCII & optical fibres I seem to remember from my little MSc stuff back in 94/95). What you said about Tom Robbins is interesting Flaubert was like that too - said he aimed to make 'chaque sentence parfait'.

    I had some very happy times working the bars of France as a youth over in Normandy, reading Orwell's Down & Out in Paris & London.... In person I'm kinda known for my witty anecdotes from such times, so on a merrymaking day I might try some of those here; quite hard to recreate I fear - I can remember one time watching the doors movie, then drinking and smoking in various nefarious bars all night before we decided to drive North to some nightclub... I can remember sitting in the back thinking 'I'm really glad I'm not driving' then about half an hour later realising that our driver had consumed twice as much as I had! (remember tho kids this is neither big nor clever, it was kinda a French thing back then).

    One of my big problems is I have an almost photographic memory - and a lot of things I'd rather forget. Ask me to remember any event from the past 25 years and I think I could dig it out verbatim without too much bother. Anyway, 'on veras'....
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    MAXIM SLAYER:


    -FRIENDS CLOSE / ENEMIES CLOSER?


    -WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER?






    MAXIM SAYER:


    -'FEAR OF BETRAYAL': A REAL NASTY CUP OF TEA
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Fear is there because instinctively you know there is something wrong. It is your friend. It lets you know to be careful. Voice your fear once it is summoned; voice it calmly and rationally. Usually fear is the correction emotion when it is present. The worst feeling, though, is being afraid to tell me about your fear.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Spot on. Thanks.

    The fear of fear. That is a hard trap indeed.

    Think I'm gonna step away into the gathering stormclouds and listen to the band. A very rich vein of truth and fortitude!
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    tremors wrote:
    Here's another for the mix:

    "Man cannot always live his existence between the cosy walls of time, insulated by narrow but comfortable scientific postulations, and warmed at the hearth of the predictable certitudes of uniformitarian laws governing created matter. When time shall be no more, and when the elements of matter are dissolved, when insularity shall curl its blackened flakes of brittle fragments; then, attend more massive statutes, and loom hugely the vast spiritual verities so flimsily hidden by the transient wrapping. The tottering walls bulge with the tremendous pressures of eternity, and so soon the house of time shall collapse and the everlasting swell of the eternal ages burst in, break down, and carry away the petty flotsam and jetsam of what we call time, apparently now so secure. But you have your witness."

    Who wrote/said this?
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    who'd have guessed that dire straits' communique album would be the living definition of punk rock!? not i for one!

    mobile fone microwaves are a bloody health hazard, trust me. if your head starts baking, step away!
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    tremors wrote:
    who'd have guessed that dire straits' communique album would be the living definition of punk rock!? not i for one!

    Me neither.
    tremors wrote:
    mobile fone microwaves are a bloody health hazard, trust me. if your head starts baking, step away!

    Point duly noted!
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    TAI CHI VS KUNG FU


    WING CHUN IS
    ECONOMY OF MOTION
    WHISTLE PAST ONE EAR
    ENOUGH


    TAI CHI IS
    EXPANSIVE
    A RURAL ART
    RURAL DISCIPLINE

    DEFENDING BOUNDLESS BEAUTIFUL
    COUNTRYSIDE
    NOT DEICIDE
    NOT SUICIDE
    NOT GENOCIDE

    LIVE HONG KONG / LONDON
    TRAVEL WITH WING CHUN
    DEFEND YOUR BOXED AREA


    TAI CHI
    SURROUNDS AND PROTECTS

    SHORTEST DISTANCE BETWEEN 2 POINTS?
    CIRCLE IS ALWAYS QUICKER


    t, 2010
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    'LIKE SALT WATER, PLEASURABLE THINGS
    INCREASE ATTACHMENT HOWEVER THEY ARE USED
    LIKE A SUMMER RAINBOW
    APPEARING BEAUTIFUL BUT UNTRUE
    VIEW THEM LIKE THIS
    & AVOID ATTACHMENT & LUST'


    To generate true love you need to know how it differs from attachment

    ordinary love & compassion R Intertwined with
    attachment
    because their motivations are selfsh
    you care about certain people because they are temporarily your friend


    HH DALAI LAMA
    'WIDENING THE CIRCLE OF LOVE'
    2005
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    the philosopher (EB)

    ENOUGH OF THOUGHT, PHILOSOPHER!
    TOO LONG HAST THOU BEEN DREAMING
    UNLIGHTENED, IN THIS CHAMBER DREAR
    WHILE SUMMER'S SUN IS BEAMING -
    SPACE SWEEPNG SOUL, WHAT SAD REFRAIN CONCLUDES THY MUSINGS ONCE AGAIN?

    'O FOR THE TIME WHEN I SHALL SLEEP
    WITHOUT IDENTITY,
    AND NEVER CARE HOW RAIN MAY STEEP
    OR SNOW MAY COVER ME!

    'NO PROMISED HEAVEN, THESE WILD DESIRES
    COULD ALL OR HALF FULFIL;
    NO THREATENED HELL, WITH QUENCHLESS FIRES,
    SUBDUE THIS QUENCHLESS WILL!'

    (....cont...)
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
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    willing, he yields
    submissive he falls
    the blazing coals of
    eternal fire erupt
    with shocking explosions
    to meet the sacrifice
    as the retaining lattice spreads
    to emesh and impale the agonising sufferer
    for those long seconds of infinite pain
    In compressed etenity til
    stupendou sight
    till the volcanic fire of
    eternal wrath die out
    till the furnace
    is but dead ash
    until legal justice
    is fully met
    until the curse of the law fully uttered
    until righeousness fully vindicate
    until 'it is finished'
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    THE PHILOSOPHER, EMILY BRONTE (PT 2)


    so said i, and still say the same
    still to my death will say
    3 gods within this little frame
    are warring night and day

    Heaven could not hold them all, and yet
    THEY ALL ARE HELD IN ME
    AND MUST BE MINE TILL I FORGET
    MY PRESENT ENTITY

    O FOR THE TIME WHEN IN MY BREAST
    THEIR STRUGGLES WILL BE O'ER
    O FOR THE DAY WHEN I SHALL REST
    AND NEVER SUFFER MORE!


    (TO BE CONT...)
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