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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited May 2010
    WindNoSail wrote:
    But its morning in Europe so maybe that's the problem. We have to wait for the sun to come up.:
    :?: :?: Don't understand what you mean... it's all over the news in the UK & on the continent.


    WindNoSail... where do you live?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tilla.html

    At least 16 dead as Israeli troops storm Gaza aid flotilla


    Israeli commandoes have stormed a flotilla of ships carrying activists and aid supplies to the blockaded Palestinian enclave of Gaza, killing as many as as 16 of those on board.


    By Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent and Matthew Kalman in Jerusalem
    Published: 7:21AM BST 31 May 2010

    Fighting broke out between the activists and the masked Israeli troops, who rappelled on to deck from helicopters before dawn.

    A spokesman for the flotilla, Greta Berlin, said she had been told that ten people had been killed and dozens wounded, accusing Israeli troops of indiscriminately shooting at "unarmed civilians". But an Israeli radio station said that between 14 and 16 were dead in a continuing operation.

    "How could the Israeli military attack civilians like this?" Ms Berlin said. "Do they think that because they can attack Palestinians indiscriminately they can attack anyone?

    "We have two other boats. This is not going to stop us."

    The Israeli government's handling of the confrontation was under intense international pressure even as it continued. The Israeli ambassador to Turkey, the base of one of the human rights organisation which organised the flotilla, was summoned by the foreign ministry in Ankara, as the Israeli consulate in Istanbul came under attack.

    One Israeli minister issued immediate words of regret. "The images are certainly not pleasant. I can only voice regret at all the fatalities," Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, the trade and industry minister, told army radio.

    But he added that the commandoes had been attacked with batons and activists had sought to take their weapons off them.

    Israeli military sources said four of its men had been injured, one stabbed, and that they had been shot at.

    "The flotilla's participants were not innocent and used violence against the soldiers. They were waiting for the forces' arrival," they were quoted by a news website as saying.

    The flotilla had set sail on Sunday from northern, or Turkish, Cyprus.

    Six boats were led by the Mavi Marmara, which carried 600 activists from around the world, including Mairead Corrigan Maguire, the Northern Ireland peace protester who won a Nobel Prize in 1976.

    It came under almost immediate monitoring from Israeli drones and the navy, with two vessels flanking it in international waters. The flotilla, which had been warned that it would not be allowed to reach Gaza, attempted to slow and change course, hoping to prevent a confrontation until daylight, when the Israeli military action could be better filmed.

    But in the early hours of this morning local time commandoes boarded from helicopters.

    The activists were not carrying guns, but television footage shown by al-Jazeera and Turkish television channels show hand-to-hand fighting, with activists wearing life-jackets striking commandoes with sticks.

    The Israeli army said its troops were assaulted with axes and knives.

    The television footage did not show firing but shots could be heard in the background. One man was shown lying unconscious on the deck, while another man was helped away.

    A woman wearing hijab, the Muslim headscarf, was seen carrying a stretcher covered in blood.

    The al-Jazeera broadcast stopped with a voice shouting in Hebrew: "Everyone shut up".

    Israel imposed its blockade on Gaza after the strip was taken over by the militant group Hamas in 2007. It has allowed some food and medical supplies through, but has prevented large-scale rebuilding following the bombardment and invasion of 2008-9.

    The flotilla is the latest in a series of attempts by activists to break through the blockade. The boats were carrying food and building supplies.

    Activists said at least two of the other boats, one Greek and one Turkish, had been boarded from Israeli naval vessels. Activists said two of the other boats in the flotilla were American-flagged.

    The confrontation took place in international waters 80 miles off the Gaza coast.

    It was attacked by the head of the Hamas government in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh.

    "We call on the Secretary-General of the U.N., Ban Ki-moon, to shoulder his responsibilities to protect the safety of the solidarity groups who were on board these ships and to secure their way to Gaza," he said.

    Turkish television meanwhile showed hundreds of protesters trying to storm the Israeli consulate in Istanbul. The incident will be particularly damaging for Israel's relations with what had been seen as its closest ally in the Muslim world.

    "By targeting civilians, Israel has once again shown its disregard for human life and peaceful initiatives," a Turkish foreign ministry statement said. "We strongly condemn these inhumane practices of Israel.

    "This deplorable incident, which took place in open seas and constitutes a fragrant breach of international law, may lead to irreparable consequences in our bilateral relations."
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited May 2010
    Byrnzie wrote:

    But he added that the commandoes had been attacked with batons and activists had sought to take their weapons off them.

    Israeli military sources said four of its men had been injured, one stabbed, and that they had been shot at.


    The Israeli army said its troops were assaulted with axes and knives.

    and they said knives and clubs earlier...man, they sure do change their story a lot!
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    ok so the sports report is about to start so that means the news for this commercial channel is basically over. NO MENTION OF THE ISRAELI ATTACK.

    well see what the 6 oclock news has to say.
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  • WindNoSail
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    redrock wrote:
    WindNoSail wrote:
    But its morning in Europe so maybe that's the problem. We have to wait for the sun to come up.:
    :?: :?: Don't understand what you mean... it's all over the news in the UK & on the continent.


    WindNoSail... where do you live?

    US, in the middle....
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited May 2010
    ....'so called humanitarian aid was not humanitarian....' What the israeli foreign minister (I think) just said.... :roll:

    I just can't understand how they can say such things with a straight face. It would seem the humanitarians were also armed to the teeth!
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    WindNoSail wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    WindNoSail wrote:
    But its morning in Europe so maybe that's the problem. We have to wait for the sun to come up.:
    :?: :?: Don't understand what you mean... it's all over the news in the UK & on the continent.


    WindNoSail... where do you live?

    US, in the middle....

    :roll: I had a senior moment :roll: YOU have to wait for the sun to come up, not me! Duh!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Among those aboard the boats were an 85 year old Holocaust survivor, and a 1976 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    so the 2 commercial 6 oclock news programmes said nothing.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Among those aboard the boats were an 85 year old Holocaust survivor, and a 1976 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
    Gun toting and/or knifed carrying though! If israel is to be believed.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    EMERGENCY PROTESTS TODAY:
    11am OUTSIDE THE FOREIGN OFFICE, WHITEHALL
    2 - 4pm DOWNING STREET
    Monday 31 May

    MANCHESTER - 5PM OUTSIDE BBC HQ (Oxford Road)

    20 unarmed civilians on board the international humanitarian aid flotilla to Gaza have been killed by Israeli naval forces.

    Israeli commandos descending from helicopters stormed the six-boat flotilla in the early hours of Monday (31) morning, while it was in international waters, about 90 miles (150km) from Gaza, where Israel has no jurisdiction.

    The death toll rose steadily from around 2am. Dozens more have been injured.

    European and Turkish parliamentarians, and citizens from countries including the USA, Malaysia and across Europe were on board the flotilla, attempting to break the siege.

    Betty Hunter, General Secretary of Palestine Solidarity Campaign, said: 'Israel's actions today amount to piracy. What kind of country murders unarmed civilians in order to stop humanitarian supplies reaching a starving population? The British government failed to defend its citizens on board the flotilla, but now its silence must end, and it must condemn Israel in the strongest terms. Its moral and political obligations lie with those who peacefully attempt to deliver aid, not with a country which repeatedly violates international law, and has now murdered innocent and unarmed carriers of aid.'

    Sarah Colborne, PSC's director of campaigns and operations, was on board the Turkish ship, Mavi Marmara. We have not heard from her today.

    Please call and email the Foreign Office to demand it end its silence and condemns Israel's actions
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited May 2010
    catefrances wrote:
    ok so the sports report is about to start so that means the news for this commercial channel is basically over. NO MENTION OF THE ISRAELI ATTACK.

    well see what the 6 oclock news has to say.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... tion=world

    Aussies onboard during deadly convoy raid

    By Middle East correspondent Ben Knight, wires

    Updated 37 minutes ago

    An Australian journalist and photographer onboard aid boats headed for the Gaza Strip have not been heard from since at least 10 people were reportedly killed during a clash with Israeli commandos.

    A Fairfax spokesman says journalist Paul McGeough and photographer Kate Geraghty last made contact around noon (AEST) today while onboard the MV Samoud.

    Israel's defence force says at least 10 people were killed when commandos stormed a convoy of six ships carrying aid to Gaza.

    It was led by a Turkish vessel with 600 people on board and set sail for Gaza from international waters off Cyprus on Sunday in defiance of an Israeli-led blockade of the territory.

    Commandos boarded the ships in international waters overnight, backed up by warships and helicopters.

    Mr McGeough and Ms Geraghty joined the flotilla in Crete about a week ago, the Fairfax spokesman said.

    He says the pair are on assignment covering the flotilla and have been moving from boat to boat - but were last known to be on the MV Samoud.

    Both have satellite phones but Mr McGeough reported his GPS was not working, blaming the malfunction on Israeli attempts to jam communications.

    Mr McGeough's last audio transmission revealed Israeli forces were using the cloak of darkness to approach the aid vessels.

    "At 4.20[am, local time] we realised all communications on the boat were jammed," he reported.

    "4.22[am] - we see two zodiacs moving in, pressing through. Two more zodiacs. Now there are five of them astern of us.

    "There's white wakes on black water. Search lights on one of the cargo ships and from the Turkish ferry are picking up the zodiacs now."

    It is understood Israeli forces boarded the Mavi Marmara and opened fire after passengers attacked them with axes and knives.

    Israeli army radio reported 10 to 14 people were killed in the clash but it is not known if any Israeli commandos were among the dead.

    Four Israeli commandos have been wounded, apparently by gunfire.

    The Israel Defence Force says one of its weapons was stolen and used against its soldiers.

    An Israeli religious medical service, ZAKA, said seven people had been admitted to hospital in Haifa, Israel's main naval base, one of them in a serious condition.

    Turkey says it has "strongly protested" against Israel's military action.

    Most of the 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza rely on aid, blaming Israel for imposing restrictions on the amount and type of goods it allows into the territory.

    The United Nations and Western powers have urged Israel to ease its restrictions to prevent a humanitarian crisis. They have been urging Israel to let in concrete and steel to allow for post-war reconstruction.

    Israel denies there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying food, medicine and medical equipment are allowed in regularly.

    It says the restrictions are necessary to prevent weapons and materials that could be used to make them from reaching Hamas.

    The European Union has called for an inquiry into the deaths aboard the Gaza aid ships.

    In a statement, the EU's foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton expressed her regret for the loss of life and the violence.

    She also called for the immediate and unconditional opening of the crossing into Gaza to allow in humanitarian aid.

    Hamas has urged Arabs and Muslims to "rise up" in front of Israeli embassies around the world in protest against the raids.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    SBS world news australia had this as their lead story.

    they preempted the actual story by saying one story that dominates the news tonight. they had an excellent report and spoke to mark negev, a spokeman for the israeli govt as well as arik bachar, foreign editor for ma' ariv in tel aviv.

    negev said the israelis did evrything they could and the AID flotilla declined to hand over the aid to the israelis so they could transfer it to gaza. cant imagine why not. :roll:

    deputy foreign minister danny ayalon said the flotilla was an outrageous provocation.


    the coverage lasted at least 8 minutes
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited May 2010
    Byrnzie wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    ok so the sports report is about to start so that means the news for this commercial channel is basically over. NO MENTION OF THE ISRAELI ATTACK.

    well see what the 6 oclock news has to say.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... tion=world

    Aussies onboard during deadly convoy raid

    By Middle East correspondent Ben Knight, wires

    Updated 37 minutes ago

    An Australian journalist and photographer onboard aid boats headed for the Gaza Strip have not been heard from since at least 10 people were reportedly killed during a clash with Israeli commandos.

    A Fairfax spokesman says journalist Paul McGeough and photographer Kate Geraghty last made contact around noon (AEST) today while onboard the MV Samoud.

    Israel's defence force says at least 10 people were killed when commandos stormed a convoy of six ships carrying aid to Gaza.

    It was led by a Turkish vessel with 600 people on board and set sail for Gaza from international waters off Cyprus on Sunday in defiance of an Israeli-led blockade of the territory.

    Commandos boarded the ships in international waters overnight, backed up by warships and helicopters.

    Mr McGeough and Ms Geraghty joined the flotilla in Crete about a week ago, the Fairfax spokesman said.

    He says the pair are on assignment covering the flotilla and have been moving from boat to boat - but were last known to be on the MV Samoud.

    Both have satellite phones but Mr McGeough reported his GPS was not working, blaming the malfunction on Israeli attempts to jam communications.

    Mr McGeough's last audio transmission revealed Israeli forces were using the cloak of darkness to approach the aid vessels.

    "At 4.20[am, local time] we realised all communications on the boat were jammed," he reported.

    "4.22[am] - we see two zodiacs moving in, pressing through. Two more zodiacs. Now there are five of them astern of us.

    "There's white wakes on black water. Search lights on one of the cargo ships and from the Turkish ferry are picking up the zodiacs now."

    It is understood Israeli forces boarded the Mavi Marmara and opened fire after passengers attacked them with axes and knives.

    Israeli army radio reported 10 to 14 people were killed in the clash but it is not known if any Israeli commandos were among the dead.

    Four Israeli commandos have been wounded, apparently by gunfire.

    The Israel Defence Force says one of its weapons was stolen and used against its soldiers.

    An Israeli religious medical service, ZAKA, said seven people had been admitted to hospital in Haifa, Israel's main naval base, one of them in a serious condition.

    Turkey says it has "strongly protested" against Israel's military action.

    Most of the 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza rely on aid, blaming Israel for imposing restrictions on the amount and type of goods it allows into the territory.

    The United Nations and Western powers have urged Israel to ease its restrictions to prevent a humanitarian crisis. They have been urging Israel to let in concrete and steel to allow for post-war reconstruction.

    Israel denies there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying food, medicine and medical equipment are allowed in regularly.

    It says the restrictions are necessary to prevent weapons and materials that could be used to make them from reaching Hamas.

    The European Union has called for an inquiry into the deaths aboard the Gaza aid ships.

    In a statement, the EU's foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton expressed her regret for the loss of life and the violence.

    She also called for the immediate and unconditional opening of the crossing into Gaza to allow in humanitarian aid.

    Hamas has urged Arabs and Muslims to "rise up" in front of Israeli embassies around the world in protest against the raids.

    thanks steve. good to see paul mcgeough on the flotilla. i read him and enjoy doing so.


    weve got 1 last prime time news show and its the ABC which is the government station.
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  • Byrnzie
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    '19 Killed As Israel Storms Aid Convoy'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiLNUYLZ ... r_embedded
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    ABC australia started their telecast with this. 5 minutes the story ran for.

    it was said spain, greece and turkey have called in the israeli ambassadors for a chat. syria has called for an emergency meeting of the security council.

    ben knight middle east correspondent for the ABC was at ashdod and said there is no news about paul mcgeough or kate geraghty
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  • redrock
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    Governments are starting to speak up. Wonder when the US will. Also Greece has halted its joint exercise with Israel in protest.
  • catefrances
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    amazingly channel 9 one of the commercial channels that couldnt be bothered covering this story in their main bulletin just had it on one of their newsbreak adverts. which shows me the level of importance they place on it.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    redrock wrote:
    Governments are starting to speak up. Wonder when the US will. Also Greece has halted its joint exercise with Israel in protest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-Mk4bFz-U

    The EU, through its representative Catherine Ashton, demands that Gaza's borders must be opened immediately.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    redrock wrote:
    Governments are starting to speak up. Wonder when the US will. Also Greece has halted its joint exercise with Israel in protest.

    The American media will simply follow the Israeli line and claim that the IDF acted in self-defense. Expect nothing else. The U.S media is a joke.

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