The downside of resurrected rarities

Backspacer_Backer

As a "collector" of hearing rarities played live like most of us diehards, the downside is when you have a true rarity that you think you may never see played again, and now they've pulled it back out and have put it in a somewhat regular rotation, it kind of ruins it for those of us who heard it before it was buried.

Example: Push me, Pull me. I was at the show in DC in 1998, which was the third time they played it, and the last since 1998 (up until Philly last year). now, they've played it twice on this tour. purely selfish, i realize, but it's not quite as much of a rarity now. it is an amazing song to hear live, even though I really didn't care for it until i heard it live.

helplessdancer

rarities are over rated

i go see this band basically cause their main, rotating, tour play list, is so f'n awesome

and, the new songs(of course)

so i guess i don't like "collecting" rare songs. the song i really wanted to hear on this last tour was a song they have been playing in rotation, but i've never seen yet

the real me blew me away. better than fatal, for me. go figure :?

Feint

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

Backspacer_Backer

Feint wrote:

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

based on my point, push me pull me is a perfect example. completely buried for over 11 yrs, only played 3 times, now that number has doubled in less than 8 months. it is awesome live, and i liked saying that I heard it the last time it was ever played. plus, even though it's only been played 6 times total now, it seems they've decided to put it back in rotation.

Cob

I saw the Grateful Dead in Feb. 1991 in Oakland, they played New Speedway Boogie to close the first set, it hadn't been played since 1970 :shock: 21 years and they busted it out, they started playing it through out 1991, I was just glad I got to see it when they played it for the first time in 21 years.

I was glad to see Alone in Columbus this month, I know they played it again, but it's not played that often and I enjoyed seeing it. Just be glad they play some what rare songs still, a lot of bands just don't do that, they play the same boring ass set every night. I was also very happy to hear No Way in Seattle last September.

mickeyrat

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

Feint wrote:

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

based on my point, push me pull me is a perfect example. completely buried for over 11 yrs, only played 3 times, now that number has doubled in less than 8 months. it is awesome live, and i liked saying that I heard it the last time it was ever played. plus, even though it's only been played 6 times total now, it seems they've decided to put it back in rotation.

speechless. just have to let this go. YOU people kill me.

mickeyrat

mickeyrat wrote:

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

Feint wrote:

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

based on my point, push me pull me is a perfect example. completely buried for over 11 yrs, only played 3 times, now that number has doubled in less than 8 months. it is awesome live, and i liked saying that I heard it the last time it was ever played. plus, even though it's only been played 6 times total now, it seems they've decided to put it back in rotation.

so three times at first was "in rotation"












speechless. just have to let this go. YOU people kill me.

Evacuation Rules

The downside of rarities for me is when they butcher them. It's not fun hearing a rare song when half the band doesn't know how it goes.

youngster

I got to see Ain't Talkin Bout Love live in Hartford this year. No one outside that show can say the same. So nanny nanny poo poo to all of you. I am a bigger fan than the rest of you.







:roll: :roll:

StoneVedder_10

youngster wrote:

I got to see Ain't Talkin Bout Love live in Hartford this year. No one outside that show can say the same. So nanny nanny poo poo to all of you. I am a bigger fan than the rest of you.







:roll: :roll:

OTOTO :thumbup:

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

The downside is when they break out Sweet Lew.

SVRDhand13

Yea it sucks that they played Sweet Lew again since Philly.

Oh wait, I saw the second performance too.

My3rdEye

MrSmith wrote:

The downside is when they break out Sweet Lew.

I was there tonight and as good as that show was... you're right. Sweet Lew is a fuckin' train wreck. Not sure why anyone would want to hear it... aside from saying " I heard Sweet Lew live".

Horrible song..

I love "Push Me, Pull Me" though. Always have.

WM31482

mickeyrat wrote:

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

Feint wrote:

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

based on my point, push me pull me is a perfect example. completely buried for over 11 yrs, only played 3 times, now that number has doubled in less than 8 months. it is awesome live, and i liked saying that I heard it the last time it was ever played. plus, even though it's only been played 6 times total now, it seems they've decided to put it back in rotation.

speechless. just have to let this go. YOU people kill me.

are you guys really complaing that you got to hear too many rare songs live??

good news messenger

My3rdEye wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

The downside is when they break out Sweet Lew.

I was there tonight and as good as that show was... you're right. Sweet Lew is a fuckin' train wreck. Not sure why anyone would want to hear it... aside from saying " I heard Sweet Lew live".

Horrible song..

I love "Push Me, Pull Me" though. Always have.

Not a big fan of sweet lew or push me, pull me (haven't seen either live).

I've only heard a few rare covers-Kick out the jams, wanna be a rock n roll star?
not much out of their own catalog- I would love to hear some of the rarities off of lost dogs like hold on, drifting,alone, fatal, hard to imagine.

And of course otherside(would be awesome to hear this the first time they played it, right?) If I was at this show, I wouldn't give a shit if they played it later. I would hope to be able to catch it again.

I want to hear these because I like them. I don't want to hear rarities that I don't care for.
Sometimes I wonder if people want to see the rarities out of principle. To be able to say " I've seen

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live"
I understand it I guess, but PJ has underrated songs IMO that aren't played very much.
Example- I'd like to see Light Years (not played too often) before the rarities I don't like.

good news messenger

good news messenger wrote:

My3rdEye wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

The downside is when they break out Sweet Lew.

I was there tonight and as good as that show was... you're right. Sweet Lew is a fuckin' train wreck. Not sure why anyone would want to hear it... aside from saying " I heard Sweet Lew live".

Horrible song..

I love "Push Me, Pull Me" though. Always have.

Not a big fan of sweet lew or push me, pull me (haven't seen either live).

I've only heard a few rare covers-Kick out the jams, wanna be a rock n roll star?
not much out of their own catalog- I would love to hear some of the rarities off of lost dogs like hold on, drifting,alone, fatal, hard to imagine.

And of course otherside(would be awesome to hear this the first time they played it, right?) If I was at this show, I wouldn't give a shit if they played it later. I would hope to be able to catch it again.

I want to hear these because I like them. I don't want to hear rarities that I don't care for.
Sometimes I wonder if people want to see the rarities out of principle. To be able to say " I've seen

---

live"
I understand it I guess, but PJ has underrated songs IMO that aren't played very much.
Example- I'd like to see Light Years (not played too often) before the rarities I don't like.

Oh sorry- I forgot Dirty Frank.

ZiggyStar

Sounds like a whole lot of wank to me...

WM31482

ZiggyStar wrote:

Sounds like whole lot of wank to me...

yeah seriously-
i hope i hear all my favorite songs as many times as i go
(and i really couldn't care less what the total of that is)

StoneAment

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

it kind of ruins it for those of us who heard it before it was buried

Why, because you get to hear it again? It was still a rarity when you heard it. It doesn't change the satisfaction you got when you heard it kick in the first time.

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

purely selfish

Yup. Some of us haven't been listening to pearl jam since 92, and some of us can;t afford to go to every tour (I don't think americans realise how much effort it is to see PJ on a regular basis for those outside North america) therefore having our favourite songs in heavy rotation is a good thing. I honestly don't care how rare a song is played. To me it's rarity is defined by how many times I've seen it. Nothingman, Nothing as it Seems and Jeremy are far from being rarities but in the shows i've been to (an i've racked up a few in the 3 years i've been listening to pearl jam) I've never heard them and therefore they're rare to me and I will still go fucking ape shit when one of them hits at I show I'm at. Saying that, Sleight of Hand was special in Manchester last year, there's a song I never thought I'd hear live. I hope everyone else gets to at some point - because I'm not a selfish twat

SoonForgotten2

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

Feint wrote:

I think "Push Me, Pull Me" is a bad example. Even considering they've played it twice on this tour, it's still only been played 6 times. I have to say, it is WAY better live than on the album.

based on my point, push me pull me is a perfect example. completely buried for over 11 yrs, only played 3 times, now that number has doubled in less than 8 months. it is awesome live, and i liked saying that I heard it the last time it was ever played. plus, even though it's only been played 6 times total now, it seems they've decided to put it back in rotation.

Wow.

Get over it.

good news messenger

StoneAment wrote:

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

it kind of ruins it for those of us who heard it before it was buried

Why, because you get to hear it again? It was still a rarity when you heard it. It doesn't change the satisfaction you got when you heard it kick in the first time.

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

purely selfish

Yup. Some of us haven't been listening to pearl jam since 92, and some of us can;t afford to go to every tour (I don't think americans realise how much effort it is to see PJ on a regular basis for those outside North america) therefore having our favourite songs in heavy rotation is a good thing. I honestly don't care how rare a song is played. To me it's rarity is defined by how many times I've seen it. Nothingman, Nothing as it Seems and Jeremy are far from being rarities but in the shows i've been to (an i've racked up a few in the 3 years i've been listening to pearl jam) I've never heard them and therefore they're rare to me and I will still go fucking ape shit when one of them hits at I show I'm at. Saying that, Sleight of Hand was special in Manchester last year, there's a song I never thought I'd hear live. I hope everyone else gets to at some point - because I'm not a selfish twat

Great point StoneAment. I've been fortunate enough to catch only 2 shows and I heard nothing man at Jazz Fest. I was ecstatic. I love that song. Haven't seen the other two. I would love to hear light years, dissident, or elderly woman. I know lots of people have heard elderly woman many times, but I haven't heard it once. Rare to me.