Ushers with setlists at MSG

StuffnJunk

i'm back...this thread is like a car wreck, i can't look away

ok, its a slight bummer to get tipped off about the setlist...but its not an OUTRAGE...and i still don't get where it says anywhere in the world that a setlist is to remain a mystery, kept under lock and key with armed guards protecting it

and to imply that ushers with UNION jobs (whose worlds don't revolve around PJ and their setlists, believe it or not) would or should be FIRED for breaking a rule that ISN'T EVEN A RULE anywhere in the world other than on the PJ Message Pit, that is what is so ludicrous i can't freakin stand it

anyhow, i have a Pearl jam show to look forward to, i must clear my mind of negative thoughts

Shawn Smith Collective

Seems like the issue is really with some of the fans just not being courteous to those that don't want to know the setlists. I can appreciate that some people don't want to know, while others do...but keep it to yourself because, like someone mentioned earlier, it'd be like ruining the end of a movie for some people. I just don't see this being so much about the band, venue or ushers...

BinauralJam

i've never seen this, but i don't think it would bother me.

drsluggo

One other note...

If you think the ushers should be fired... the soundboard in the back of the floor almost always has the setlist up before the show. So if you walk by and look over you can see it.

So if you think ushers should be fired, so should part of their crew since its just sitting up for hours.

Jack_C_Gregory

I can understand peoples disdain for having the setlist spoiled for them. I mean, if you were at the movies seeing "The Sixth Sense" you wouldn't want one of the ticket takers saying, "Enjoy the movie, and by the way, Bruce Willis character is a ghost the whole time." On the flip side, I don't think an MSG usher should be fired for such an offense.

JimmyV

This is not something anyone should be fired for.

Eliot Rosewater

demetrios wrote:

StuffnJunk wrote:

msg is much more professional, so ushers get setlists, apparently...no big deal

I'm surprised now those ushers don't just come to the boards or to their facebook/twitter accounts during their break & just post what will be played tonight under a fake account or something.

I think you are overestimating them. They get paid to stand there for three or four hours and hold a flashlight for crying out loud. They're not necessarily facebook savy.

DewieCox

If people don't wanna know the setlist, that's their right.

I really don't think the band would be down with security spillin the beans. I don't think any band would be happy to find that out.

If people complained about findin out and security kept tellin people, they should be fired. It's not in their job description to tell people what's gettin played.

If I'm gonna pay $75 a ticket, I want a PJ show and a huge part of that is not knowing what's next.

Pushin Forward Back

another reason why NYC and MSG suck !

ReachingForThinAir

WeaponX655321 wrote:

I can understand peoples disdain for having the setlist spoiled for them. I mean, if you were at the movies seeing "The Sixth Sense" you wouldn't want one of the ticket takers saying, "Enjoy the movie, and by the way, Bruce Willis character is a ghost the whole time." On the flip side, I don't think an MSG usher should be fired for such an offense.

WTF?!?!?

Thanks a lot. I rented that for tonight. MIght as well watch the setlist thread. Unless somebody has a copy of the setlist too. Last night there were some hints given and such. Not cool.

nothingman4

ReachingForThinAir wrote:

WeaponX655321 wrote:

I can understand peoples disdain for having the setlist spoiled for them. I mean, if you were at the movies seeing "The Sixth Sense" you wouldn't want one of the ticket takers saying, "Enjoy the movie, and by the way, Bruce Willis character is a ghost the whole time." On the flip side, I don't think an MSG usher should be fired for such an offense.

WTF?!?!?

Thanks a lot. I rented that for tonight. MIght as well watch the setlist thread. Unless somebody has a copy of the setlist too. Last night there were some hints given and such. Not cool.

catscheller

I have to (shamefully) admit that I would be one of those people who would want to see the setlist for 2 reasons: 1) to know when would be a good time to hit the bathroom if absolutely necessary (yes, I know many of you would say that there is no such thing as a "time to hit the bathroom" PJ song, but if I'm about to pee my pants, I'd like to know that a song I just think is ok is coming up rather than one of my favorites) and 2) to know ahead of time if that one song I've been dying to hear them play will be played. If it's not, as is usually my luck, I could better enjoy the rest of the show without wondering, "will it be next? will it be after this song? maybe????"

However, what I would like to know is any practical reason why ushers would need a setlist in the first place.

WashMyLove

OMG! I did see that last night. The security guy, he was tough in not allowing people jam themselves into other peoples rows when they didn't belong there. I am thankful. But I did notice him with a setlist before the show started! I saw people ask him about it but I just ignored it. How come is hard for us fans to get the setlist after the show ends and these security people have it before the show even starts???!!!?? :evil:

Jack_C_Gregory

nothingman4 wrote:

ReachingForThinAir wrote:

WeaponX655321 wrote:

I can understand peoples disdain for having the setlist spoiled for them. I mean, if you were at the movies seeing "The Sixth Sense" you wouldn't want one of the ticket takers saying, "Enjoy the movie, and by the way, Bruce Willis character is a ghost the whole time." On the flip side, I don't think an MSG usher should be fired for such an offense.

WTF?!?!?

Thanks a lot. I rented that for tonight. MIght as well watch the setlist thread. Unless somebody has a copy of the setlist too. Last night there were some hints given and such. Not cool.

Whoops...

Gardenparty

Somebody should make up some fakes and distribute them tonight.

That would be rad!

Indifference71

I'd be pretty pissed if people told me what songs were coming. I love that split second of anticipation after they finish one song and before another one starts.

I just dont understand why the ushers would need setlists in the first place...doesnt make much sense to me.

Wolf At Bay

jamburger wrote:

Wolf At Bay wrote:

First of all: why?
Second: They need to keep that shit to themselves. I disliked over hearing people who snagged a setlist from an usher blab about what songs they were gonna play.

Why not blame those overzealous fans then? The usher probably thought he/she was being a nice guy/gal giving the setlist to whomever asked. Why didn't you ask the people you overheard not to spoil your fun?

I agree with you actually. Its really more the fans' fault. And other people were in fact telling them not to spoil it, so I felt no need to join the conversation, it would have just been one more distraction.

However, I still thought it was strange for the ushers to have setlists at all. I get that maybe it helps them plan for the end of the show when people start leaving, but on the other hand, turning on the house lights during the last song, as Pearl Jam always does, is a pretty good cue, and having the whole setlist seems unnecessary for this this kind of planning.

Wolf At Bay

StuffnJunk wrote:

i'm back...this thread is like a car wreck, i can't look away

ok, its a slight bummer to get tipped off about the setlist...but its not an OUTRAGE...and i still don't get where it says anywhere in the world that a setlist is to remain a mystery, kept under lock and key with armed guards protecting it

and to imply that ushers with UNION jobs (whose worlds don't revolve around PJ and their setlists, believe it or not) would or should be FIRED for breaking a rule that ISN'T EVEN A RULE anywhere in the world other than on the PJ Message Pit, that is what is so ludicrous i can't freakin stand it

anyhow, i have a Pearl jam show to look forward to, i must clear my mind of negative thoughts

As the person who started this thread, I just want to be clear that I don't want anyone fired. I have mixed feelings about the ushers passing them out, but I think my main point is to question why they have them at all and perhaps implore fellow fans to just be more discreet when they get there hands on one of these.

Fighting Hellfish

nevermind

good news messenger

Indifference71 wrote:

I'd be pretty pissed if people told me what songs were coming. I love that split second of anticipation after they finish one song and before another one starts.

I just dont understand why the ushers would need setlists in the first place...doesnt make much sense to me.

I agree 110%. I love that mixed ball of emotions-anticipation, excitement, happiness, relief-all in a matter of seconds. I've been to some other big shows with a leaked setlist-tool and system of a down- and it fucks it up for me. Just something not right-you know instantly if you have anything to look forward to, maybe lots of disappointment, and it really sucks when you know there is no chance of a certain song being played, or chance of an encore.
Granted-not knowing the setlist will not get that one song played, but at least you can have the feelings of anticipation and hope that they will.