Fair enough. If I was that teacher I'd have gone along with the kids example and used it to better explain/clarify the point I was trying to make re:physics, though I'd also have lightened the tone a bit by then asking the student if he himself was planning to bump off the President, and waited for his response. If it turned out he wasn't being at all serious then that would have been made apparent. If, on the other hand, the student actually did harbour some sort of dislike of Obama to the point where he actually had some unhealthy interest in the subject of his assassination, then I'd have taken him to account over it.
Anyway, from the way the teacher replied my guess is that he already knew that the students comment wasn't made with any sort of seriousness. The whole thing just reeks of over-sensitivity, political correctness, and media hyped bullshit.[/quote]
hey byrnzie
you assume that the teacher knew the student's comment wasn't serious.
i assume the teacher is, at some level, a racist.
what's the difference?
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hey byrnzie
you assume that the teacher knew the student's comment wasn't serious.
i assume the teacher is, at some level, a racist.
what's the difference?
The difference is that I base my assumption on what was actually said, whereas you're assumption is based on a prejudice you have against southerners.
Edit: Though I could be wrong. Maybe there's more to this story and maybe he is a racist. I'm just basing my opinion on what was recorded in the above news article.
hey byrnzie
you assume that the teacher knew the student's comment wasn't serious.
i assume the teacher is, at some level, a racist.
what's the difference?
The difference is that I base my assumption on what was actually said, whereas you're assumption is based on a prejudice you have against southerners.
Edit: Though I could be wrong. Maybe there's more to this story and maybe he is a racist. I'm just basing my opinion on what was recorded in the above news article.
b
i hate hate
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in this case, yes, it hurt the teacher being in alabama.
but i don't have a prejudice against southerners.
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So, personally, I think using an assassination attempt to teach physics could be a good thing. That is, of course, if you are analyzing HISTORICAL assassination attempts.
I think it was pretty poor judgment of the teacher to use the example, even if a student mentioned it. Now, do I think it should result in the teacher being fired? Well, that's where motivation comes into play for me. If it was as innocent as using a student's example to teach, then no firing, but the lack of good judgment should be noted in case any future issues arise.
my point is you are assuming the comment was malicious and then extrapolating that to talk about the entire state of alabama. And since none of us were there, byrnzie is right in saying that this isn't as big of a deal as the media made it seem. If it as part of the culture than how on earth did this make it to the national media. If everyone there accepted this type of thing how did it get out? Probably because it was told to a few people and then someone took it out of context and put it on the news.
edit:
how on earth did you come to that conclusion by the way... at first i was a little pissed but as I read your reply to what I wrote again I just have to ask... how the fuck did you come up with that? what about what I wrote led you to believe that I think african americans are invisible? I am seriously interested. no bs, I really want to know. Did I mention that I want to know how you came up with that?
first you asked "how on earth did this make it to the national media".
like it was a classroom full of white obama hater's, laughing at the kid's AND the teacher's joke.
that is why i said there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to.
i don't know who said "everyone there accecpted this type of thing"
but with all you wrote, you never mentioned someone in that class who was offended by white people talking about shooting a black man like it was nothing.
and even though you bitch about the media coverage, like they are to blame, i've read in other posts how you love foxnews.
that tells me alot about you.
please oh pretty please tell me where I wrote how much I love fox news. And yes, media coverage in our country is a HUGE problem. very rarely do we ever get an actually unbiased news story from any source. I didn't really care that they were black or white, my point was that not everyone in alabama was a racist.
and quit with phrases like "there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to." It makes me think you are saying that I want all african american people to keep there mouth shut and I do not appreciate it.
But again, please show me where I pointed out in any post how much I love fox news.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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- Joe Rogan
please oh pretty please tell me where I wrote how much I love fox news. And yes, media coverage in our country is a HUGE problem. very rarely do we ever get an actually unbiased news story from any source. I didn't really care that they were black or white, my point was that not everyone in alabama was a racist.
and quit with phrases like "there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to." It makes me think you are saying that I want all african american people to keep there mouth shut and I do not appreciate it.
But again, please show me where I pointed out in any post how much I love fox news.[/quote]
Re: More states to introduce anti-illegal immigration laws
by mikepegg44 » 21 May 2010 18:39
Rhode Island state Rep. Peter Palumbo has filed a bill that looks nearly identical to Arizona's. It requires law enforcement to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally -- provided they don't stop someone on that basis alone. The proposal empowers police to turn over illegal immigrants to federal custody and also bars local jurisdictions from limiting immigration enforcement. Several other provisions in the bill are based on Arizona's law.
Palumbo, a Democrat, told Fox News that Arizona residents were "merely trying to protect themselves" and that the Rhode Island bill could help the state save millions every year.
why would you watch or read fox news?
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please oh pretty please tell me where I wrote how much I love fox news. And yes, media coverage in our country is a HUGE problem. very rarely do we ever get an actually unbiased news story from any source. I didn't really care that they were black or white, my point was that not everyone in alabama was a racist.
and quit with phrases like "there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to." It makes me think you are saying that I want all african american people to keep there mouth shut and I do not appreciate it.
But again, please show me where I pointed out in any post how much I love fox news.
Re: More states to introduce anti-illegal immigration laws
by mikepegg44 » 21 May 2010 18:39
Rhode Island state Rep. Peter Palumbo has filed a bill that looks nearly identical to Arizona's. It requires law enforcement to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally -- provided they don't stop someone on that basis alone. The proposal empowers police to turn over illegal immigrants to federal custody and also bars local jurisdictions from limiting immigration enforcement. Several other provisions in the bill are based on Arizona's law.
Palumbo, a Democrat, told Fox News that Arizona residents were "merely trying to protect themselves" and that the Rhode Island bill could help the state save millions every year.
why would you watch or read fox news?
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lol, so asking you why you wouldn't watch or read anything from fox news means I love it? It makes me nervous that someone would completely discount all information coming from a source because of the an ideological disagreement. If that is how you get your news, do you ever get information that disagrees with positions you hold? do you ever watch or read anything that disagrees with your position? I have also said on this forum I don't like hannity, made jokes about him, talked about disliking fox news channel for making news entertainment instead of truth gathering and reporting. But don't put those on there, use a legitimate question as proof of how much I love fox news. My god you assume a lot of things.
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Teacher had no business talking that way around children...
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
byrnzie
i've been reading your stuff and i agree with you on about 99% of it but-
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
isn't that like saying "the teacher saw the student with the gun, but the teacher didn't bring it to school, so he had no reason to tell anyone"?
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Teacher had no business talking that way around children...
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
byrnzie
i've been reading your stuff and i agree with you on about 99% of it but-
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
isn't that like saying "the teacher saw the student with the gun, but the teacher didn't bring it to school, so he had no reason to tell anyone"?
No, it's not like that at all.
What you're asking is for every teacher to second guess everything they say and run their every thought through a political-correctness-o-meter before speaking.
I know many people would prefer the human race to resemble well-oiled robots, but they never will, so get over it.
What you're asking is for every teacher to second guess everything they say and run their every thought through a political-correctness-o-meter before speaking.
I know many people would prefer the human race to resemble well-oiled robots, but they never will, so get over it.[/quote]
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
I think it's just symptomatic of the fact that Conservatism and political correctness have now infested every aspect of American life. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
I think it's just symptomatic of the fact that Conservatism and political correctness have now infested every aspect of American life. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
ha ha...the irony...if this were a Israeli teacher talking about assassinating Abbas you'd be singing a different tune...
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
I think it's just symptomatic of the fact that Conservatism and political correctness have now infested every aspect of American life. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
ha ha...the irony...if this were a Israeli teacher talking about assassinating Abbas you'd be singing a different tune...
Did you even read the OP? Do you even know what this thread is about?
By the way, what tune would I be singing? I've been saying for the last 5 pages that the teachers comments have been blown out of proportion. How would that be any different if they were discussing any other World leader? I suggest you engage your brain before spouting off in future. But then I suppose you were only looking for an excuse to make a snide/smug comment.
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
I think it's just symptomatic of the fact that Conservatism and political correctness have now infested every aspect of American life. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
I don't really think the overblown importance of PC has much of anything to do with conservatism...other way around my friend if 1 side has more of a stake then the other. Actually, both probably share equal blame in each of their own areas.
The problem I have with the PC crap, is people end up losing their jobs/life over something that they really should just have a conversation about with their management/leadership/boss. That's where it gets extreme. It's like the only response to someone saying something out of line (1 time even) is to fire them...it's crazy.
Did you even read the OP? Do you even know what this thread is about?
By the way, what tune would I be singing? I've been saying for the last 5 pages that the teachers comments have been blown out of proportion. How would that be any different if they were discussing any other World leader? I suggest you engage your brain before spouting off in future. But then I suppose you were only looking for an excuse to make a snide/smug comment.
yeah, I read it...and I joined in the conversation...
And thanks for the suggestion...perhaps you can do the same...
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Hell no dude.....we're a bunch of bat shit crazy fucking red-necks
Anyway, from the way the teacher replied my guess is that he already knew that the students comment wasn't made with any sort of seriousness. The whole thing just reeks of over-sensitivity, political correctness, and media hyped bullshit.[/quote]
hey byrnzie
you assume that the teacher knew the student's comment wasn't serious.
i assume the teacher is, at some level, a racist.
what's the difference?
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The difference is that I base my assumption on what was actually said, whereas you're assumption is based on a prejudice you have against southerners.
Edit: Though I could be wrong. Maybe there's more to this story and maybe he is a racist. I'm just basing my opinion on what was recorded in the above news article.
b
i hate hate
north south east or west
in this case, yes, it hurt the teacher being in alabama.
but i don't have a prejudice against southerners.
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
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I think it was pretty poor judgment of the teacher to use the example, even if a student mentioned it. Now, do I think it should result in the teacher being fired? Well, that's where motivation comes into play for me. If it was as innocent as using a student's example to teach, then no firing, but the lack of good judgment should be noted in case any future issues arise.
please oh pretty please tell me where I wrote how much I love fox news. And yes, media coverage in our country is a HUGE problem. very rarely do we ever get an actually unbiased news story from any source. I didn't really care that they were black or white, my point was that not everyone in alabama was a racist.
and quit with phrases like "there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to." It makes me think you are saying that I want all african american people to keep there mouth shut and I do not appreciate it.
But again, please show me where I pointed out in any post how much I love fox news.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
and quit with phrases like "there might have been an african-american in that class.
who did not keep his or her mouth shut, like you probably expect them to." It makes me think you are saying that I want all african american people to keep there mouth shut and I do not appreciate it.
But again, please show me where I pointed out in any post how much I love fox news.[/quote]
Re: More states to introduce anti-illegal immigration laws
by mikepegg44 » 21 May 2010 18:39
ed243421 wrote:
unsung wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05 ... migration/
Rhode Island state Rep. Peter Palumbo has filed a bill that looks nearly identical to Arizona's. It requires law enforcement to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally -- provided they don't stop someone on that basis alone. The proposal empowers police to turn over illegal immigrants to federal custody and also bars local jurisdictions from limiting immigration enforcement. Several other provisions in the bill are based on Arizona's law.
Palumbo, a Democrat, told Fox News that Arizona residents were "merely trying to protect themselves" and that the Rhode Island bill could help the state save millions every year.
why would you watch or read fox news?
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Re: More states to introduce anti-illegal immigration laws
by mikepegg44 » 21 May 2010 18:39
ed243421 wrote:
unsung wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05 ... migration/
Rhode Island state Rep. Peter Palumbo has filed a bill that looks nearly identical to Arizona's. It requires law enforcement to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally -- provided they don't stop someone on that basis alone. The proposal empowers police to turn over illegal immigrants to federal custody and also bars local jurisdictions from limiting immigration enforcement. Several other provisions in the bill are based on Arizona's law.
Palumbo, a Democrat, told Fox News that Arizona residents were "merely trying to protect themselves" and that the Rhode Island bill could help the state save millions every year.
why would you watch or read fox news?
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lol, so asking you why you wouldn't watch or read anything from fox news means I love it? It makes me nervous that someone would completely discount all information coming from a source because of the an ideological disagreement. If that is how you get your news, do you ever get information that disagrees with positions you hold? do you ever watch or read anything that disagrees with your position? I have also said on this forum I don't like hannity, made jokes about him, talked about disliking fox news channel for making news entertainment instead of truth gathering and reporting. But don't put those on there, use a legitimate question as proof of how much I love fox news. My god you assume a lot of things.
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Sweep the Leg Johnny.
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
Man are you freaking annoying....Are you like the youngest kid in the family or something?
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
byrnzie
i've been reading your stuff and i agree with you on about 99% of it but-
He didn't provide the example, the student did.
isn't that like saying "the teacher saw the student with the gun, but the teacher didn't bring it to school, so he had no reason to tell anyone"?
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No, it's not like that at all.
What you're asking is for every teacher to second guess everything they say and run their every thought through a political-correctness-o-meter before speaking.
I know many people would prefer the human race to resemble well-oiled robots, but they never will, so get over it.
What you're asking is for every teacher to second guess everything they say and run their every thought through a political-correctness-o-meter before speaking.
I know many people would prefer the human race to resemble well-oiled robots, but they never will, so get over it.[/quote]
This student's example isn't about political-correctness, it's about an illegal act. And the teacher should have had the common sense to say to the student, "let's rephrase your example to something that isn't illegal like hitting a benign target." He didn't and that's why we're having this discussion.
I think it's just symptomatic of the fact that Conservatism and political correctness have now infested every aspect of American life. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
ha ha...the irony...if this were a Israeli teacher talking about assassinating Abbas you'd be singing a different tune...
Did you even read the OP? Do you even know what this thread is about?
By the way, what tune would I be singing? I've been saying for the last 5 pages that the teachers comments have been blown out of proportion. How would that be any different if they were discussing any other World leader? I suggest you engage your brain before spouting off in future. But then I suppose you were only looking for an excuse to make a snide/smug comment.
I don't really think the overblown importance of PC has much of anything to do with conservatism...other way around my friend if 1 side has more of a stake then the other. Actually, both probably share equal blame in each of their own areas.
The problem I have with the PC crap, is people end up losing their jobs/life over something that they really should just have a conversation about with their management/leadership/boss. That's where it gets extreme. It's like the only response to someone saying something out of line (1 time even) is to fire them...it's crazy.
yeah, I read it...and I joined in the conversation...
And thanks for the suggestion...perhaps you can do the same...