Home› The Porch

PJ History - Where does MSG 1 and 2 Rank?

ontheroadontheroad Posts: 257
edited May 2010 in The Porch
Obviously they've had some "epic" and "historic" shows thru their 20 year history as a band. Where do you think this 2 night run ranks? The 2006 Gorge shows, the three shows in Mansfield in 2003 and the run of Spectrum shows last year come to mind. As many have already written, the energy and emotion of the band and audience during MSG 1 and MSG 2 were off the charts. I'm not sure they topped MSG 1 2003, but together they may have been better than MSG 1 and MSG 2 in 2003.

Looking at the setlists this band just played 67 songs over two days and 61 different songs (and some incredibly deep and rare tracks too). Can't think of another band who would even attempt this, never mind play each version incredibly well. What a band!
"I remember when you sang that song about today, now it's tomorrow and everything has changed." - Bu$hleaguer
Post edited by Unknown User on
«1

Comments

  • long road walkerlong road walker Posts: 352
    MSG 2 is definitely up there as one of the top, top shows if not the best, obviously there is no clear cut answer but it def is consideration

    MSG2 98 also, all the ones you mentioned , MSG 1 in 03 tho i think this one was better.
    "no more crowbars to my head"
  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    These were my first two shows at the Garden and my 28th and 29th shows overall. For me Friday night was on another level, the Gorge 05 was fun with the acoustic preset but these Garden shows had an intensity unmatched. The 2nd show was tremendous from the first note of Corduroy. We traveled all the way from Northern California in hopes of catching this kind of special show and Friday night delivered in a huge way. In the end I've been to 29 and heard pretty much every show ever on bootlegs and Friday night stands up there with any of them. I'd jump on a plane right now and travel 3,000 again if I knew I could catch a show of that caliber. It was a once in a lifetime type show.
    06/22/95, 11/04/95, 11/15/97, 07/16/98, 10/30/99, 10/30/00, 10/31/00, 10/20/01, 10/21/01, 12/08/02, 06/01/03, 06/06/03, 10/25/03, 10/26/03, 09/28/04, 03/18/05, 09/01/05, 07/15/06, 07/16/06, 07/18/06, 07/22/06, 07/23/06, 10/21/06, 10/22/06, 08/28/09, 09/21/09, 09/22/09, 05/20/10, 05/21/10, 10/24/10, 11/26/13, 12/06/13, 06/28/14, 10/26/14, 07/10/18, 08/10/18, 10/02/21, 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,816
    msg2 ranks as the best show of the 2010 tour
    you really cant compare 98, 03, or 08 to 2010
    each was different yet great.

    msg2 this year was better than 08 but not as good as 98, and just as good as 03 IMHO
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    Get_Right wrote:
    msg2 ranks as the best show of the 2010 tour
    you really cant compare 98, 03, or 08 to 2010
    each was different yet great.

    msg2 this year was better than 08 but not as good as 98, and just as good as 03 IMHO
    Randall's Island was pretty insane, too.
    TRANSPLANTS SAVE LIVES
    www.UNOS.org
    Donate Organs and Save a Life
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    edited May 2010
    This is like those "Top 100 songs of the 2000s" or "50 best drummers of ALL TIME" lists that are always being discussed.

    There is no concrete ranking ... to say there is, is silly.

    These shows, or more specifically, MSG 2 was an amazingly special show ... I think everyone can agree on that.

    To go beyond that, to try and put a "ranking" on it, is a fool's errand.
    Post edited by jimed14 on
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Wrongly AccusedWrongly Accused Posts: 334
    Was all 3 Gorge's, 5 MSG's, Hawaii, 10th Anniversary in Vegas, Fonda in LA.... MSG 5/21/10 ranks the best for me with all things considered... Band, Songs, Crowd, Atmosphere all taken into consideration.... #1 for me in my opinion...
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Get_Right wrote:
    msg2 ranks as the best show of the 2010 tour
    Even this is debatable...Boston was right there if not a little better.

    I guess thats why ranking is pointless, but still - MSG2 was a great show.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,816
    HollisBrown wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    msg2 ranks as the best show of the 2010 tour
    you really cant compare 98, 03, or 08 to 2010
    each was different yet great.

    msg2 this year was better than 08 but not as good as 98, and just as good as 03 IMHO
    Randall's Island was pretty insane, too.
    yep tops in my book

    but I dont compare that to the MSG shows
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,928
    jimed14 wrote:

    To go beyond that, to try and put a "ranking" on it, is a fool's errand.
    "a fool's errand".....I'm gonna have to remember that phrase. :thumbup:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Randalls island 2 96
    Msg 2 98
    Philly 4 09
    Mansfield 3 03
    Soldier field 95
    Atlanta 94
    Seattle 2 00
    Gorge 06
    Hawaii 06
    Msg 2 10
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Posts: 4,097
    metsfan wrote:
    Randalls island 2 96
    Msg 2 98
    Philly 4 09
    Mansfield 3 03
    Soldier field 95
    Atlanta 94
    Seattle 2 00
    Gorge 06
    Hawaii 06
    Msg 2 10
    There was a show at this little club in Chicago in 2007 that has to rank somewhere in the top 10. And Philly 4 wasn't even the best Philly show in '09 :D
    1996: Toronto 1998: Barrie 2000: Saratoga Springs 2003: Buffalo, Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto 2006: Toronto x2, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Gorge #1 2007: London, Dusseldorf, Vic, Lolla 2008: WPB, Tampa, DC, MSG x2, Hartford, Boston x2, Beacon 2009: Toronto, Chicago x2, Seattle x2, LA #3&4, San Diego, Philly x4 2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford 2011: Montreal, Toronto x2, Hamilton 2012: Missoula 2013: London, Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, Dallas, OKC
  • Dynamo D2DDynamo D2D Posts: 109
    I agree Randall's Island both nights...but definitely night 2 is their best.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,838
    Philly '05 needs to be on the list. To say that show doesn't rank close to MSG shows is just a biased opinion.
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    way behind the Vic
  • TyTy Posts: 1,007
    No, listening to the boots, I like MSG2 in '03 best, because Ed seems angry and really into it!
    PJ - Sydney 1998; Sydney 2003; Sydney, Melbourne, Newcastle 2006; Melbourne, Sydney 2009; Gold Coast, Melbourne, Sydney 2014.
    EV - Canberra, Newcastle, Sydney 2011; Sydney 2014.
  • long road walkerlong road walker Posts: 352
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Philly '05 needs to be on the list. To say that show doesn't rank close to MSG shows is just a biased opinion.


    went to both, been to 30 shows, Wachovia 05 was great, def a top show, still not close to MSG 2 on friday night
    "no more crowbars to my head"
  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    ontheroad wrote:
    Obviously they've had some "epic" and "historic" shows thru their 20 year history as a band. Where do you think this 2 night run ranks? The 2006 Gorge shows, the three shows in Mansfield in 2003 and the run of Spectrum shows last year come to mind. As many have already written, the energy and emotion of the band and audience during MSG 1 and MSG 2 were off the charts. I'm not sure they topped MSG 1 2003, but together they may have been better than MSG 1 and MSG 2 in 2003.

    Looking at the setlists this band just played 67 songs over two days and 61 different songs (and some incredibly deep and rare tracks too). Can't think of another band who would even attempt this, never mind play each version incredibly well. What a band!

    MSG shows all other venues how its done. The energy cant be topped. The Spectrum was great but while people were exxxcited about the boys, you got a whole bunch of big loser guys and trash talking chicks starting fights over sports! wtf! And the gorge wins for scenery. Overall, in MY opinion MSG is the ruler. :D
    ~~~~~~ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME~~~~~~
    Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
    EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!

    "Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95

    It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
  • mrpink90mrpink90 Posts: 415
    MSG 1 in 2003 is still the best show ive ever been to
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    Behind boston and newark for sure.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,672
    I would rank MSG II higher than the 4 Phillys.

    I would still say Buffalo 2003 is my favorite
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RC153010 wrote:
    Behind boston and newark for sure.
    yeah
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    behind Philly one also. However, philly 4 had the best encores
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Msg 2 2010 ranks as my 3rd favorite out of my 16 shows. Philly 3 and Philly 4 then Msg 2 followed by Wachovia 05 and Philly 1,would be my top 5 shows.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Msg 2 2010 ranks as my 3rd favorite out of my 16 shows. Philly 3 and Philly 4 then Msg 2 followed by Wachovia 05 and Philly 1,would be my top 5 shows.


    That's not what you said right after the concert

    Me: what do you think of it
    Jamminpearls: greatest concert I've ever been to
    Me: better then philly 3 and 4
    Jamminpearls: blows away both of them and you know much I love philly 3. Crowd and band were amazing


    Guess someone had to many miller lights after da diner
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • MoonTurtleMoonTurtle Posts: 752
    top two for 2010
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    metsfan wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Msg 2 2010 ranks as my 3rd favorite out of my 16 shows. Philly 3 and Philly 4 then Msg 2 followed by Wachovia 05 and Philly 1,would be my top 5 shows.


    That's not what you said right after the concert

    Me: what do you think of it
    Jamminpearls: greatest concert I've ever been to
    Me: better then philly 3 and 4
    Jamminpearls: blows away both of them and you know much I love philly 3. Crowd and band were amazing


    Guess someone had to many miller lights after da diner
    your crazy i said the crowd was better,not the shows. I also said that it was def a top 3 show and was uo to par with philly 4. Philly 3 is in a league by its own.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Philly '05 needs to be on the list. To say that show doesn't rank close to MSG shows is just a biased opinion.
    says the man from philly

    Talk about bout bias

    Pot meet kettle
    BeerBaron wrote:
    There was a show at this little club in Chicago in 2007 that has to rank somewhere in the top 10. And Philly 4 wasn't even the best Philly show in '09 :D
    chicago HOB 05 was way better then chicago 07 vic theater. Chicago 07 is in the top 15. Def not better then DC 95 or orpium(sp) 94.

    You can't make a show a top 10 just cause of a setlist. If you do that then beacon theater 08 or showbox 02 or easy street 05 or toledo 04 would make the top 10 lol.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,148
    RC153010 wrote:
    Behind boston and newark for sure.

    Behind Newark? Are you serious? Newark was nowhere near as good as MSG 2.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,148
    metsfan wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Philly '05 needs to be on the list. To say that show doesn't rank close to MSG shows is just a biased opinion.
    says the man from philly

    Talk about bout bias

    Pot meet kettle
    BeerBaron wrote:
    There was a show at this little club in Chicago in 2007 that has to rank somewhere in the top 10. And Philly 4 wasn't even the best Philly show in '09 :D
    chicago HOB 05 was way better then chicago 07 vic theater. Chicago 07 is in the top 15. Def not better then DC 95 or orpium(sp) 94.

    You can't make a show a top 10 just cause of a setlist. If you do that then beacon theater 08 or showbox 02 or easy street 05 or toledo 04 would make the top 10 lol.

    While I enjoyed the Beacon show I don't see how the setlist can get it anywhere near the top 10 shows.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
  • over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    My list of shows is

    ER II '06
    Camden 1 & 2 08
    Washington 08
    MSG 1 & 2 08
    Philly 1, 2, 3, 4 09
    Newark 10
    MSG 1 & 2 10

    ...Philly 3 & 4, and MSG 2 are in their own league, and at this moment, I'd say MSG 2 was the best show I've been to.

    Although my favorite experience was Philly 2, 2nd row Stone side, never thought I'd see the band from there.
    Yield!

    3 Decibels Doubles the Volume

    2006
Sign In or Register to comment.