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But is it Ok to support him on some things and not others you seem to fall on the side i voted for him but don't agree with him on somethings , so that begs the question knowing what you now know would you still vote for him ?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Can I have “What is I think I’m better than everyone else, Alex?”PJ_Soul said:
Wow, I think you're giving them way too much credit. I think they do what they do because they are simply stupid, racist and/or xenophobic and/or gun-toting and/or bible thumping hypocrites and/or greedy, selfish assholes.Ledbetterman10 said:
I feel more sorry for those that did vote for him and still support him. Talk about "they know not what they do."PJ_Soul said:I feel so sorry for the decent Americans (so those who didn't vote Trump and don't still support him), having a POTUS who will only stop being as evil as he wants to be (Evil evil too, not the figurative kind) when the public and political backlash undeniably threatens his next campaign run PLUS when his own wife and daughter has to beg him to walk it back.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I’d be tying every single one of them to Team Trump Treason and their repube senate colleagues up for re-election as one twisted sick entity that behaves like the dictators that Team Trump Treason adulates and try to get as many of those toxic assholes out.mrussel1 said:
it's not just that, but it's the freedom caucus in the HOR. They won't sign on to anything where the Dreamers have a pathway. Tehy want deportation along with a drastic reduction to LEGAL immigration too. Also, no amnesty or path to citizenship for anyone currently in the country. They are the problem.josevolution said:
Yep we def need immigration reform but is the wall the only thing this administration wants as part of any reform ...cincybearcat said:You know what also sucks about this? No one is talking actual reform.... house bills will fail. We will not do any of the tough work to improve this for everyone. Instead we will use it as an excuse as to why it's too hard.
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Thanks for helping these people for me!mrussel1 said:
You're missing the point. Because your error was the same as the admin, he's alluded that maybe you wrote it for the admin.LongestRoad said:
Sorry, i'm in pain and using partial talk to text on a phone to post. I'm sorry doesn't meet your grammar specifications LOLmrussel1 said:
It's because that's the same spelling error the administration made in the actual executive order. That's pretty funny.HughFreakingDillon said:
not more grammar/spelling police shit, 30?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Interesting. Very very interesting.LongestRoad said:
Why are you continuing to not acknowledge that it was happening in the past. Children have been seperated from their parents in the past, lots of people have been deported. I've seen links posted right here that talk about it. I'm on the side of right not on the rights side or the lefts side. I try to process it all not like the far right and far left choose to do. I think the "news" stations shouldn't be called news anymore. They should be Fox Opinion and CNN Opinion.PJ_Soul said:
Why are you continuing to refuse acknowledgment of how what started happening in April is completely different from what was happening before that? I don't understand it.LongestRoad said:
If you actually read what i've posted in the past you would've seen that I've already talked about my feelings towards the issues that are going on with immigration. this has been going on for years it didn't just start with this administration. It has been going on through all the administrations. and like I said before they only let the immigrants into this country when they need them and that's a sad situation. I'm glad he made the change in policy. I do agree there has to be a vetting process to keep criminals, terrorists and traffickers from getting in. I hope that they're making sure all that are being detained are safe from any criminals that may be awaiting the process.tbergs said:
Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
It seems when it's getting close to election time, the party in office suddenly starts to change their immigration policies to get the votes for their party like the past administration for example. That doesn't make them a great president or senator or congressman, it just makes them a politician just like all before them. It's wrong to use these people as your political stepping stone. It's election time and the politicians are coming out in force to investigate the issue and "help" that's why all this is being brought up. They were seperating children from parents in the past administration. Once politicians get elected it'll back to the same.
Immigrants should be welcome in this country as long as they don't expect a free ride. Come here to work and spend your money here, not to get in and then collect benefits that aren't available to the people here.
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The I think i'm perfect "liberal" left grammar policing the world. What would we do without your you're free to believe as long as it's exactly as I believe.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Thanks for helping these people for me!mrussel1 said:
You're missing the point. Because your error was the same as the admin, he's alluded that maybe you wrote it for the admin.LongestRoad said:
Sorry, i'm in pain and using partial talk to text on a phone to post. I'm sorry doesn't meet your grammar specifications LOLmrussel1 said:
It's because that's the same spelling error the administration made in the actual executive order. That's pretty funny.HughFreakingDillon said:
not more grammar/spelling police shit, 30?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Interesting. Very very interesting.LongestRoad said:
Why are you continuing to not acknowledge that it was happening in the past. Children have been seperated from their parents in the past, lots of people have been deported. I've seen links posted right here that talk about it. I'm on the side of right not on the rights side or the lefts side. I try to process it all not like the far right and far left choose to do. I think the "news" stations shouldn't be called news anymore. They should be Fox Opinion and CNN Opinion.PJ_Soul said:
Why are you continuing to refuse acknowledgment of how what started happening in April is completely different from what was happening before that? I don't understand it.LongestRoad said:
If you actually read what i've posted in the past you would've seen that I've already talked about my feelings towards the issues that are going on with immigration. this has been going on for years it didn't just start with this administration. It has been going on through all the administrations. and like I said before they only let the immigrants into this country when they need them and that's a sad situation. I'm glad he made the change in policy. I do agree there has to be a vetting process to keep criminals, terrorists and traffickers from getting in. I hope that they're making sure all that are being detained are safe from any criminals that may be awaiting the process.tbergs said:
Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
It seems when it's getting close to election time, the party in office suddenly starts to change their immigration policies to get the votes for their party like the past administration for example. That doesn't make them a great president or senator or congressman, it just makes them a politician just like all before them. It's wrong to use these people as your political stepping stone. It's election time and the politicians are coming out in force to investigate the issue and "help" that's why all this is being brought up. They were seperating children from parents in the past administration. Once politicians get elected it'll back to the same.
Immigrants should be welcome in this country as long as they don't expect a free ride. Come here to work and spend your money here, not to get in and then collect benefits that aren't available to the people here.0 -
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
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Well... one guy didn't get it.LongestRoad said:
The I think i'm perfect "liberal" left grammar policing the world. What would we do without your you're free to believe as long as it's exactly as I believe.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Thanks for helping these people for me!mrussel1 said:
You're missing the point. Because your error was the same as the admin, he's alluded that maybe you wrote it for the admin.LongestRoad said:
Sorry, i'm in pain and using partial talk to text on a phone to post. I'm sorry doesn't meet your grammar specifications LOLmrussel1 said:
It's because that's the same spelling error the administration made in the actual executive order. That's pretty funny.HughFreakingDillon said:
not more grammar/spelling police shit, 30?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Interesting. Very very interesting.LongestRoad said:
Why are you continuing to not acknowledge that it was happening in the past. Children have been seperated from their parents in the past, lots of people have been deported. I've seen links posted right here that talk about it. I'm on the side of right not on the rights side or the lefts side. I try to process it all not like the far right and far left choose to do. I think the "news" stations shouldn't be called news anymore. They should be Fox Opinion and CNN Opinion.PJ_Soul said:
Why are you continuing to refuse acknowledgment of how what started happening in April is completely different from what was happening before that? I don't understand it.LongestRoad said:
If you actually read what i've posted in the past you would've seen that I've already talked about my feelings towards the issues that are going on with immigration. this has been going on for years it didn't just start with this administration. It has been going on through all the administrations. and like I said before they only let the immigrants into this country when they need them and that's a sad situation. I'm glad he made the change in policy. I do agree there has to be a vetting process to keep criminals, terrorists and traffickers from getting in. I hope that they're making sure all that are being detained are safe from any criminals that may be awaiting the process.tbergs said:
Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
It seems when it's getting close to election time, the party in office suddenly starts to change their immigration policies to get the votes for their party like the past administration for example. That doesn't make them a great president or senator or congressman, it just makes them a politician just like all before them. It's wrong to use these people as your political stepping stone. It's election time and the politicians are coming out in force to investigate the issue and "help" that's why all this is being brought up. They were seperating children from parents in the past administration. Once politicians get elected it'll back to the same.
Immigrants should be welcome in this country as long as they don't expect a free ride. Come here to work and spend your money here, not to get in and then collect benefits that aren't available to the people here.
Lighten up, Francis.
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It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This is why no one should feel bad for her. She's all in. No one can defend this blatant silent message.my2hands said:It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Please enumerate the benefits that immigrants get that aren’t available to the people here.LongestRoad said:
The I think i'm perfect "liberal" left grammar policing the world. What would we do without your you're free to believe as long as it's exactly as I believe.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Thanks for helping these people for me!mrussel1 said:
You're missing the point. Because your error was the same as the admin, he's alluded that maybe you wrote it for the admin.LongestRoad said:
Sorry, i'm in pain and using partial talk to text on a phone to post. I'm sorry doesn't meet your grammar specifications LOLmrussel1 said:
It's because that's the same spelling error the administration made in the actual executive order. That's pretty funny.HughFreakingDillon said:
not more grammar/spelling police shit, 30?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Interesting. Very very interesting.LongestRoad said:
Why are you continuing to not acknowledge that it was happening in the past. Children have been seperated from their parents in the past, lots of people have been deported. I've seen links posted right here that talk about it. I'm on the side of right not on the rights side or the lefts side. I try to process it all not like the far right and far left choose to do. I think the "news" stations shouldn't be called news anymore. They should be Fox Opinion and CNN Opinion.PJ_Soul said:
Why are you continuing to refuse acknowledgment of how what started happening in April is completely different from what was happening before that? I don't understand it.LongestRoad said:
If you actually read what i've posted in the past you would've seen that I've already talked about my feelings towards the issues that are going on with immigration. this has been going on for years it didn't just start with this administration. It has been going on through all the administrations. and like I said before they only let the immigrants into this country when they need them and that's a sad situation. I'm glad he made the change in policy. I do agree there has to be a vetting process to keep criminals, terrorists and traffickers from getting in. I hope that they're making sure all that are being detained are safe from any criminals that may be awaiting the process.tbergs said:
Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
It seems when it's getting close to election time, the party in office suddenly starts to change their immigration policies to get the votes for their party like the past administration for example. That doesn't make them a great president or senator or congressman, it just makes them a politician just like all before them. It's wrong to use these people as your political stepping stone. It's election time and the politicians are coming out in force to investigate the issue and "help" that's why all this is being brought up. They were seperating children from parents in the past administration. Once politicians get elected it'll back to the same.
Immigrants should be welcome in this country as long as they don't expect a free ride. Come here to work and spend your money here, not to get in and then collect benefits that aren't available to the people here.
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Do you need a picture book to explain the joke? It wasn't personal or directed at you. It was a knock on the White House. But now you're making it about you. Take a page from McGruff.LongestRoad said:
The I think i'm perfect "liberal" left grammar policing the world. What would we do without your you're free to believe as long as it's exactly as I believe.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Thanks for helping these people for me!mrussel1 said:
You're missing the point. Because your error was the same as the admin, he's alluded that maybe you wrote it for the admin.LongestRoad said:
Sorry, i'm in pain and using partial talk to text on a phone to post. I'm sorry doesn't meet your grammar specifications LOLmrussel1 said:
It's because that's the same spelling error the administration made in the actual executive order. That's pretty funny.HughFreakingDillon said:
not more grammar/spelling police shit, 30?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Interesting. Very very interesting.LongestRoad said:
Why are you continuing to not acknowledge that it was happening in the past. Children have been seperated from their parents in the past, lots of people have been deported. I've seen links posted right here that talk about it. I'm on the side of right not on the rights side or the lefts side. I try to process it all not like the far right and far left choose to do. I think the "news" stations shouldn't be called news anymore. They should be Fox Opinion and CNN Opinion.PJ_Soul said:
Why are you continuing to refuse acknowledgment of how what started happening in April is completely different from what was happening before that? I don't understand it.LongestRoad said:
If you actually read what i've posted in the past you would've seen that I've already talked about my feelings towards the issues that are going on with immigration. this has been going on for years it didn't just start with this administration. It has been going on through all the administrations. and like I said before they only let the immigrants into this country when they need them and that's a sad situation. I'm glad he made the change in policy. I do agree there has to be a vetting process to keep criminals, terrorists and traffickers from getting in. I hope that they're making sure all that are being detained are safe from any criminals that may be awaiting the process.tbergs said:
Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
It seems when it's getting close to election time, the party in office suddenly starts to change their immigration policies to get the votes for their party like the past administration for example. That doesn't make them a great president or senator or congressman, it just makes them a politician just like all before them. It's wrong to use these people as your political stepping stone. It's election time and the politicians are coming out in force to investigate the issue and "help" that's why all this is being brought up. They were seperating children from parents in the past administration. Once politicians get elected it'll back to the same.
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I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."
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i'd just say, how's her anti-bullying campaign going? While being married to the biggest bully ever? Its like that went away really quick, right? Do you really think she cares for these immigrant children? Coming form her life of privelege? Its not like her and Ivanka are down there mopping floors, making meals, changing diapers, reading stories and tucking them into bed. Its a photo op to give Team Trump Treason "heart."PJ_Soul said:
I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
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I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."0 -
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Well, that anti-bullying campaign never really materialized at all - weren't there just maybe 3 speeches, and that's it? And yeah, the ridiculousness of it, given who her husband is, was just so awkward, I'm surprised she even got that far. But I don't think that's because she's okay with online bullying or with her big gross bully of a husband. I think it's because she has absolutely no interest whatsoever in the duties normally taken up by a First Lady. Those few speeches was her pathetic attempt to at least dip her toe into the role (and to kind of stick it to her despised husband while she was at it), but she clearly decided she wasn't feeling it (and the stick it to him idea backfired miserably). Her lack of responsibility as the President's wife, though, isn't a clear signal to me that she's a horrible person. I've always felt like she's just a sad little gold digger who hates her husband, and who never wanted him to run for POTUS in the first place. I bet she was absolutely mortified when he actually won. I think she just wants to be a New York socialite, and that is the end of the story, and she's bitter that she can't just live that life like she planned when she married The Don. I have absolutely zero respect for her, but I never thought of her as evil like Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
i'd just say, how's her anti-bullying campaign going? While being married to the biggest bully ever? Its like that went away really quick, right? Do you really think she cares for these immigrant children? Coming form her life of privelege? Its not like her and Ivanka are down there mopping floors, making meals, changing diapers, reading stories and tucking them into bed. Its a photo op to give Team Trump Treason "heart."PJ_Soul said:
I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."
Do I really think she cares about those children? I doubt she cares as much as a lot of us do, as her life is very skewed inside her bizarre little bubble. But I didn't think cares so much less that she would be callous enough to actually wear a jacket that says she really doesn't care about them, lol. If that is indeed why she wore that thing, then.... Well, then I still think she's maybe having a mental breakdown anyhow, because that would be a pretty bat shit crazy thing to do anyway, no??? I didn't think she was going down there to mop floors or change diapers (why would she do that??), I assumed she was going down just because she probably felt like, for all of her complete inaction as FLOTUS, she at least felt obligated to suck it up this time specifically because it is such a big deal that involves a bad situation involving children, and she couldn't really get away with not showing some concern.... but if she wore that jacket for the reason you think, then that goes right out the window, lol. That's why I'm finding your theory hard to believe... I just made shit worse for her, so why would she do that??
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Because privately, when the cameras and microphones aren’t on, she’s anti-immigrant. She can’t express it like Team Trump Treason so she does what she can to let folks know that she’s still on their side. Either that or she’s dumb as a rock to be so tone deaf?PJ_Soul said:
Well, that anti-bullying campaign never really materialized at all - weren't there just maybe 3 speeches, and that's it? And yeah, the ridiculousness of it, given who her husband is, was just so awkward, I'm surprised she even got that far. But I don't think that's because she's okay with online bullying or with her big gross bully of a husband. I think it's because she has absolutely no interest whatsoever in the duties normally taken up by a First Lady. Those few speeches was her pathetic attempt to at least dip her toe into the role (and to kind of stick it to her despised husband while she was at it), but she clearly decided she wasn't feeling it (and the stick it to him idea backfired miserably). Her lack of responsibility as the President's wife, though, isn't a clear signal to me that she's a horrible person. I've always felt like she's just a sad little gold digger who hates her husband, and who never wanted him to run for POTUS in the first place. I bet she was absolutely mortified when he actually won. I think she just wants to be a New York socialite, and that is the end of the story, and she's bitter that she can't just live that life like she planned when she married The Don. I have absolutely zero respect for her, but I never thought of her as evil like Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
i'd just say, how's her anti-bullying campaign going? While being married to the biggest bully ever? Its like that went away really quick, right? Do you really think she cares for these immigrant children? Coming form her life of privelege? Its not like her and Ivanka are down there mopping floors, making meals, changing diapers, reading stories and tucking them into bed. Its a photo op to give Team Trump Treason "heart."PJ_Soul said:
I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."
Do I really think she cares about those children? I doubt she cares as much as a lot of us do, as her life is very skewed inside her bizarre little bubble. But I didn't think cares so much less that she would be callous enough to actually wear a jacket that says she really doesn't care about them, lol. If that is indeed why she wore that thing, then.... Well, then I still think she's maybe having a mental breakdown anyhow, because that would be a pretty bat shit crazy thing to do anyway, no??? I didn't think she was going down there to mop floors or change diapers (why would she do that??), I assumed she was going down just because she probably felt like, for all of her complete inaction as FLOTUS, she at least felt obligated to suck it up this time specifically because it is such a big deal that involves a bad situation involving children, and she couldn't really get away with not showing some concern.... but if she wore that jacket for the reason you think, then that goes right out the window, lol. That's why I'm finding your theory hard to believe... I just made shit worse for her, so why would she do that??Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that she's racist.... But wearing a message in huge letters on her back seems a little less subtle than I would expect from her is all, lol!Halifax2TheMax said:
Because privately, when the cameras and microphones aren’t on, she’s anti-immigrant. She can’t express it like Team Trump Treason so she does what she can to let folks know that she’s still on their side. Either that or she’s dumb as a rock to be so tone deaf?PJ_Soul said:
Well, that anti-bullying campaign never really materialized at all - weren't there just maybe 3 speeches, and that's it? And yeah, the ridiculousness of it, given who her husband is, was just so awkward, I'm surprised she even got that far. But I don't think that's because she's okay with online bullying or with her big gross bully of a husband. I think it's because she has absolutely no interest whatsoever in the duties normally taken up by a First Lady. Those few speeches was her pathetic attempt to at least dip her toe into the role (and to kind of stick it to her despised husband while she was at it), but she clearly decided she wasn't feeling it (and the stick it to him idea backfired miserably). Her lack of responsibility as the President's wife, though, isn't a clear signal to me that she's a horrible person. I've always felt like she's just a sad little gold digger who hates her husband, and who never wanted him to run for POTUS in the first place. I bet she was absolutely mortified when he actually won. I think she just wants to be a New York socialite, and that is the end of the story, and she's bitter that she can't just live that life like she planned when she married The Don. I have absolutely zero respect for her, but I never thought of her as evil like Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
i'd just say, how's her anti-bullying campaign going? While being married to the biggest bully ever? Its like that went away really quick, right? Do you really think she cares for these immigrant children? Coming form her life of privelege? Its not like her and Ivanka are down there mopping floors, making meals, changing diapers, reading stories and tucking them into bed. Its a photo op to give Team Trump Treason "heart."PJ_Soul said:
I know what dog whistle means of course, but as for the rest of all that.... Honestly, I didn't get what you meant because I don't believe that Melania is that evil. You really think Melania would actually feel that way or send that kind of signal at all? I feel like she hates her husband's guts and wouldn't do anything to go out of her way to send such messages to his supporters, let alone send one that brash. I think that jacket had a more personal message to it, rather than a political one. But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Melania is as big a piece of shit as her husband - if you're right, then she is. I never thought so, but hey, anything from that whole family is possible.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dog whistle = a subtle way to remind folks that you're with them, even if you're publicly doing or saying something contrary to the beliefs of your audience, by sending a signal that you're still supportive of the cause and you only have to do what you're doing or saying by going through the motions. Her jacket signaled that hey. "I don't care, really." And the center she visited was for unaccompianied minors, not those removed from their parents as they crossed, a difference many won't discern, as evidenced here on these boards.PJ_Soul said:
Well I don't. I don't even know what you mean. Can you explain?Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s a dog whistle to the stay at home Faux & friends crowd. They get it.PJ_Soul said:
That's crazy... maybe she's having her long overdue mental breakdown or something. That choice is just too bizarre for it to not mean something or other. Or, at the very least, perhaps this is a bold statement about her position as Trump's wife and how she feels about her being FLOTUS. I really think the smartest thing she could do at this point would be to bail completely. Just leave the WH altogether and go relax in Europe somewhere with her son until this is all over.my2hands said:
Ronald Reagan gave his announcement speech for president at a county fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of and the same county as the murder of the Freedom Riders, Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. He gave a dog whistle to rural whites that he was their guy. His policies, after being elected, bore that out, with his attacks on social welfare that disproportionitly affected minorities. Similar to Team Trump Treason saying he loves the "blacks" but then hammers immigrants, Mexico for sending rapists, Haiti being a shithole country, etc., etc. Or, "theres good folks on both sides."
Do I really think she cares about those children? I doubt she cares as much as a lot of us do, as her life is very skewed inside her bizarre little bubble. But I didn't think cares so much less that she would be callous enough to actually wear a jacket that says she really doesn't care about them, lol. If that is indeed why she wore that thing, then.... Well, then I still think she's maybe having a mental breakdown anyhow, because that would be a pretty bat shit crazy thing to do anyway, no??? I didn't think she was going down there to mop floors or change diapers (why would she do that??), I assumed she was going down just because she probably felt like, for all of her complete inaction as FLOTUS, she at least felt obligated to suck it up this time specifically because it is such a big deal that involves a bad situation involving children, and she couldn't really get away with not showing some concern.... but if she wore that jacket for the reason you think, then that goes right out the window, lol. That's why I'm finding your theory hard to believe... I just made shit worse for her, so why would she do that??
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