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StoneAmentStoneAment Posts: 393
edited June 2010 in The Porch
...not as good as original Lukin. Sorry it had to be said.

I thought the fast version with the string quartet was mental last year. I want to hear that! Actually I've never seen it live at all so I don't care if its electric, acoustic, with a string quartertet whatever - I just want to be the fast/mental song we all know and love.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    StoneAment wrote:
    ...not as good as original Lukin. Sorry it had to be said.

    I thought the fast version with the string quartet was mental last year. I want to hear that! Actually I've never seen it live at all so I don't care if its electric, acoustic, with a string quartertet whatever - I just want to be the fast/mental song we all know and love.
    Seen it fast, fast with strings, and slow - maybe it's just me, but I couldn't take the song seriously until it was played slow style.
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  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    benjs wrote:
    StoneAment wrote:
    ...not as good as original Lukin. Sorry it had to be said.

    I thought the fast version with the string quartet was mental last year. I want to hear that! Actually I've never seen it live at all so I don't care if its electric, acoustic, with a string quartertet whatever - I just want to be the fast/mental song we all know and love.
    Seen it fast, fast with strings, and slow - maybe it's just me, but I couldn't take the song seriously until it was played slow style.

    +10000
    i always dug the original, but in a fun sort of way. never made much of it. plus ed always fucked the lyrics up and just growled his way through.

    the slow version however, is fucking AMAZING. i think it makes the lyrics so much more haunting. incredible. ten thousand times better than the original. and i've seen every different version live as well.
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  • DriftEdDriftEd Posts: 74
    Ive seen Lukin Slow, Fast with Strings, and saw Ed do it solo tour just him on acoustic..

    Slower is way mor haunting but fast is crazy and frenzied. Usually a great startedr for another rocker.
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    they're two totally different songs. fast lukin is great but slow lukin is mesmerizing.
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  • StoneAmentStoneAment Posts: 393
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    plus ed always fucked the lyrics up

    You could hear the lyrics?
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  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    StoneAment wrote:
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    plus ed always fucked the lyrics up

    You could hear the lyrics?
    There are lyrics?
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  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    Slow Lukin is one of my favs now...I wish it was always played that way....one of my favorite moments at MSG 2
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  • Mike's SideMike's Side Posts: 954
    Slow Lukin was such a nice suprise at MSG. I would prefer it over the original speed but fast is so much fun. The feeling I got when it was played is at the top of my list of Live PJ experiences. I had the same feeling when I heard the slow version of Betterman at the solo shows for the first time. I do prefer the original in that case tho.
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  • JoeTzuJoeTzu Posts: 88
    washedinblack91 wrote:
    they're two totally different songs. fast lukin is great but slow lukin is mesmerizing.

    Well typed.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Fast Lukin is just a crap song. A waste of a minute...This slow Lukin sounds intriguing...Better go check it out.

    edit: It's better but kinda cheesy sounding from the better vids I can find.
  • gremmiedotnetgremmiedotnet Posts: 345
    slow lukin', or SLUKIN' as we call is at gremmie.net is coming soon.
  • doomponydoompony Posts: 4,497
    i love slow lukin. i want them to record it and sell it to me.
  • ski4ski4 Posts: 261
    i am really digging it
    all of the you tube finds i have seen are sub par in sound though
    so much crowd noise. lol

    i can't wait till the boots of that hit
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  • jwagnerjwagner Posts: 435
    I like both...they each have their place and stand alone in their own right as songs. If it weren't for the lyrics, they'd be totally different songs. Now, the slow "Jeremy" they used to do, that doesn't even compare to the original, not to my ears anyway...ruined it, actually.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    jwagner wrote:
    I like both...they each have their place and stand alone in their own right as songs. If it weren't for the lyrics, they'd be totally different songs. Now, the slow "Jeremy" they used to do, that doesn't even compare to the original, not to my ears anyway...ruined it, actually.
    The one they did around '96? I LOVE that Jeremy!
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  • jwagnerjwagner Posts: 435
    benjs wrote:
    jwagner wrote:
    I like both...they each have their place and stand alone in their own right as songs. If it weren't for the lyrics, they'd be totally different songs. Now, the slow "Jeremy" they used to do, that doesn't even compare to the original, not to my ears anyway...ruined it, actually.
    The one they did around '96? I LOVE that Jeremy!

    Some people do, and that's cool, of course. I just didn't feel like it was a satisfying alternative to the original (I totally love the original, one of my alltime PJ favorites still). Seemed to lack any real momentum, like it was an unfinished reworking. Maybe I just heard a particularly loose version or something.
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  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    Lukin is one of those songs that Ed hasn't really mastered since the 00 tour. With this slow version, eddie is able to use his strengths in the song again. Love to hear eddie sing like he does here. I am glad they updated the song, but will miss fast lukin for sure. Always great to hear it at the shows.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    jwagner wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    jwagner wrote:
    I like both...they each have their place and stand alone in their own right as songs. If it weren't for the lyrics, they'd be totally different songs. Now, the slow "Jeremy" they used to do, that doesn't even compare to the original, not to my ears anyway...ruined it, actually.
    The one they did around '96? I LOVE that Jeremy!

    Some people do, and that's cool, of course. I just didn't feel like it was a satisfying alternative to the original (I totally love the original, one of my alltime PJ favorites still). Seemed to lack any real momentum, like it was an unfinished reworking. Maybe I just heard a particularly loose version or something.

    I agree. You don't take one of the greatest bass riffs ever written out of a song and expect it to improve.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    Niko80 wrote:
    Lukin is one of those songs that Ed hasn't really mastered since the 00 tour. With this slow version, eddie is able to use his strengths in the song again. Love to hear eddie sing like he does here. I am glad they updated the song, but will miss fast lukin for sure. Always great to hear it at the shows.
    I really doubt that the playing of Lukin II means it's the end of the band performing the original Lukin, but only time will tell!
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    StoneAment wrote:
    ...not as good as original Lukin. Sorry it had to be said.

    .

    i completly agree. hate it. Lukin is fast and angry. a good song to bounce around too....the new verision...lacks everything that lukin deserves.
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  • rolenrockrolenrock Posts: 312
    New flash: they arent going to STOP playing Lukin the way it was meant to be played.. they were just giving everyone something new since they did Lukin with strings the night before. It was refreshing to not hear fast Lukin after Just Breath with strings.. (I saw that on Night 2 of Philly as well)
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  • monkeewrenchmonkeewrench Posts: 946
    Slowly getting my videos from the MSG shows up. Here's another of this version.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CtRSc_QHhM
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,240
    Not that i didn't like the slow version but it dosn't have any "mezmorizing" lyrics in it, it's a plain old story about a crazy lady that shows up at his house after he cant find his keys, saying that he raped her and got a son out of it.
  • StoneAmentStoneAment Posts: 393
    rolenrock wrote:
    New flash: they arent going to STOP playing Lukin the way it was meant to be played

    I hope you're right! More importantly I hope if they crack out Lukin at a show I'm at (not seen it yet) it's the fast version!
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  • in eds treein eds tree Posts: 539
    slukin.

    i love it.

    i for one am a fan.
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  • StoneAmentStoneAment Posts: 393
    DewieCox wrote:
    Now, the slow "Jeremy" they used to do, that doesn't even compare to the original, not to my ears anyway...ruined it, actually.
    jwagner wrote:
    I just didn't feel like it was a satisfying alternative to the original (I totally love the original, one of my alltime PJ favorites still). Seemed to lack any real momentum, like it was an unfinished reworking. Maybe I just heard a particularly loose version or something.
    jwagner wrote:
    I agree. You don't take one of the greatest bass riffs ever written out of a song and expect it to improve.

    :thumbup: Original Jeremy is the only Jeremy. The bass is immense! Just a classic. If it ain't broke don't break it!
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,672
    RiotZact wrote:
    Not that i didn't like the slow version but it dosn't have any "mezmorizing" lyrics in it, it's a plain old story about a crazy lady that shows up at his house after he cant find his keys, saying that he raped her and got a son out of it.

    Drive down the street, can't find the keys to my own fucking home
    I take a walk, so I can curse my ass for being dumb
    I make a right after the arches, stinking grease and bone
    Stop at the supermarket, people stare like I'm a dog

    I'm goin' to Lukin's...
    I got a spot at Lukin's...
    I knock the door at Lukin's...
    Open the fridge, now I know life is worth

    I find the key, but I return to find an open door
    Some fucking freak who claims I fathered, by rape, her own son
    I find my wife, I call the cops, this day's work's never done
    The last I heard the freak was purchasing a fucking gun
  • samjamsamjam Posts: 9,283
    Can't stop watching the YouTube videos of this, and it was even better to be in the audience at MSG2 when it was played! It took me up about until the word 'supermarket' to realize what was being played- then I freaked!
    Love this version!
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,240
    MayDay10 wrote:
    RiotZact wrote:
    Not that i didn't like the slow version but it dosn't have any "mezmorizing" lyrics in it, it's a plain old story about a crazy lady that shows up at his house after he cant find his keys, saying that he raped her and got a son out of it.

    Drive down the street, can't find the keys to my own fucking home
    I take a walk, so I can curse my ass for being dumb
    I make a right after the arches, stinking grease and bone
    Stop at the supermarket, people stare like I'm a dog

    I'm goin' to Lukin's...
    I got a spot at Lukin's...
    I knock the door at Lukin's...
    Open the fridge, now I know life is worth

    I find the key, but I return to find an open door
    Some fucking freak who claims I fathered, by rape, her own son
    I find my wife, I call the cops, this day's work's never done
    The last I heard the freak was purchasing a fucking gun

    Yeah I love the fast version and the slow is good to but I don't see how people are saying that the lyrics are giving them goosbumps and that there deep touching lyrics, and if they were they still would be fast.
  • Yellow LedbellyYellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    Holy Crap!!! It's on PJ Radio now....that is totally bad ass dude! Very cool
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