Teacher's Obama Assassination Lesson

ed243421

Jason P wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

dasvidana wrote:

Alabama is a different world. I personally wish they would cede from the union.

It has nothing to do with Alabama. The noise was caused by your sensationalist media blowing an irrelevant story out of proportion and relying on the gullible American public to start frothing at the mouth over it. This kind of thing sells newspapers and t.v air-time. That's all.

Correct-o-mondo.

Last week there was a headline story of foxnews.com about the outrage over a 2nd grader who got two weeks detention (during lunch and recess) because she had a Jolly Rancher. The mother was of course outraged and ready to pull her dear child out of the harsh public school system. Do we really need to know this shit???? Or course not. Same thing with the 4 kids that got sent home for wearing american t-shirts during Cinco Mayo. It is not national news. It's a local PTA issue at best.

I'm glad that I didn't have this going on when I was in school. I'm sure I would have done something stupid that would have had Fox and MSNBC helicopters circling overhead.

jason
i hate fox news more than anyone. i really don't watch any news. for a laugh mostly. do you have kids in school?

Jason P

ed243421 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Correct-o-mondo.

Last week there was a headline story of foxnews.com about the outrage over a 2nd grader who got two weeks detention (during lunch and recess) because she had a Jolly Rancher. The mother was of course outraged and ready to pull her dear child out of the harsh public school system. Do we really need to know this shit???? Or course not. Same thing with the 4 kids that got sent home for wearing american t-shirts during Cinco Mayo. It is not national news. It's a local PTA issue at best.

I'm glad that I didn't have this going on when I was in school. I'm sure I would have done something stupid that would have had Fox and MSNBC helicopters circling overhead.

jason
i hate fox news more than anyone. i really don't watch any news. for a laugh mostly. do you have kids in school?

I don't watch much TV but I sample news stories from a varity of sites, including foxnews.

No kids in school . . . but I did have $1800 of my tax refund go directly to my local community schools. So I feel like I'm at least renting some kids.

mikepegg44

dasvidana wrote:

My point was that those in Alabama wouldn't have said that if a republican had said it. They would have lynched someone for saying it. The reason they are ok with it is because Obama's views fall outside what they're tolerant of.

I live in Vt and if someone here had made that comment about Sarah Palin and the tangent of the bullet, the people here would recognize that that kind of dialogue doesn't belong in public school.

you have no idea what this teacher is tolerant of

rebornFixer

Byrnzie wrote:

It was a throwaway comment. He just responded to the kids question. He wasn't teaching the students hatred. He was teaching them physics. If a kid asks a question that involves an example then you respond to his question. This is just typical media bullshit, over-dramatizing something innocuous in order to whip the unthinking masses into another frenzy in order to sell newspapers.

A bit late to the discussion, but +1

rebornFixer

ed243421 wrote:

my point exactly.
my guess is that it is rascism.
i know i does not belong in school.

I might agree that this was a poorly chosen example, but beyond Obama's mixed race heritage, what's the evidence that this is "racism"? This is exactly what Byrnzie was talking about. People are chomping at the bit to freak out about every little instance of poor judgment.

mysticweed

Byrnzie wrote:

ed243421 wrote:

alabama right?
let's just say the teacher was white and so was the student.
my gut tells me this is a racist joke gone bad.
i guess i just want the least amount possible, of hate and rascism, forced on my kids in school.
am i crazy?

It was a throwaway comment. He just responded to the kids question. He wasn't teaching the students hatred. He was teaching them physics. If a kid asks a question that involves an example then you respond to his question. This is just typical media bullshit, over-dramatizing something innocuous in order to whip the unthinking masses into another frenzy in order to sell newspapers.

BTW - Technically, tangencies are trigonomic functions.
But using the maiming or murdering of the leader of our country as the example for the day's lesson is wholeheartedly based in racism and hate.
imho

dasvidana

mikepegg44 wrote:

dasvidana wrote:

My point was that those in Alabama wouldn't have said that if a republican had said it. They would have lynched someone for saying it. The reason they are ok with it is because Obama's views fall outside what they're tolerant of.

I live in Vt and if someone here had made that comment about Sarah Palin and the tangent of the bullet, the people here would recognize that that kind of dialogue doesn't belong in public school.

you have no idea what this teacher is tolerant of

having grown up there, I do have an idea of the culture there, and I believe this teacher's comment is reflective of the larger culture of Alabama which is one of intolerance for views that are not consistent with conservative religious dogma. My point is that this is an example of the larger culture that exists there, not that I can read the mind of this one teacher or student.

eyedclaar

That is a conversation that doesn't belong in public schools. It is against the law for anyone to even joke about killing any president. That being said, I broke that law a million times during the Bush reign of terror, but I still wouldn't have been making those jokes in a public school.

the wolf

eyedclaar wrote:

That is a conversation that doesn't belong in public schools. It is against the law for anyone to even joke about killing any president. That being said, I broke that law a million times during the Bush reign of terror, but I still wouldn't have been making those jokes in a public school.

only because of the restraining order keeping you at least 100 yards away from all public schools.

eyedclaar

the wolf wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

That is a conversation that doesn't belong in public schools. It is against the law for anyone to even joke about killing any president. That being said, I broke that law a million times during the Bush reign of terror, but I still wouldn't have been making those jokes in a public school.

only because of the restraining order keeping you at least 100 yards away from all public schools.

Public schools AND Chuck-E-Cheeses!

Eliot Rosewater

This is by far the best part of the story.....

"There is no place in our society for a person to make these comments,"

Really? So what now? Execute this teacher? No place in our society? Jesus, that's in an official statement from the scool district? Sounds like they probably have a lot bigger problems than a teacher using questionable scenarios while actually trying to teach.

mikepegg44

dasvidana wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

dasvidana wrote:

My point was that those in Alabama wouldn't have said that if a republican had said it. They would have lynched someone for saying it. The reason they are ok with it is because Obama's views fall outside what they're tolerant of.

I live in Vt and if someone here had made that comment about Sarah Palin and the tangent of the bullet, the people here would recognize that that kind of dialogue doesn't belong in public school.

you have no idea what this teacher is tolerant of

having grown up there, I do have an idea of the culture there, and I believe this teacher's comment is reflective of the larger culture of Alabama which is one of intolerance for views that are not consistent with conservative religious dogma. My point is that this is an example of the larger culture that exists there, not that I can read the mind of this one teacher or student.

my point is you are assuming the comment was malicious and then extrapolating that to talk about the entire state of alabama. And since none of us were there, byrnzie is right in saying that this isn't as big of a deal as the media made it seem. If it as part of the culture than how on earth did this make it to the national media. If everyone there accepted this type of thing how did it get out? Probably because it was told to a few people and then someone took it out of context and put it on the news.

ed243421

you have no idea what this teacher is tolerant of[/quote]
having grown up there, I do have an idea of the culture there, and I believe this teacher's comment is reflective of the larger culture of Alabama which is one of intolerance for views that are not consistent with conservative religious dogma. My point is that this is an example of the larger culture that exists there, not that I can read the mind of this one teacher or student.[/quote]

my point is you are assuming the comment was malicious and then extrapolating that to talk about the entire state of alabama. And since none of us were there, byrnzie is right in saying that this isn't as big of a deal as the media made it seem. If it as part of the culture than how on earth did this make it to the national media. If everyone there accepted this type of thing how did it get out? Probably because it was told to a few people and then someone took it out of context and put it on the news.[/quote]

hey mike
ever think there might have been a african-american in that classroom.
or are they invisible to you?

eyedclaar

mikepegg44 wrote:

my point is you are assuming the comment was malicious and then extrapolating that to talk about the entire state of alabama. And since none of us were there, byrnzie is right in saying that this isn't as big of a deal as the media made it seem. If it as part of the culture than how on earth did this make it to the national media. If everyone there accepted this type of thing how did it get out? Probably because it was told to a few people and then someone took it out of context and put it on the news.

I work in HR for a government agency. Teachers are government employees. In all personnel issues, it doesn't matter what someone's intention was, it is how their actions or words are perceived by others that matters. This teacher should have fucking known better than to use that as an example. Now, while I suspect he's a racist at heart, I can't prove that, but I do know he's fucking stupid.

dasvidana

I am sure the comment drew a few chuckles from both the teacher and the students. They probably weren't taking themselves seriously. However, it is emblematic of how many of those in the deep south think. It's right up there with "black jokes." God knows, I heard many of them growing up there.

Byrnzie

ed243421 wrote:

byrnzie, are you blind or just stubborn.

Neither. Obstinate may be a better description:


ob·sti·nate
   /ˈɒbstənɪt/ Show Spelled[ob-stuh-nit] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
firmly or stubbornly adhering to one's purpose, opinion, etc.; not yielding to argument, persuasion, or entreaty.
2.
characterized by inflexible persistence or an unyielding attitude; inflexibly persisted in or carried out: obstinate advocacy of high tariffs.
3.
not easily controlled or overcome: the obstinate growth of weeds.
4.
not yielding readily to treatment, as a disease.

ed243421 wrote:

They are haters.
are you?

Nope.

Byrnzie

eyedclaar wrote:

That is a conversation that doesn't belong in public schools. It is against the law for anyone to even joke about killing any president. That being said, I broke that law a million times during the Bush reign of terror, but I still wouldn't have been making those jokes in a public school.

It was the kid that brought it up. The teacher just responded to the kids example. This teachers job is to teach physics, or maths (fucked if I know!) and a teacher will latch onto any example given by a student in order to better clarify a point. He shouldn't have to worry about whether what he's saying could be deemed politically incorrect.

Byrnzie

eyedclaar wrote:

This teacher should have fucking known better than to use that as an example. Now, while I suspect he's a racist at heart, I can't prove that, but I do know he's fucking stupid.

He didn't. The kid used it as an example.

TN49724

sad

Byrnzie

TN49724 wrote:

sad

Good song that. Though maybe your post belongs in The Porch section?