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https://www.economist.com/leaders/2014/02/08/barack-obama-deporter-in-chieftempo_n_groove said:
Bush and Clinton deported more people than Obama. I had never heard Obama called that?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sums up stupid. I guess you don’t recall Obama’s nickname, Deporter in Chief and the outrage by the left directed at him for his enforcement of immigration law? Not surprising.unsung said:
Does this sum it up?
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2017/01/barack-obama-deporter-chief-170113105930345.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:
said every liberal ever.PJ_Soul said:
I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?
Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff?Again??0 -
Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives! There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the postmy2hands said:The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding
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I don’t recall any liberals telling anyone to fuck off though. And yea, when confronted with facts to disprove your firmly held opinion? What should those folks be called? Help me out here.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives! There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the postmy2hands said:The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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unsung said:
Thankfully when Al Gore created the internet he made a wonderful feature called archiving...2014?? That can't be true?? Who was president then? This craps been happening under every administration for years and years and years. They only let the immigrants in when they need them here...sad.It looks like something was signed for a resolution to the separation of children from parents. Can that be talked about now.0 -
Lol that’s selective memory then. Here’s a fun game: do a search of the word “fuck” in the amt thread. There’s a whole slew you can pick from.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t recall any liberals telling anyone to fuck off though. And yea, when confronted with facts to disprove your firmly held opinion? What should those folks be called? Help me out here.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives! There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the postmy2hands said:The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astoundingI'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
This conversation would go so much more smoothly if everyone would read what has already been posted before posting.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Well, it shouldn't surprise anyone that Trump supporters don't bother informing their opinion before they post. If they did they wouldn't be Trump supporters.oftenreading said:This conversation would go so much more smoothly if everyone would read what has already been posted before posting.Post edited by dignin on0 -
unsung said:
Yeah exactly. Not theft...at all.brianlux said:
Look for the hacksaw blade in the lower layer of the cake.unsung said:I think I'll stop paying taxes so this welfare for criminals won't be funded. Will you all complain that my kids are left without a father when the govt rips me out of their lives?
Well, I was making a dumb joke. The fact is, that if you refuse to pay taxes, you very well could end up in jail and it's highly unlikely anyone will get away with smuggling in a hacksaw blade for you to cut the bars with. I take it you do not use road or public building paid for by taxes, correct?But we're way off topic here.
Like any large group, there are always going to be some bad apples. It's unavoidable. There are definitely some rather clueless liberals, and no doubt some knee-jerk liberals, and probably even some very selfish liberals, but there sure as hell aren't very many liberals clueless or knee-jerk or selfish enough to have voted for a jerk like Trump. I know of none.my2hands said:The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:
said every liberal ever.PJ_Soul said:
I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?
Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff?Again??
Seriously?
You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.
In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true.
I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:
said every liberal ever.PJ_Soul said:
I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?
Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff?Again??
Seriously?
You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.
In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true.
I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??Hmmnnn....Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.There's always the trusty polygraph test like I once offered a manager to take along with me. She declined.0 -
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LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:
said every liberal ever.PJ_Soul said:
I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?
Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff?Again??
Seriously?
You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.
In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true.
I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??Hmmnnn....Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.There's always the trusty polygraph test like I once offered a manager to take along with me. She declined.
That's kind of a non sequitur, but okay.....
Your manager was right to decline. They're unreliable.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
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Anyone can pass a lie detector by screwing it up. Just answer with, "I'm a liar, and that's the truth."
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No, it was a contrived crisis enacted by Team Trump Treason’s heartless and weak stupidity. He could of done the same with a phone call. He’s an idiot.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Agreed. No way should Trump get Kudos for this, no way. He could say, "I'm sorry, that was a bad mistake" in every language on earth and I wouldn't believe it. No friggin way.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, it was a contrived crisis enacted by Team Trump Treason’s heartless and weak stupidity. He could of done the same with a phone call. He’s an idiot.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
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Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?
You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
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'Stalk' the other posters? So in other words I'm stalking you?LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:LongestRoad said:
said every liberal ever.PJ_Soul said:
I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?
Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff?Again??
Seriously?
You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.
In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true.
I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??Hmmnnn....Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.There's always the trusty polygraph test like I once offered a manager to take along with me. She declined.
Yah. No. I've been a consistent poster in this thread and have earned the right to comment on something stupid from a 'lurker' if I see it."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
This is like asking if people are happy the guy with the crowbar has stopped pummelling the feeble old man with it.LongestRoad said:Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that."My brain's a good brain!"0
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